GerateWohl 3,701 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 I think, it is quite appropriate or even more interesting than the "Wiener Opernball" as an event. A Korngold fanfare would probably be wasted here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 539 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Maybe Williams told the VPO that they need a better composer than him for the fanfare? BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,964 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 23 minutes ago, Steve said: Maybe Williams told the VPO that they need a better composer than him for the fanfare? And he continued: "A fanfare can be many things, but one thing it is definitely not: a commission you can say no to." MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 7,520 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Nice, but kind of uninteresting. I wonder what Korngold would have written. I think it's quite lovely, and prominent horn parts are certainly fitting for those glorious Wiener horns. Interesting though that Strauss, who more than once enjoyed writing (stereo)typical Viennese waltzes (cf Der Rosenkavalier) decided to not do so in this instance. I wonder if Williams's new piece makes any allusions to Viennese music. But yes, your average Williams celebratory fanfare has more substance overall. Btw, they misspellt "Strauss" in the video's title caption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,645 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 Agreed, a bit harsh to call it uninteresting. I can’t see the spelling error you’re referring to, it all seems correct to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 7,520 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 51 minutes ago, rough cut said: I can’t see the spelling error you’re referring to, it all seems correct to me? He's credited as Richard Strauß, with a "scharfes S" (sz ligature) as the last letter. The Viennese Strauß dynasty, famous for their waltzes, were named Strauß, but Richard Strauss is spelt with a double s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,645 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 👍🏼 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,123 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 On 05/01/2023 at 3:39 PM, rough cut said: Agreed, a bit harsh to call it uninteresting. I can’t see the spelling error you’re referring to, it all seems correct to me? Well, I did say it was nice, and just kinda uninteresting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,544 Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 The Strauss piece is EXACTLY the type of style I want Williams to go for . Glorious and bombastic to the max. I bet Williams won't stray to far from the tone of the original and he could top it easily. Anyways i'm less worried he'll go for something more atonal like A Toast of Just down the Street something BB-8 and MSM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,964 Posted January 6 Share Posted January 6 I wonder whether he actually studied the Strauss fanfare or just heard of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,964 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Btw, any JWFan actually going to the ball? Source: Google picture search _________________________________________________________________________________ viennaphilharmonic Verifiziert Preparations are in full swing for the 80th Vienna Philharmonic Ball! ✨💃🕺 We are excited that Maestro @andrisnelsons will conduct this year’s opening ceremony. This year also marks the world premiere of the “Fanfare for the Vienna Philharmonic Ball” by John Williams. Conductor and Composer John Williams composed this Fanfare for the 80th Vienna Philharmonic Ball 2020. We will perform the Fanfare after the traditional Richard Strauss Fanfare for the very first time. 🎶 We are immensely grateful to John Williams for this extraordinary gift. 🙏 Further info about the Vienna Philharmonic Ball via the link in our bio. Wiener Philharmoniker (@viennaphilharmonic) • Instagram-Fotos und -Videos MSM and Tom 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,179 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 I love when Williams titles pieces so matter of factly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 116 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Very exciting indeed🎉 From the program booklet: BrotherSound and BB-8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,179 Posted January 17 Share Posted January 17 Crazy that a guy in 2022 overlaps so considerably with a guy born in 1864. thx99 and BB-8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,964 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 So it'll be conducted by Anton Mittermayr and not Nelsons!? It seems that the premier of Richard Strauss' VPO Ball Fanfare (on March the Force, 1924) was done without conductor. EDIT: Anton Mittermayr is a timp player of the VPO. He played in JW's return concerts in March 2022. https://muk.ac.at/studienangebot/lehrende/details/anton-mittermayr.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,645 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 The fanfare premieres today! I hope a recording makes it out of the ball! BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,964 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 @JayAccording to the program provided by @MSM VPO's Anton Mittermayr will be conducting members (Mitglieder) of the VPO for the premier of the fanfare. Nelsons and the full orchestra seem to be coming in later for one piece by Suppé. MSM and Ricard 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,123 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Perhaps JW received more cookies from Anne-Sophie than Andris? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,964 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 8 hours ago, rough cut said: The fanfare premieres today! I hope a recording makes it out of the ball! Need to monitor this space to see if it is live streamed (it currently still contains the 2020 recording). 80. Ball der Wiener Philharmoniker - Wiener Philharmoniker https://www.wienerphilharmoniker.at/de/ball-der-wiener-philharmoniker/2023 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,964 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Perhaps JW received more cookies from Anne-Sophie than Andris? And Andris ate them all by himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,123 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 6 minutes ago, BB-8 said: And Andris ate them all by himself? Then they had a falling out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 35,281 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 4 hours ago, BB-8 said: @JayAccording to the program provided by @MSM VPO's Anton Mittermayr will be conducting members (Mitglieder) of the VPO for the premier of the fanfare. Nelsons and the full orchestra seem to be coming in later for one piece by Suppé. Ok. Why am I tagged for this info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,123 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 This is important. You need to know. bollemanneke and BB-8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 35,281 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I just realized it's because of the main page @Ricard BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 116 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 19/1/2023 at 9:24 AM, BB-8 said: @JayAccording to the program provided by @MSM VPO's Anton Mittermayr will be conducting members (Mitglieder) of the VPO for the premier of the fanfare. Nelsons and the full orchestra seem to be coming in later for one piece by Suppé. Yes the fanfares will sound during the opening ceremony when the VIPs enter. After the debutants entered, there is one piece performed by the VPO & Nelsons. I also hope the two Vienna concerts and the commissioned Fanfare will be credit enough to make JW “Ehrenmitglied” (honorary member), like Strauss, that would be just amazing🙏🏼!! BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BB-8 2,964 Posted January 19 Popular Post Share Posted January 19 Stories • Instagram crlbrg, crumbs, Muad'Dib and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 7,520 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 On 17/01/2023 at 10:55 AM, BB-8 said: Btw, any JWFan actually going to the ball? Not even a JW world premiere is enough to get me to attend this thing. I've always been deeply suspicious of the whole ball culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,123 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Really? You're opposed to dancing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,964 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 7 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Not even a JW world premiere is enough to get me to attend this thing. I've always been deeply suspicious of the whole ball culture. And it seems that this year, "this thing" is particularly exclusive..or is there a live-stream somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 989 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 It premiers tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,964 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 1 minute ago, Gibster said: It premiers tonight? It should be over by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 7,520 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 39 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Really? You're opposed to dancing? At least to my own dancing. And to all these remnants of aristocratic superiority culture. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,123 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Then you should join the dance as a middle class worker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,179 Posted January 19 Popular Post Share Posted January 19 39 minutes ago, BB-8 said: It should be over by now. I thought it was alright. I could have done without Tony Dorsett talking over the whole thing. BB-8, Tydirium, crumbs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 989 Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I assume we'll have footage of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,544 Posted January 19 Popular Post Share Posted January 19 34 minutes ago, Gibster said: I assume we'll have footage of it? Jay, Will and Once 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,266 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 7 hours ago, BB-8 said: Stories • Instagram Why does the date say Jan 21 if it premiered today?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 989 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 minute ago, Bayesian said: Why does the date say Jan 21 if it premiered today?? It also says 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,266 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 4 minutes ago, Gibster said: It also says 2021 Oh right, good catch. I got so tripped up by the first 21, I must have overlooked the second one. OK, so now we can double down on the question, what's with the date?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,107 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 45 minutes ago, Bayesian said: OK, so now we can double down on the question, what's with the date?? The 80th edition of the ball was supposed to take place on that date, but it didn't happen. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matthias 267 Posted January 20 Popular Post Share Posted January 20 Here's a little snippet from the rehearsal that was included in Austrian TV news. https://clipchamp.com/watch/vkhmvU3xUHk Maybe we'll get something more complete from the ball itself tomorrow. A recording would be nice, though. (maybe in conjunction with his entire 2nd Vienna concert?) Bayesian, Once, Will and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,964 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Wait a sec, I see Mittermayr on timps and some other arms moving air. EDIT: Just a look-alike. There are two bald heads showing here. Screenshot from VPO's Instagram BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,544 Posted January 20 Popular Post Share Posted January 20 Holy shit, that little bit sounded really cool . Sounds like I predicted . Will, eitam, BB-8 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joni Wiljami 1,203 Posted January 20 Popular Post Share Posted January 20 Now we almost have it! Will, michael_grig, Martinland and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,964 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Joni Wiljami said: Now we almost have it! Amazing - already framed! 7 hours ago, Ricard said: The 80th edition of the ball was supposed to take place on that date, but it didn't happen. [Thanks to "that thing" named COVID-19] .________________________________________________________________________ Wiener Philharmoniker (@viennaphilharmonic) • Instagram-Fotos und -Videos MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthias 267 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 What we can see in the video on the far left of the formation is that JW included a Wagner Tuba and an Althorn (tenor horn) in the score, a nice touch. Otherwise it probably follows the already lavish instrumentation of the Richard Strauss fanfare. 2 timpani 2 (normal) tubas 6 trumpets 6 trombones 6 horns + Wagner tuba + Althorn (8 horns in the RS piece) Edit: It's a bit difficult to tell exactly which instruments they are, since there's a lot in that horn family that look similar. One's definitely smaller than the other, though. MrJosh and BB-8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 2,964 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 At least here's the lavish Strauss fanfare, confirming that Nelsons was part of the parade. https://youtu.be/PlUsDPeiGlM?t=184 7 hours ago, Matthias said: Here's a little snippet from the rehearsal that was included in Austrian TV news. https://clipchamp.com/watch/vkhmvU3xUHk Maybe we'll get something more complete from the ball itself tomorrow. A recording would be nice, though. (maybe in conjunction with his entire 2nd Vienna concert?) Note the red light provided by Emil Berliner Studios in the photo of JW taken March 2022! Matthias 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matthias 267 Posted January 20 Popular Post Share Posted January 20 Another (tiny) snippet, from Instagram 320143238_586137943337670_717687597222034185_n.mp4 King Mark, Muad'Dib, BB-8 and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alawill75 37 Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Sounds great! BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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