Popular Post Bellosh 3,403 Posted September 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2020 Pretty soon I'm gonna want a C&C version of this thread, liner notes and all. Chewy, crumbs and Bayesian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Geez . People are so touchy. It's not that important in the larger scheme of things. Just now, Bellosh said: Pretty soon I'm gonna walk a C&C version with this thread, liner notes and all. Just stick to the OT. 8 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: C'mon, that was funny! I try. 34 minutes ago, mxsch said: Prequel scores can beat the shit out from very big amount of scores. Because how they are intense in orchestrations and e.t.c. You really a fool. Check Chase through the Coruscant and shut the fuck up, boomer, this is the best action cue ever. YOU started this thread about THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY. This is what we are discussing Btw why do care what I think ? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsch 115 Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 9 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: Geez . People are so touchy. It's not that important in the larger scheme of things. Just stick to the OT. I try. YOU started this thread about THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY. This is what we are discussing Btw why do care what I think ? Thread have no purpose now because I've already done what was intended. You can check it. btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Bellosh said: Pretty soon I'm gonna want a C&C version with this thread, liner notes and all. Written on the tombstone of a JW Fan: " But it's not complete" Hahaha!😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Bellosh said: With the 9 films done and the 'Skywalker Saga' complete(?)....there's simply no excuses anymore for some Disney execs to get with MM and finally do this. But I wouldn't put it past the Mouse®™ to milk the fucking shit out of these. It's not profitable to release these things. Repackaging is much easier and apparently more financially viable. The people who option these repackages and remasters don't give a flying fuck about them, as far as they're concerned, Star Wars fans will buy anything regardless of completeness. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Yeah, just like how they just reissued the old OST masters again instead of rebuilding them from new scans they could use for complete releases too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,053 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Actually, the newest OST releases weren't from the OST masters. The digital-only releases done by Sony in 2016 were of the OST masters, and they are of much better overall quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: Actually, the newest OST releases weren't from the OST masters. The digital-only releases done by Sony in 2016 were of the OST masters, and they are of much better overall quality. whoosh Chewy and mxsch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Only the people on this forum will know that distinction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 At this point, someone should just fund a complete re-recording of the OT scores by the LSO. They should have done that when the Special Editions came out. Trying to make the original recordings sound perfect keeps creating more problems. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Only when they halfass it once, really mess things up once then stop trying for 20+ years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,340 Posted September 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2020 Hey Bruce, if you're not interested in another release of Star Wars music, then don't post so over and over in a thread where people are just looking for information. Close the thread and read a different thread instead. Keep up your troll behavior - which we all know you are aware you are doing - and you get banned Read the room. The posts you are making on our forum are not welcome, by anyone. Falstaft, mxsch, Manakin Skywalker and 8 others 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 41 minutes ago, Drew said: At this point, someone should just fund a complete re-recording of the OT scores by the LSO. They should have done that when the Special Editions came out. Trying to make the original recordings sound perfect keeps creating more problems. I assure you it's very possible if they still have first-generation elements in decent condition, but there's only one person on earth I trust to get the job done properly (and we all know who that is). And with all the botched releases over the years, I'm sure the drive to "get it right, once and for all" would be potent for him. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,053 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 In Bozereau we trust! bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: In Bozereau we trust! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,340 Posted September 2, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 2, 2020 And everybody else, when will you learn to ignore trolls instead of feeding them? You exacerbate the issue by replying to his troll posts, egging him on, generating a back and forth discussion... where personal insults eventually come out. Ignore trolls, and they go away. Take their bait and start a discourse, and they will continue to come back. I learned this decades ago. Why do some many recent JWFanners not know this? Manakin Skywalker, mxsch, bruce marshall and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Drew said: .. Trying to make the original recordings sound perfect keeps creating more problems. I listen to the GERHARD ESB more than the RCA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsch 115 Posted September 2, 2020 Author Share Posted September 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jay said: And everybody else, when will you learn to ignore trolls instead of feeding them? You exacerbate the issue by replying to his troll posts, egging him on, generating a back and forth discussion... where personal insults eventually come out. Ignore trolls, and they go away. Take their bait and start a discourse, and they will continue to come back. I learned this decades ago. Why do some many recent JWFanners not know this? Oh, Great J! (Men In Black 2 reference intended). Ban him for forever, please. I have no idea why he spent 10 years there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,053 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: I listen to the GERHARD ESB more than the RCA! The Gerhardt recording is indeed great, but the complete TESB recording in one of those rare, very long scores that's of consistently sky high quality. We just want a sound quality that matches the quality of the music, and the recent re-release of the OST has shown it's likely possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: The Gerhardt recording is indeed great, but the complete TESB recording in one of those rare, very long scores that's consistently of sky high quality. We just want a sound quality that matches the quality of the music, and the recent re-release of the OST has shown it's likely possible. When you say " OST" are you referring to the LP program mastered from stereo LP masters? On CD or LP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,053 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: When you say " OST" are you referring to the LP program mastered from stereo LP masters? No, I'm referring to the recent CD release of the OST, which was mastered from something else than the old OST master. And much of it sounds magnificent, but it's got its own set of issues that's probably due to poor quality control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: No, I'm referring to the recent CD release of the OST, which was mastered from something else than the old OST master. And much of it sounds magnificent, but it's got its own set of issues that's probably due to poor quality control. I can't keep track of all the releases!😗 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,053 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 25 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: I can't keep track of all the releases!😗 Here it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,053 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: . You can say that. Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 37 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Here it is! Thanks. Looks like a good program ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,650 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Honestly, if for nothing else than the atrocious sound quality of the 2-CD ROTJ, I'm all in on SW expansions. I'm fine with the current SW and ESB, but if there's sound improvement or new music, I'll be there. Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,891 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 @bruce marshall I think the main thing you need to understand about us wanting a redo of the OT is not that we want more music necessarily; it's that we want the material in better quality that the botched masters we got in 1997. They went through the trouble of hiring Shawn Murphy to sift through the original tapes and remaster everything from scratch, and we should be able to hear those remasters. Otherwise why would they waste time and money going through all that stuff? bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsch 115 Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 Those 2018 remixes are really a mixed bag. Some edit points are horrible, The Asteroid Field sounds like a mess, but I'm still like it for multiple reasons, very dope choir and orchestra separation in DOTF, percussion in ROTS, ANH sounds very powerful, even ROTJ when original album used actual film mixes, but still. Clones are good too. I'm think that all concert versions better than originals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 My copy of RCA ESB came in hardcover booklet with etched cds and extensive liner notes!. And a slip case. Very classy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsch 115 Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 On 9/2/2020 at 9:23 AM, Holko said: Holko, can you add what I've done to your spreadsheet and repost it like our joint work? If yes, I'll need to do last revision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,516 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Those are Jay's spreadsheets, not mine. You can tell by the fact that the quotes all say "Jay" and by his name on the top of the sheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsch 115 Posted September 3, 2020 Author Share Posted September 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, Holko said: Those are Jay's spreadsheets, not mine. You can tell by the fact that the quotes all say "Jay" and by his name on the top of the sheets. Oh, I've forgot. 16 hours ago, Jay said: And everybody else, when will you learn to ignore trolls instead of feeding them? You exacerbate the issue by replying to his troll posts, egging him on, generating a back and forth discussion... where personal insults eventually come out. Ignore trolls, and they go away. Take their bait and start a discourse, and they will continue to come back. I learned this decades ago. Why do some many recent JWFanners not know this? Jay, check my suggestion about adding my ROTJ analysis to your work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Those google docs are about showing where to find what Williams wrote on the various CDs. It's not about detailing how the film's director's altered his music in the final cuts of the films Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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