Another trailer question (L.A. Confidential)

[Morlock 11]

Now, before you go and say 'God, another idiot who can't find soundtrack.net'- I just need help narrowing down the options it gave me.

I just got the DVD of L.A. Confidential, which is one of my favorite movies. The extras aren't all that good- except of course for the iso track of Jerry's great underrated score. (Bloody Christmas is one of my top three favorite Jerry tracks)

I watched the Trailer, and heard a piece of music that I've heard before and liked, but I don't know what it is. I think it's the third pieces played in the trailer, after the Usual Suspects. It's a rising string piece, I think it's rather well known (or at least in a lot of trailers).

Naturally I checked soundtrack.net and found that it's one of these four- Ottman's Usual Suspects, D. Newman's Hoffa, JW's Sleepers or Serra's Goldeneye.

I recognized the Ottman piece (although they may both be from TUS), and I recognized the last piece as hoffa, and understand that Serra did a terrible job- so that means that it's probably Sleepers- a score which I know very little about. Also- it doesn't sound like Williams.

Could anyone tell me where the piece is from?

[Maestro 147]

On a tangent - has anyone else noticed a piece of the Prologue from "Hook" in the trailer for the new animated Sinbad movie? The movie looks dumb, but I was glad to hear a snippet from one of William's best scores in a theatre.

Maestro - who doesn't understand why people on this board don't love Empire of the Sun as much as he does.

[jamesluckard 80]

Do you mean the piece that starts when Russell Crowe asks Kim Basinger "Why was Susan Lefferts at the Night Owl?"

If so, it is indeed from GoldenEye. It's track 9, "Run, Shoot, and Jump."

I really think Serra's GoldenEye deserves a bit more respect than it gets. Yes, as a Bond score it's crap, no argument here. I remember one film review at the time saying the lack of the James Bond theme in the film created an almost Pavolvian feeling that something was missing, which I thought was clever and accurate. Pity they wouldn't meet John Barry's price for it.

However, judged purely as an action score I think it's quite strong, and the love theme is gorgeous. The first time it plays is in a lushly orchestrated version as Pierce Brosnan drives up to the Monte Carlo casino. It's a quintessential Bond moment, and knowing all Brosnan went through to get the role, and how he had recently lost his wife, who had believed so strongly in him, the scene and Serra's lovely theme had an added poignancy.

[scissorhands 16]

Maestro - who doesn't understand why people on this board don't love Empire of the Sun as much as he does.

My love for EOTS is immesurable. Best score ever.

s-hands, who wonders the same

and who can't see the connection between EOTS and the thread

[Morlock 11]

Thanx A lot!

It was indeed the Serra piece. Well, it shows I shoud do my own research and and not just take what ever soundtrack.net or filmtracks say.

Well, now that the reason for this threads creation is solved- I don't really geat EOTS. Although I think it deserves more credit than it gets, I generally do it tracks 1, 2, 3 and, if I feel like it, the grenadiers(SP) and Exulte Justi.

@Scissorhands: could you embelish a bit as to why it's your favorite?

[scissorhands 16]

All right.

a)It's not a long score. It has just the music the film needs: no more, no less.

b)In about 60 minutes John Williams developes MANY kind of textures. There is a big difference between the first and second half of the movie, and this is clearly reflected in the score. And, related to this:

c)Diversity, it's one of the most varied scores: from a lullaby (Suo Gan) to a choral piece (Exsultate Justi); quoting classical pieces (Chopin's Mazura) or traditional ones (British Grenadiers), with disturbing action tracks (The Streets of Shanghai,...), and one scherzo (Jim's New Life).

d)It has the best use of chorus in any score ever. And these chorus have a clear object: expressing Jim's emotional universe. Jim has a complex and great imagination, and you can hear the same in the music.

e)Jim appears in 95% of the shots of the movie. A character-based film. Like the score. And the best scores are the character-based ones (IMO).

f)The Main Theme is really beautiful, with an amazing evolution (the first time, it's played in the most soft way, to reflect Jim's dreams: the planes; and when he gets to touch one plane, feel it, the theme is played loud; next time, after his sudden and big change (from rejoicing to dispair), the theme is played again in a subtle way, Jim's dreams have changed; and this despair will end in the last and most magnificent rendition of the main theme, when he gets food (which, paradoxically, was thrown from a plane).

g)The score, in spite of fitting perfect the film, it's a wonderful listening experience. An emotional journey. You are not the same before and after hearing it.

These were some of the reasons. There are more, but i think they were enough.

[Elmo Lewis 6]

Scissorhands here must be the greatest, most passionate fan of the things he loves. He actually makes me like Empire of the Sun more with every post he writes.

[scissorhands 16]

Happy to see my posts have some effect.

passionate fan of the things he loves.

And I love so many things! Almost every Williams score, for example.

And Ender must be the most cohesive man: he always gives me good reasonings for his thoughts.