King Mark 3,559 Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 This is bad . It's already been a few days no official video and not even a complete cell phone recording Anyone know how long the full piece is? BrotherSound and crlbrg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,187 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Yeah, its frustrating. I think this was recorded by Willliams and DG will release it, but that may be weeks/months (and, of course, I could be wrong). Plus, now that it has been officially premiered, Williams may program it in to other concerts--maybe even San Fran. Having a piece called "Fanfare for the Vienna Philharmonic Ball" on the program is a virtual mic drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,559 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Really, I have a feeling he'll never perform this piece outside of it's intended purpose (Vienna Ball), and the Vienna philharmonic have no reason to play it outside of their annual ball. That's why I'm not too optimistic about an official release. And this is not some mid piece like A Toast or whatever . After listening to the clips over and over , I really think this could be his best celebratory fanfare ever and could even work as a Star Wars track. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,187 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Yes, the clips portray a very disciplined, stately piece, yet with an abundance of all of the unique Williams's trademarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthias 267 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, King Mark said: Really, I have a feeling he'll never perform this piece outside of it's intended purpose (Vienna Ball), and the Vienna philharmonic have no reason to play it outside of their annual ball. That's why I'm not too optimistic about an official release. Don't forget that the VPO is a proud (vain) orchestra and they'd probably like to show off the fanfare they commissioned from a famous composer at some point. Also, there are many VPO chamber ensembles, including brass ones, who record CDs as well. So that's another possibility for a release. 13 hours ago, Pawel P. said: I think that aside from the possibility that Williams recorded it last March, there's a good chance the Vienna Philharmonic will play this Fanfare at their annual Summer Night Concert at Schönbrunn Palace. The next one will be on June 8. It's broadcast around the world, as is New Year's Concert at Musikverein, and released very quickly in CD, DVD and Blu-ray formats. https://www.sommernachtskonzert.at/index_en.html Vienna Philharmonic played Williams at Summer Night Concert a few times in previous years. Three years ago they performed the suite from Dr. Zhivago by Maurice Jarre. They featured the Strauss fanfare in the 2015 edition of the Summer Night concert, so this is indeed a possibility. MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,017 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Perhaps VPO were just too busy touring Hamburg and Cologne over the weekend and need to catch-up on PR re the ball when they're back home. Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,017 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 A tiny snippet on ORF starting 19:55: Das war der Philharmoniker-Ball - Wien heute vom 20.01.2023 um 19:00 Uhr – ORF-TVthek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthias 267 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 hours ago, BB-8 said: A tiny snippet on ORF starting 19:55: Das war der Philharmoniker-Ball - Wien heute vom 20.01.2023 um 19:00 Uhr – ORF-TVthek If anyone gets geoblocked, I clipped the more relevant parts in a previous post. 😉 On 20/01/2023 at 8:12 PM, Matthias said: Unfortunately only a tiny snippet again on Austrian news... I guess we'll have to wait until the VPO decides to release it in some fashion. 1144007843_WienHeute-Philh.BallMitClipchamperstellt.mp4 BB-8 and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,187 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 On 21/01/2023 at 4:57 PM, King Mark said: Anyone know how long the full piece is? The sheet music indicates an extension, which is fairly typical in pieces of this sort. They can keep repeating to accommodate the event. If a full recording of the Ball performance is ever released, it will likely be longer than a purely concert version of the piece, if that makes sense. But, to answer your question, I have no idea. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,559 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Another question. Is it for Brass only of full orchestra? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,187 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I was wondering that myself. I was surprised that it was just brass/percussion. The Vienna brass sounds so full and delightful, but I am not sure most brass bands could pull it off. Maybe it is just the number of instruments, but I was listening to the JW Denver Brass album, which is excellent, but it is thin in comparison to this. I wonder if he bothers releasing a Signature edition if it will not be for full orchestra. I think the latter approach would be better for the typical concert performance. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,017 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I am prepared to wait for an official release recorded without the distraction of the ball. michael_grig and Tydirium 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,172 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 How wonderful for the buyer's vanity that would be. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,559 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Just wanted to bump this thread to say I'm soooooo disappointed no decent recordings of the complete piece have surfaced on you tube and the odds of an official recording being released seem pretty slim BB-8 and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,187 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Yeah, it seems increasingly unlikely that Williams recorded it last March. Let's hope he programs it into some of the upcoming concerts. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,017 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 10 hours ago, Tom said: Yeah, it seems increasingly unlikely that Williams recorded it last March. Let's hope he programs it into some of the upcoming concerts. It's beginning to feel like a missed opportunity, especially in times of "digital singles". It wouldn't make sense to perform and record the new fanfare without members of the VPO and outside of the Viennese context. Let's hope DG (or whoever) are saving some gun powder for months/years to come. Compilations of singles with bonus tracks would be an appealing format and worth waiting for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,559 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I'd trade a recording of this for the entire Fableman's OST igger6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,178 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Incredible: The Vienna Phil posted 15 minutes of ball footage, NONE of which (as far as I can tell) -- not even a second -- is from Williams' fanfare. https://www.wienerphilharmoniker.at/en/vienna-philharmonic-ball/2023 It's like they're teasing us at this point! BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jurassic Shark 11,177 Posted February 12 Popular Post Share Posted February 12 Probably due to copyright. Will, bollemanneke and WilliamsStarShip2282 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,559 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 This is... Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 824 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 15 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Probably due to copyright. But they own the piece of music?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,177 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 They're too cheap to pay royalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,017 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Are we in for a proper release? On 12/02/2023 at 8:13 AM, Will said: Incredible: The Vienna Phil posted 15 minutes of ball footage, NONE of which (as far as I can tell) -- not even a second -- is from Williams' fanfare. https://www.wienerphilharmoniker.at/en/vienna-philharmonic-ball/2023 It's like they're teasing us at this point! They even scrapped the R. Strauss. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,653 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 At least the latest (3 hrs ago) Instagram post from the Vienna Philharmonic account is about Williams. Too bad it’s about Raiders and not the fanfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,177 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Perhaps the VPO didn't like the fanfare and is pretending it never happened? No fanfare to see here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,653 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 The whole thing was a no fun fare. Jurassic Shark and BB-8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,177 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Here it is! BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,017 Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 Maybe the fanfares by Strauss and Williams are so powerful that the whole do would seem even more ridiculous and superfluous than it already is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,187 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Firstly, no I am not bumping this thread because the piece has been released. Secondly, has this picture been posted? michael_grig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,017 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 20/01/2023 at 8:19 AM, BB-8 said: Amazing - already framed! [Thanks to "that thing" named COVID-19] .________________________________________________________________________ Wiener Philharmoniker (@viennaphilharmonic) • Instagram-Fotos und -Videos Yep, picture previously posted. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,187 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 I guess I could have looked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bollemanneke 3,172 Posted February 25 Popular Post Share Posted February 25 You could indeed have done more. Tom, Jurassic Shark and WilliamsStarShip2282 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinland 320 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 14 hours ago, bollemanneke said: You could indeed have done more. He could have looked more. WilliamsStarShip2282 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bayesian 1,276 Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 Did this forum not, like, constitutionally abolish that joke or something? It is, without exaggeration, the most played-out, dead and desiccated husk of an attempt at humor this side of "they're all dead." (And to think they both came out from the same movie...) Not Mr. Big, Holko and Martinland 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,177 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 The film is a joke machine. Martinland and bollemanneke 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,187 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 23 minutes ago, Bayesian said: Did this forum not, like, constitutionally abolish that joke or something? It is, without exaggeration, the most played-out, dead and desiccated husk of an attempt at humor this side of "they're all dead." (And to think they both came out from the same movie...) I think we all agree that we need a better joke than this, but... Martinland and bollemanneke 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,276 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 6 minutes ago, Tom said: I think we all agree that we need a better joke than this, but... Turning that joke into some kind of meta-joke is also hereby abolished!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrJosh 824 Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 1 hour ago, Bayesian said: Turning that joke into some kind of meta-joke is also hereby abolished!! The 'they're all dead' joke is many things...it's humorous, has a great buildup to the punchline, produces a good chuckle...but one thing it is not, is a joke that ever gets old! Martinland, eitam, Jurassic Shark and 3 others 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,187 Posted February 27 Popular Post Share Posted February 27 I am pretty old-fashioned when writing my jokes. I don't use computers or electronics. I just have my paper and pencil. I am like a monk, but funnier. Andy, MrJosh, Martinland and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,696 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Tom said: I am pretty old-fashioned when writing my jokes. I don't use computers or electronics. I just have my paper and pencil. I am like a monk, but funnier. Some may even refer to you as “antediluvian”. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,017 Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 At any rate, it seems like we need a better fanfare. The one for the Vienna Philharmonic Ball has gone all dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,017 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 On 21/01/2023 at 3:55 PM, Pawel P. said: I think that aside from the possibility that Williams recorded it last March, there's a good chance the Vienna Philharmonic will play this Fanfare at their annual Summer Night Concert at Schönbrunn Palace. The next one will be on June 8. It's broadcast around the world, as is New Year's Concert at Musikverein, and released very quickly in CD, DVD and Blu-ray formats. https://www.sommernachtskonzert.at/index_en.html Vienna Philharmonic played Williams at Summer Night Concert a few times in previous years. Three years ago they performed the suite from Dr. Zhivago by Maurice Jarre. Looks like the next chance for the fanfare to be performed and recorded has come to nothing... Sommernachtskonzert Schönbrunn - Wiener Philharmoniker What a routine program...except for the Boulanger. Next opportunity: VPO produce a Special Annual CD 2023 with the JW 2022 concert material plus the fanfare. E.g. Special Annual Edition 2022/ Welser-Möst - Wiener Philharmoniker That would sell like warm Kaisersemmeln. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,187 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 I am hoping he performs it in NY next week, but he probably will not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,017 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 Never give up hope, but it wouldn't make much sense if the NYP played a work that was written for the VPO. Seems more likely you'll get Grit and Glory, The Fabelmans (with Spielberg presenting), or some Indy 5 teaser? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamsStarShip2282 290 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 20 hours ago, BB-8 said: Looks like the next chance for the fanfare to be performed and recorded has come to nothing... Sommernachtskonzert Schönbrunn - Wiener Philharmoniker What a routine program...except for the Boulanger. Next opportunity: VPO produce a Special Annual CD 2023 with the JW 2022 concert material plus the fanfare. E.g. Special Annual Edition 2022/ Welser-Möst - Wiener Philharmoniker That would sell like warm Kaisersemmeln. I find classical music has gotten incredibly dull and routine in the last ten years, and extreme like everything else. Its either the same stuff together thats all been played millions of times, or a program of completely unknown stuff, and usually its unknown because its not very good. I think the best chance of seeing the fanfare being played though is at Tanglewood, the Pops concerts have always been a wild card of pieces and in many cases over the years he whips out random stuff that hadnt been heard about in years. I miss the days when he did full concerts, you would see a lot of stuff on there including Sound the Bells or Song for World Piece, or he even did Hymn for New England a few times but he has re titled it for some reason, can't remember what the new name is. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,177 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 28 minutes ago, WilliamsStarShip2282 said: he even did Hymn for New England a few times but he has re titled it for some reason, can't remember what the new name is. Hymn to old England? WilliamsStarShip2282 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,017 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 Nope. New Music Commissions for the Coronation Service at Westminster Abbey | The Royal Family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,172 Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 On 18/04/2023 at 6:12 AM, WilliamsStarShip2282 said: I find classical music has gotten incredibly dull and routine in the last ten years, and extreme like everything else. Its either the same stuff together thats all been played millions of times, or a program of completely unknown stuff, and usually its unknown because its not very good. I think the best chance of seeing the fanfare being played though is at Tanglewood, the Pops concerts have always been a wild card of pieces and in many cases over the years he whips out random stuff that hadnt been heard about in years. I miss the days when he did full concerts, you would see a lot of stuff on there including Sound the Bells or Song for World Piece, or he even did Hymn for New England a few times but he has re titled it for some reason, can't remember what the new name is. "Of Grace and Majesty". I think the title was first used in 2016 at Tanglewood. WilliamsStarShip2282 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamsStarShip2282 290 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 On 20/04/2023 at 4:26 AM, Miguel Andrade said: "Of Grace and Majesty". I think the title was first used in 2016 at Tanglewood. yes, thank you! But I like the original title better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BB-8 3,017 Posted April 24 Popular Post Share Posted April 24 Next opportunity: Wonder whether there is a chance that newly founded "The Philharmonic Brass" have something new in the pipeline... Philharmonic Brass im Musikverein - Wien heute vom 19.04.2023 um 19:00 Uhr – ORF-TVthek The Philharmonic Brass MaxTheHouseelf, Tom and Martinland 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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