Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,398 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1: 4 2: 4 3: 5 JW and the VPO get the end fanfare just right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 I have to say I like the energy and the almost spotless playing of the Brossé performance! Bellosh and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,398 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: I have to say I like the energy and the almost spotless playing of the Brossé performance! Agreed, I was close to making that a 5. 1:56 is Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 I'll have to reconsider whether to purchase this album. 5 minutes ago, Bellosh said: 1:56 is Trump really should use that when entering the podium! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,398 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I'll have to reconsider whether to purchase this album. Trump really should use that when entering the podium! but it's the rebel fanfare, he doesn't deserve that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted August 18, 2020 Author Share Posted August 18, 2020 He's a rebel against all that's decent! Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 5, 5, 3 (2 if I'm in a bad mood). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 590 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Two studio recordings vs. one live recording. The live recording wins bit time. tmarps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Only seven have voted so far, and possibly all who gave the Vienna performance five stars attented the concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 590 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 By the way, what do you think about this performance? This was my favourite live performance before: The ending seems to be another arrangement. Listen to 5:20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 Apart from the unbearably shrill sound I'd say it's a good performance, although I'm not a fan of the conductor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,398 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I like how it uses the original A New Hope end titles 'ending fanfare', rather than the Return of the Jedi ending fanfare that is on most 'Main Title' recordings. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 590 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Apart from the unbearably shrill sound I'd say it's a good performance, although I'm not a fan of the conductor. Yes, that is the problem with older youtube videos. The bitrate is quite low. It was also released on DVD in better quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted August 19, 2020 Author Share Posted August 19, 2020 This ain't bad either. https://open.spotify.com/track/6ToOZfjbWWpnLrcJDPu1IL?si=Js53Tr3ZQbK9G6Cyja9n7A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 VPO FTW In Dirk's version the second clarinet is little bit too flat in bar 251. In Gavin's version the bass clarinet was out of balance in bar 443. I can't take it, my life is ruined. Fabulin and Matt S. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I rate them all as superfluous. Record something that didn't get recorded more than a thousand times already! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,626 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 I want the ANH "end credit opening" Star Wars theme in unreleased Lando Returns. Best orchestration ever of the main theme On 8/19/2020 at 4:10 AM, Bellosh said: I like how it uses the original A New Hope end titles 'ending fanfare', rather than the Return of the Jedi ending fanfare that is on most 'Main Title' recordings. yeah I hate that it's shortened in all subsequent SW End Credits and even re-recordings of the main title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biodome 714 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 1. LPO - 2/5 It's not a recording I listen to. Firstly, it sounds as if it was recorded in a smaller studio, and not a big hall. I miss that feeling of spaciousness. Secondly, it's way too fast. The orchestra is not taking the time to enjoy every note they're playing. Feels like they want to just get to the end ASAP and go home. 2. LSO - 4/5 No complaints here. Great spacial environment, great tempo, beautiful, emotional delivery. They haven't got the VPO horns, though. 3. VPO - 5/5 I've been listening to this one at least once a day for the past week. I like the slower tempo, which really allows the brass section to shine, and to really emphasize their power. I also think that Williams' ritenuti are better than Greenaway's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 So far, there's a strong correlation between attending the Vienna concerts and rating the Vienna recording highly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,398 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 I think this might be your answer: 3. John Williams and the VPO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 590 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 31 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: So far, there's a strong correlation between not attending the Vienna concerts and not rating the Vienna recording highly. Fixed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 Of course. That's because the rating is purely based on the album recording for those who didn't attend. Recordings is what this poll is about, not what you felt while sitting in the concert hall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I don't like how most concert recordings do a slow down before the first theme statement. I really want a recording that stays true to the films' tempo so I can replace it on TLJ so it can have its own fanfare. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Why is the VPO getting so many votes?! Where's objectivity when you need it? How CAN you vote for that inexcusable trumpet problem at the start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted August 27, 2020 Author Share Posted August 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Why is the VPO getting so many votes?! Where's objectivity when you need it? How CAN you vote for that inexcusable trumpet problem at the start? The five-stars are from people who attended the concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 So? You didn't ask to vote on the concert and it was at the concert that they messed it up. It's really sad to see so many people love everything as long as JW is conducting. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt S. 493 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Nothing is perfect. The VPO recording has one minor mistake, and it was quickly corrected. Otherwise it's an absolutely outstanding performance. 54 minutes ago, Drew said: I don't like how most concert recordings do a slow down before the first theme statement. I really want a recording that stays true to the films' tempo so I can replace it on TLJ so it can have its own fanfare. I agree! One of my favorite things about the original 1977 recording is how the fanfare steamrolls right into Luke's theme without any rallantando. Kunzel's recording on Star Tracks with the Cincinnati Pops comes close, but unfortunately that doesn't have a clean opening (the preceding synth piece by Frank Proto leads directly into it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Matt S. said: Nothing is perfect. The VPO recording has one minor mistake, and it was quickly corrected. Otherwise it's an absolutely outstanding performance. It also has plenty of issues with slow tempi and weird tempo changes. Steve and bollemanneke 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxTheHouseelf 324 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 12 hours ago, bollemanneke said: So? You didn't ask to vote on the concert and it was at the concert that they messed it up. It's really sad to see so many people love everything as long as JW is conducting. Lol. Greenaways recording has no energy, is poorly mixed and sounds pretty lame overall. The original prequel recording with the LSO is much better than that. Please provide a YT-link to the actual Brossé recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 21 minutes ago, MaxTheHouseelf said: Please provide a YT-link to the actual Brossé recording. This is the one we're talking about in this thread. 21 minutes ago, MaxTheHouseelf said: Greenaways recording has no energy At least it doesn't threaten to come to a halt like JW's Vienna recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Greenaway's recording is anything but poorly mixed and the performances are top-notch. Of course, the Episode 1 intro is still superior. As for Brossé… Oops, I voted for that one thinking of the RAH concert. Anyway, VPO still comes in last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 They're all the same song Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt S. 493 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 8 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Greenaway's recording is anything but poorly mixed and the performances are top-notch. Isn’t that the recording where the trumpeter plays a wrong note on the final chord? Instead of finishing on a tonic G he (or she) plays a third higher? That’s not in the score!!!! Wahh wahh wahh! 😭 😭 MaxTheHouseelf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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