Restored Isolated Score: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone

[Holko 9,499]

Well, the time has come for this.

I see no reason to try and comment on every track when @Incanus's excellent full analysis is done and available, I urge everyone interested to read it.

I used the LLL, JW's intentions, no source music, no recreating tracked music or microedits - therefore in many many many places (70% of the tracks in fact if I counted correctly) I had to adjust the footage to fit to the music by either splitting it and inserting black screens in places where there could be missing shots, or surprisingly often (namely in Introduction to Quidditch, Quidditch Match, Invisibility Cloak, The Dark Forest and The Face of Voldemort), I had to remove footage, sometimes intentionally somewhat jarringly to indicate it. I wasn't 100% a slave of following the movie's audio track - my thinking was if they trimmed multiple shots, they'd probably find a place where the music can be edited down to still sound continuous and musical instead of also just trimming everything that went with those trimmed bits and being left with a horrific mess - I used it for guidelines, bigger sync points, start points to preserve the spotting.

 

Trailer #1 - The first thing JW recorded for the score, this one's almost a minute shorter than the cue for it. There's an obvious edit at the end, I split the footage there.

 

 

1MA Logo - Syncs up well
1M1 The Prologue - Had to extend a shot of Dumbledore turning around to make the scoring of the lights going out consistent. Also had to loop and slow some shots for Dumbledore placing Harry down.

 

 

1M3 The Friendly Reptile - Had to slow two snake shots to cover a gap, but couldn't do anything about the other, the sync points are obvious and we're missing too much, it could be Harry reacting, something else in the zoo, it's not scored lively enough to be more Dudley antics.
1M4 Don't Burn My Letter - The cue is much longer than the film scene, the scoring for all the remaining shots are pretty clear. This leaves a big gap between the opening and the blocking the mail slot, I fit a shortened version of the deleted scene with the eggs here even if I think Petunia's hysterical state would make it fit better later.
1M5 Mail Delivery - This one is again a good 15 seconds shorter than the cue. The one place I could find to split it is when the letters start flooding in - there's a cut where the floor is already filled with them pretty quickly.
2M1 The Beach and The Arrival of Hagrid - Had to slow the establishing shot of the shack, and the ending is a mess.

 

 

2M2 You're a Wizard Harry - The film removes the part from opening the letter to the umbrella coming out, playing off the former with some tracking. Had to slow a shot and shorten one at the end to make it fit.
2M3 The Wizard's Pub - Thought it'd be fun to do this too, used the sessions take for the ending without the fade.

 

 

 

2M4 Diagon Alley (+ Reveal Insert) - An attempt to guess how the insert might've been intended to be used - its opening is in the same place as the LLL, but it overlaps the first few phrases of the alley music, ending up synced to picture well enough. The film of course tracks 3M5 Entry into the Great Hall in here. Had to shorten a shot in Gringotts, had to put a gap where Hagrid might be searching his pockets, and one with maybe a longer shot or another shot of the ride to the vaults, also had to slow down the shot of Harry's money to make it all fit.

 

 

2M5 Harry Gets His Wand - Simple and fitting.
3M1 Hagrid's Flashback - The movie chops out a good portion of the footage and only uses the cue from the start of the flashback. I tried to fit the dialogue to the mood and found some lines of script that fit in the gap.

 

 

3M2 Platform Nine and Three Quarters - There are some strange gaps again between very obvious sync points.

 

 

3M3 Escaping Frog - Fits nicely.

 

 

3M4 Arrival at Hogwarts - Funnily enough, this is the cue they single out in the documentaries where they wanted to cut down the footage but JW was just too good to cut down. Well I had to extend it and shuffle some shots around to fit well enough.

 

 

3M5 Entry into the Great Hall - Fits well.

 

 

3M6 House Selection - I had to slow a Hermione and later a Harry shot, and added a script line in one gap.
4M1 The Banquet - There's one gap probably for more eating, one puzzling long one with darkish music that comes in between two well-matched Nick shots, a gap between the reactions to his near-headlessness and him floating on, I had to slow the shot of the kids walking towards the Grand Staircase, and there's also something missing with the Fat Lady.
4M2 Lonely First Night - Completely unused (replaced by 9M2 Leaving Hogwarts) but fits nicely.

 

 

4M3 Mail Drop - I disregarded the film sync and except for a missing chunk of mail drops it fits well. Aside from the different sync and the chopped out bit, the film also speeds up the opening.

 

 

4M4 Mr. Longbottom Flies - A total mess of missing bits, necessary lengthenings and even shortenings.

 

 

4M5 The Moving Stairs - Had to shorten a shot and extend the next one.

 

 

4M6R It's Guarding Something - This is the best guess how this unused cue would fit.
4M7 Introduction to Quidditch - Had to remove a shot of Wood struggling and extend Harry's reaction to cover it up.

 

 

5M1 Hermione's Feather - Split the LLL track in two.
[Tracked] [Halloween] - Since my HP2 iso score recreates the additional tracked cues as well, I thought I'd do it here too, this is a combination of 3M4 Arrival at Hogwarts and 7M4 Running to McGonagall.
5M1X Troll in the Dungeon - Unused but fits.

 

 

5M2 Fighting the Troll - Easily the cue I had to spend the most time on. We have 3 minutes of footage for a 4 minute cue. The first break is simple, they probably showed it going through the hallway in full form instead of keeping the reveal for when Hermione sizes it up. Originally the troll was possibly slower, more lumbering, but then it's puzzling how energetically Williams scored it. Anyway, I had to do a ton of chopping, resyncing, looping/reversing and slowing down to get it to some coherent form.

 

 

 

5M3 Nimbus 2000 - Fits great.
5M4p1 Let The Games Begin - Had to remove the part with Harry and the other seeker looking at the Snitch and jumped right to it flying up in the sky.
5M4p2 The Scoring Begins
5M4p3 Slytherin Scores - For long and incredibly VFX-heavy sequences, it's very surprising that these both fit perfectly, it's only at their joining point that the picture starts going slightly out of sync so I shortened the shot of Wood falling.
5M4p4 Harry's Great Victory - Had to slow the shots of Harry standing up and reaching for the Snitch but otherwise this also fits perfectly.

 

 

6M1 Hagrid's Christmas Tree - Fits great.
6M1Aalt Cast a Christmas Spell
6M1A Christmas Music Box - Thought I'd recreate the film assembly of these too.

 

 

6M2 Christmas Morning - A good chunk of something is missing here between the two cues.
6M2A The Library Scene - I had to remove the part where Harry avoids Filch in the library to make everything fit. The film loops it and also tracks in material from 8M1 The Chess Board to make the Snape/Quirrell/Filch part more dramatic and less understated. I also had to shorten the shots of Harry entering the Mirror room, lengthen the shot of the Mirror's inscription, swap some shots around when Harry touches it, and remove a bit where he tries to wake Ron up.
6M3 Dumbledore's Advice - I grabbed some missing lines from the script to fill a hole even though I'm not sure they fit that part of the cue.
6M4alt Hedwig's Time Transition - Fits.
6M5R Hermione's Reading - Also fits.

 

 

6M6 The Norwegian Ridgeback - Simple, fits.

 

 

7M1 Filch's Fond Remembrance - Also fits simply but the film dials out the recorded-lead second half.

 

 

7M2 The Blue Forest - This was also difficult. Had to extend the first shots of walking in the forest, remove the conversation between Harry and Draco (servants' job, I think you're scared etc) and mock something up to cover it up. A bit is missing where Firenze chases Voldemort away, and also in his conversation with Harry about the Stone.

 

 

7M3 Three Note Loop - I still don't think this was composed as a proper film cue but I recreated its film edit anyway.
7M3A Hagrid Plays the Flute - And of course added this one while I'm at it, sessions take for the ending.

 

 

7M4 Running to McGonagall - Fits fine
[Tracked] [Neville Stiffens] - This was probably originally spotted (only possible cue to fit as 7M5), then not scored anyway, then scored anyway with tracked music, from 2M2 You're a Wizard Harry, 5M1X Troll in the Dungeon and 4M6R It's Guarding Something.
7M6 [Fluffy's Harp Lullaby] - Recreated the fim edit.
7M7 In the Vinesnakes - Fits.
7M8 The Flying Keys - Fits.
8M1 The Chess Board - Had to extend some shots to bring it back to sync.
8M2 The Game Begins - Same here, but a chunk of the battle is still missing.
8M3 Checkmate - Only had to shorten the shot of Harry walking down the stairs.

 

 

8M4 The Mirror Scene - I lengthened the silence between the first and second part of the cue. I had to do something around the shot moving around Quirrell's head - if I removed it, I would have been left with only a small gap, but also a cut from Harry to... Harry. So I shortened the shot and both Harry shots around it instead. There are some weird gaps in the dialogue, had to slow down shots to cover them. The fight with Quirrell also has gaps, I also tried to cover them.

 

 

8M5 Love, Harry - Fits

 

 

9M1 Gryffindor Wins
9M2 Leaving Hogwarts - Thankfully these two both fit perfectly.
9M3 End Credits, Pt. 1
9M4 End Credits, Pt. 2 - Thought I'd add them in their full form instead of recreating the film butchery. Adjusted the credits as usual, of course, to sync the switch between single names and scrolling to a pleasing spot in the music.

 

 

1MAalt Logo (+ 1M1 The Prologue) - Added the opening of Privet Drive to show how they'd sound combined. I prefer the final one.
2M4 Diagon Alley - Final take without the insert, taken from the session leak. After years of living with the LLL version, this sounds really really weird
6M4 Owl's Flight - Still the best guess on how to sync it up.
Hedwig's Theme [for Harp] - Thought I'd try it under Fluffy for fun.

 

 

Trailer #2 - This one fits in length, but the final trailer doesn't use it in full. The one edit I had to make was at the end, one of the repeating BAMs was removed, so I added in a shot of the castle at night for it.

 

 

I didn't try Television Commerical because it's a minute long, but all the Coke and other TV ads are 30 seconds, or Hogwarts Forever (vocal) because I don't think it's even a film cue written to picture.

[Holko 9,499]

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[Skelly 261]

2 hours ago, Holko said:

(yes I know not all of it syncs up greatly but it's a vastly different approach anyway, who knows how the scene was originally, and the end is funny)

 

I wonder if that cue was inspired by a different ending to the mirror scene where Harry asks what Dumbledore sees in the mirror, and he says a new pair of socks.
 

It's a shame that so much music was dialed out in the last scene you posted, because it shows Williams's knack for scoring dialogue. But by that point there'd already been so much music and I think they wanted to avoid underscoring muggle scenes. Plus it makes the Dursleys more comically evil than was maybe intended.

[ragoz350 450]

5 hours ago, Holko said:

My best guess is when JW scored it it was a bigger montage with 4-5 scenes that was cut down to just 3

Maybe the situation is similar here as with The Stone (Three Note Loop) - JW simply copypasted his teaser music, and the sound editors themselves decided how to edit it. He might just not have enough time...

[Holko 9,499]

28 minutes ago, ragoz350 said:

Maybe the situation is similar here as with The Stone (Three Note Loop) - JW simply copypasted his teaser music, and the sound editors themselves decided how to edit it. He might just not have enough time...

Most of the cue has little to do with the Teaser, though.

[Remco 685]

3 hours ago, ragoz350 said:

Maybe the situation is similar here as with The Stone (Three Note Loop) - JW simply copypasted his teaser music, and the sound editors themselves decided how to edit it. He might just not have enough time...

 Totally off-topic, but you have an awesome signature.

 

On-topic: Thanks for your work, @Holko🤩

[Holko 9,499]

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[Holko 9,499]

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[ragoz350 450]

Ohhhh, I seem to have exceeded the free quota on MEGA (although this is the first time in my life I watch video on MEGA). I'll have to download it all...

UPD: Sorry, I thought the quota only applies to videos, not all files

UPD2: This turned out to be free limit 4GB/6hrs. Be careful.

[Skelly 261]

 

6 hours ago, Holko said:

Well... my best guess here is there was originally another couple Hogwarts establishing shots which were deemed unnecessary, and the cue went out with them.

 

I'm not sure about that since this movie doesn't use establishing shots very often just to pass time (there are two, maybe three instances; the sequel has plenty though). Usually it's the way it's cut now where even if the shot starts static, the action rolls in quickly. This was my approximation. But I'm a little doubtful that I got it right since the flutes obviously collide with Hermione.

 

[Holko 9,499]

12 hours ago, ragoz350 said:

Ohhhh, I seem to have exceeded the free quota on MEGA (although this is the first time in my life I watch video on MEGA). I'll have to download it all...

UPD: Sorry, I thought the quota only applies to videos, not all files

UPD2: This turned out to be free limit 4GB/6hrs. Be careful.

Damn, I forgot about the limit. I've switched to 720p after seeing the first two batches were already over 3GB, may rerender those too to bring it down.

[Holko 9,499]

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[Holko 9,499]

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[Skelly 261]

4 hours ago, Holko said:

Now this is strange: a lot of it is the expected microedits (even if I have no clue what all could've gone in many of the empty places) but I had to make a significant cut between the face reveal and the fire, both being obvious sync points - I guess he monologued less originally?

 

The 180-degree turn at 2:02 was evidently added in later, since Wannberg or whoever looped music specifically for the duration of that shot. I guess Williams scored a cut where Voldemort didn't explain the unicorn blood.

[Holko 9,499]

1 hour ago, Skelly said:

 

The 180-degree turn at 2:02 was evidently added in later, since Wannberg or whoever looped music specifically for the duration of that shot. I guess Williams scored a cut where Voldemort didn't explain the unicorn blood.

 

Ah! It was a significant/good enough shot that I never even thought it'd have been taken out at one time or only shot later. Looking at fixing it now.

 

EDIT: simply removing the 180 shot does fix the timing but leaves us with a jumpcut from a Harry reaction shot to a Harry reaction shot. Probably originally there was another Voldy mirror shot they cut away to, then when the additional 180 shot was added they chose to extend the Harry shot instead of cutting from Voldy in the mirror to the 180 from Quirrell to Voldy. Showing him only in the mirror is kinda cool but maybe they thought it'd be harder for kids to grasp that he is actually on Quirrel's head and there was some additional exposition they could elaborate on, hence the new 180 shot. I guess for now I'll leave my video as is and here's the explanation for anyone to read too.

[Jay 37,322]

Woah, this is awesome!  I can't wait to check it out!

[Holko 9,499]

Be advised, it's still 7 or so GB and you can only access 4 at a time with a free MEGA account so plan to watch them in 2 sessions. Or 5!

[crumbs 14,305]

29 minutes ago, Holko said:

Be advised, it's still 7 or so GB and you can only access 4 at a time with a free MEGA account so plan to watch them in 2 sessions. Or 5!

 

Not a problem with a VPN

 

Great videos though @Holko, very nicely done.

[Holko 9,499]

Would this be a Holko post without a full assessment with percentages?

 

Spoiler

1mA Logo - intact

1m1 The Prologue - microedited

1m3 Friendly Reptile - microedited

1m4 Don't Burn My Letter - microedited

1m5 Mail Delivery - microedited

2m1 The Beach and the Arrival of Hagrid - partially dialed out, microedited

2m2 You're a Wizard, Harry - partially dialed out, partially tracked over

2m4 Diagon Alley - partially tracked over

2m5 Harry Gets His Wand - intact

3m1 Hagrid's Flashback - partially dialed out

3m2 Platform 9 3/4 - microedited

3m3 Escaping Frog - microedited

3m4 Arrival at Hogwarts - microedited, partially looped

3m5 Entry Into the Great Hall - microedited

3m6 House Selection - microedited

4m1 The Banquet - microedited

4m2 Lonely First Night - wholly tracked over

4m3 Mail Drop - microedited, out of sync

4m4 Mr. Longbottom Flies - microedited, partially dialed out, partially looped

4m5 The Moving Stairs - microedited, out of sync

4m6 It's Guarding Something - wholly dialed out, reused later as tracking

4m7 Introduction to Quidditch - partially looped

5m1 Hermione's Feather - intact

5m1X Troll in the Dungeon - wholly dialed out, partially reused as tracking

5m2 Fighting the Troll - microedited

5m3 Nimbus 2000 - intact

5m4pt1 Let the Games Begin - partially looped

5m4pt2 The Scoring Begins - intact

5m4pt3 Slytherin Scores - partially looped

5m4pt4 Harry's Great Victory - microedited

6m1 Hagrid's Christmas Tree - intact

6m2 Christmas Morning - microedited

6m2A The Library Scene - microedited, partially tracked over, looped

6m3 Dumbledore's Advice - partially dialed out

6m4alt Hedwig's Time Transition - intact

6m5R Hermione's Reading - intact

6m6 The Norwegian Ridgeback - intact

7m1 Filch's Fond Remembrance - partially dialed out

7m2 The Blue Forest - partially looped, microedited, partially dialed out

7m3 Three Note Loop - only partially used

7m4 Running to McGonagall - intact

7m7 In the Vinesnakes - partially dialed out

7m8 The Flying Keys - intact

8m1 The Chess Board - microedited

8m2 The Game Begins - microedited

8m3 Checkmate - microedited

8m4 The Mirror Scene - microedited

8m5 Love, Harry - intact

9m1 Gryffindor Wins - intact

9m2 Leaving Hogwarts - intact

So: 50 cues in the "score proper", 14 of those intact in the movie as intended, that's 28% of the cues unaltered. wow.

[Jay 37,322]

3 hours ago, Holko said:

Be advised, it's still 7 or so GB and you can only access 4 at a time with a free MEGA account so plan to watch them in 2 sessions. Or 5!

 

AFAIK you can just make unlimited free google drive accounts and host that way with no issues.  That's what these guys did to great effect

 

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[ragoz350 450]

I just now realized that the Hogwarts leitmotive was supposed to be present in 5 scenes, but was cut out in three of them. Maybe Columbus wanted this theme to be associated specifically with Gryffindor... He only left it in "House Selection/Banquet" and Quidditch scenes. And in "Lonely First Night", the music may have been tracked over just to "remove" the Hogwarts theme...

[Jay 37,322]

Yea I always thought of it as a Gryffindor theme, based on how it was used in the final film.  It was interesting to get the whole score and realize JW never thought of it that way

[Holko 9,499]

Yeah he definitely intended it as a more general Hogwarts theme. In CoS he uses Hedwig in more warm and calm ways in places, wonder if he would've just kept HF going had it not been half-rejected by the time the first movie got finished.

[JohnnyD 1,221]

This is great. I always love an opportunity to see films the Maestro has done the music to with nothing but the music.

[JohnnyD 1,221]

I love that you take the time to showcase the films with just the music; very well done!

[Holko 9,499]

In the process of moving all my iso score videos from throwaway accounts to my main Drive, I already redid Black Sunday and Presumed Innocent, but those were 1:1 recreations with a better video source, I just matched the cuts and ended up with the same videos. Here I just wasn't satisfied with things I originally did, the way I split the video, synced up parts, etc, so I just redid the whole thing from scratch, and added new things while I was at it. And it was incredibly fun!

[ragoz350 450]

Wow, what an update, now even with trailers!

By the way, I've wanted to point out a little detail for a long time, but had forgotten: in the sheet score of the 6M2A The Library Scene cue, there's no sustain note at the end. Apparently, JW wanted to take a abrupt pause (when Harry and Ron stop), and start the next cue ~20 seconds later. Perhaps that's why there's a pretty short distance between these cues.

Spoiler

The end of 6M2A The Library Scene cue:

 

[TheUlyssesian 2,473]

On 21/08/2020 at 7:34 AM, Holko said:

 

3M4 Arrival at Hogwarts - Funnily enough, this is the cue they single out in the documentaries where they wanted to cut down the footage but JW was just too good to cut down. Well I had to extend it and shuffle some shots around to fit well enough.

 

Which is the documentary where I can see where they say they couldn't cut down JW.

[Holko 9,499]

15 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said:

 

Which is the documentary where I can see where they say they couldn't cut down JW.

 

[Docteur Qui 1,544]

On 26/08/2020 at 4:58 AM, JohnnyD said:

This is great. I always love an opportunity to see films the Maestro has done the music to with nothing but the music.

 

This score in particular is such a theatrical experience. It's wall-to-wall music which is unheard of these days; operatic in scope and storytelling. You can listen to the complete score from start to finish without any pictures and know what's happening beat by beat and not miss a thing - something I do at least once a year. 

 

6 hours ago, Holko said:

 

 

Thanks for sharing! I think "Arrival at Hogwarts" is my favourite scored moment from any film. It's legitimately awe-inspiring, and gives me chills whenever I hear it.