Popular Post Jay 20197 Posted September 3, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2020 As a companion piece to John Williams Scores - By Film Studio, here's the exact same list of scores, except sorted by which music label would have to be involved to make an expansion happen Bold = has not been expanded in the modern erastrikethrough = has been expanded in the modern era Disney Hollywood Records 1995 Nixon 2000 The Patriot Disney Records 2015 Star Wars: The Force Awakens 2016 The BFG 2017 Star Wars: The Last Jedi 2019 Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker 6 out of 6 total DR scores are awaiting a definitive release Sony Music Entertainment CBS Records 1969 The Reivers 1990 Home Alone (La-La Land 2015) Arista Records 1977 Close Encounters of the Third Kind (La-La Land 2017) 1978 The Fury (La-La Land 2013) 1979 1941 (La-La Land 2011) 1992 Home Alone 2 (La-la Land 2012) RCA Records 1986 SpaceCamp (Intrada 2010 release - and 2014 re-issue - are not expanded) Epic Records 1991 Hook (La-La Land 2012 release is not complete) Sony Classical 1997 Rosewood (La-La Land 2013) 1998 Stepmom 1999 Angela's Ashes 2005 Memoirs Of A Geisha 2011 The Adventures of Tintin 2011 War Horse 2012 Lincoln 2013 The Book Thief 2017 The Post Mandalay Records 1997 Seven Years In Tibet 12 out of 18 total SME scores are awaiting a definitive release Universal Music Group 20th Century Fox Records 1966 How To Steal A Million (Intrada 2008) 1967 Valley of the Dolls 1973 Cinderella Liberty (Intrada 2008 release was not expanded) Capitol Records 1968 Heidi (2013 Quartet Records release was not expanded) 1970 Jane Eyre (2012 La-La Land release was not expanded United Artists Records 1971 Fiddler On The Roof (2001 30th Anniversary CD is not complete) MCA Records 1974 Earthquake (La-La Land 2019) 1975 The Eiger Sanction 1975 Jaws (Intrada 2015) 1978 Jaws 2 (Intrada 2015) 1979 Dracula (Varese 2018) 1982 E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (La-La Land 2017) 1984 The River (Intrada 2020) 1989 Born On The Fourth Of July 1989 Always (La-La Land 2021) 1992 Far And Away (La-La Land 2020) 1993 Jurassic Park (La-La Land 2016) 1993 Schindler's List (La-La Land 2018) 1997 The Lost World (La-La Land 2016) Casablanca Records 1982 Monsignor (Intrada 2019) A&M Records 1995 Sabrina Philips Records 1996 Sleepers Dreamworks Records 1997 Amistad 1998 Saving Private Ryan (La-La Land 2018) 2002 Minority Report (La-La Land 2019) 2002 Catch Me If You Can Decca Records 2004 The Terminal 2005 War of the Worlds (Intrada 2020) 2005 Munich 13 out of 29 total UMG scores are awaiting a definitive release Warner Music Group Colpix Records 1963 Diamond Head (FSM 2006 release was not expanded) Warner Bros Records 1966 Not With My Wife You Don't! (FSM 2006) 1974 The Towering Inferno (La-La Land 2019) 1978 Superman: The Movie (La-La Land 2019) 1987 The Witches Of Eastwick (Perseverance 2012 release is not expanded) 1987 Empire Of The Sun (La-La Land 2014) 1988 The Accidental Tourist (FSM 2008 release is not expanded) 1991 JFK 2001 A.I. Artificial Intelligence (La-La Land 2015) 2001 Harry Potter 1 and the Sorcerer's Stone (La-La Land 2018) 2002 Harry Potter 2 and the Chamber of Secrets (La-La Land 2018) 2004 Harry Potter 3 and the Prisoner of Azkaban (La-La Land 2018) 4 out of 12 total WMG scores are awaiting definitive releases Varèse Sarabande 1972 The Cowboys (Varese 2018) {There was no OST album, but Varese bought perpetuity album rights circa 1994} 1990 Stanley & Iris (Varese 2017) 1990 Presumed Innocent There is no music label (the film studio owns all the rights) 20th Century Studios (formerly 20th Century Fox, now owned by Disney, but licensing does not need Disney approval) 1962 Bachelor Flat (Intrada 2008) {there was no OST album} 1965 John Goldfarb, Please Come Home (FSM 2001) {there was no OST album} 1967 A Guide For The Married Man (FSM 2000) {there was no OST album} 1972 The Poseidon Adventure (La-La Land 2019) {there was no OST album} 1973 The Paper Chase (FSM 1998 released can be improved upon) {there was no OST album} 1974 Conrack (FSM 1998 released can be improved upon) {there was no OST album} Disney (Lucasfilm-owned scores, as old music contracts expire, only Disney Records issues music from these films now) 1977 Star Wars (1997 RCA release is not complete) {20th Century Fox Records, Arista, and RCA/BMG/Sony contracts were temporary} 1980 The Empire Strikes Back (1997 RCA release is not complete and has sound quality issues) {20th Century Fox Records, Arista, and RCA/BMG/Sony contracts were temporary} 1981 Raiders of the Lost Ark (2008 Concord release is not complete and has pitch issues) {CBS/Sony and Concord contracts were temporary} 1983 Return of the Jedi (1997 RCA release is not complete and has sound quality issues) {20th Century Fox Records, Arista, and RCA/BMG/Sony contracts were temporary} 1984 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (2008 Concord release is not complete and has pitch issues) {Polydor/UMG and Concord contracts were temporary} 1989 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (2008 Concord release is not complete) {Warner Bros Records and Concord contracts were temporary} 1999 The Phantom Menace (2000 Ultimate Edition is not complete and has many other problems) {Sony contract was temporary} 2002 Attack of the Clones {Sony contract was temporary} 2005 Revenge of the Sith {Sony contract was temporary} 2008 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull {Concord contract was temporary} MGM 1967 Fitzwilly (Music Box Records 2013) {United Artists Records contract was temporary} 1973 Tom Sawyer (Quartet 2015) {United Artists Records contract was temporary} 1973 The Man Who Loved Cat Dancing (FSM 2002) {there was no OST album} 1973 The Long Goodbye (Quartet 2012) {there was no OST album} 1976 The Missouri Breaks (Kritzerland 2013) {United Artists Records contract was temporary} Paramount 1960 I Passed For White {there was no OST album} 1977 Black Sunday (FSM 2010) {there was no OST album} Sony 1958 Daddy-O {there was no OST album} 1960 Because They're Young {there was no OST album} 1963 Gidget Goes To Rome {there was no OST album} 1972 Images (Prometheus 2007 release and 2021 Quartet release are not expanded) {there was no OST album} Warner Brothers 1965 None But The Brave (FSM 2009) {there was no OST album} 1966 Penelope (FSM 2004) {MGM Records contract was temporary} 1969 Goodbye, Mr. Chips (FSM 2006) {MGM Records contract was temporary} 1969 Daddy's Gone A-Hunting {there was no OST album} Universal 1961 The Secret Ways {there was no OST album} 1964 The Killers {there was no OST album} 1966 The Rare Breed {there was no OST album} 1966 The Plainsman {there was no OST album} 1970 Storia di una donna (Story of a Woman) {there was no OST album} 1972 The Screaming Woman {there was no OST album} 1972 Pete 'n' Tillie (Varese 2017) {there was no OST album} 1974 The Sugarland Express {there was no OST album} 1976 Family Plot (Varese 2010) {there was no OST album} 1976 Midway (Varese 2011) {there was no OST album} 1981 Heartbeeps (Varese 2001) {there was no OST album} 25 out of 42 scores with no connected music label are awaiting definitive releases If I made any mistakes, let me know! 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Popular Post Jay 20197 Posted September 3, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 3, 2020 As you can see, all Williams scores that had an OST album to begin with [barring the Varese trilogy] require a license from one of just FOUR major music labels that have absorbed up the almost 20 different smaller labels that put out various Williams OSTs over the years - Disney Records (the only one still owned by a conglomerate that also owns a film studio), Sony Music (still a part of overall Sony but has to approve expansion of titles they released separately from the film studio arm approval), Universal Music Enterprises (no relation to Universal Pictures), and Warner Music Group (no relation to Warner Brothers Pictures). To make any of these expansions happen, that music label has to be open for business (granting licenses, approving artwork, signing off on releases), and its associated film studio has to to the same (granting licenses, procuring elements from their vaults, signing off on releases) It's a tricky business and I'm glad I don't have to be the one to negotiate these things! bollemanneke, Smaug The Iron, Holko and 2 others 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Jay 20197 Posted September 4, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2020 I figured I'd whip up a quick chart of the remaining scores that haven't been expanded with a column for the film studio, record label, and potential specialty label (based on what combos they've released titles from in the past) sorted by music label Year Film Film Studio Music Label Potential Label 1967 Valley of the Dolls Disney Disney Intrada 1973 Cinderella Liberty Disney Disney Intrada 1977 Star Wars Disney Disney Disney Records 1980 Empire Strikes Back Disney Disney Disney Records 1981 Raiders of the Lost Ark Disney Disney Disney Records 1983 Return of the Jedi Disney Disney Disney Records 1984 Temple of Doom Disney Disney Disney Records 1989 Last Crusade Disney Disney Disney Records 1995 Nixon Disney Disney Intrada 1999 Phantom Menace Disney Disney Disney Records 2000 The Patriot Sony Disney Intrada 2002 Attack of the Clones Disney Disney Disney Records 2005 Revenge of the Sith Disney Disney Disney Records 2008 Crystal Skull Disney Disney Disney Records 1969 The Reivers Paramount Sony LLL, Intrada, Varese 1985 SpaceCamp Disney Sony Intrada 1991 Hook Sony Sony LLL, Intrada, Varese 1998 Stepmom Sony Sony LLL, Intrada, Varese 1999 Angela's Ashes Paramount Sony LLL, Intrada, Varese 2005 Memoirs of a Geisha Dreamworks Sony LLL, Intrada 2011 Adventures of Tintin Paramount Sony LLL, Intrada, Varese 2011 War Horse Dreamworks Sony LLL, Intrada 2012 Lincoln Dreamworks Sony LLL, Intrada 2013 Book Thief Disney Sony Intrada 2017 The Post Disney Sony Intrada 1997 Seven Years In Tibet Sony Sony LLL, Intrada, Varese 1971 Fiddler on the Roof MGM UME LLL, Intrada, Varese 1989 Born On The Fourth Of July Universal UME LLL, Intrada, Varese 1989 Always Universal UME LLL, Intrada, Varese 1995 Sabrina Paramount UME LLL, Intrada, Varese 1996 Sleepers WB UME LLL, Intrada, Varese 1997 Amistad Dreamworks UME LLL, Intrada 2002 Catch Me If You Can Dreamworks UME LLL, Intrada 2004 The Terminal Dreamworks UME LLL, Intrada 2005 War of the Worlds Dreamworks UME LLL, Intrada 2005 Munich Dreamworks UME LLL, Intrada 1963 Diamond Head Sony WMG LLL, Intrada, Varese 1987 The Witches Of Eastwick WB WMG LLL, Intrada, Varese 1988 The Accidental Tourist WB WMG LLL, Intrada, Varese 1991 JFK WB WMG LLL, Intrada, Varese 1990 Presumed Innocent WB Varese Varese sorted by film studio Year Film Film Studio Music Label Potential Label 1967 Valley of the Dolls Disney Disney Intrada 1973 Cinderella Liberty Disney Disney Intrada 1977 Star Wars Disney Disney Disney Records 1980 Empire Strikes Back Disney Disney Disney Records 1981 Raiders of the Lost Ark Disney Disney Disney Records 1983 Return of the Jedi Disney Disney Disney Records 1984 Temple of Doom Disney Disney Disney Records 1985 SpaceCamp Disney Sony Intrada 1989 Last Crusade Disney Disney Disney Records 1995 Nixon Disney Disney Intrada 1999 Phantom Menace Disney Disney Disney Records 2002 Attack of the Clones Disney Disney Disney Records 2005 Revenge of the Sith Disney Disney Disney Records 2008 Crystal Skull Disney Disney Disney Records 2013 Book Thief Disney Sony Intrada 2017 The Post Disney Sony Intrada 1997 Amistad Dreamworks UME LLL, Intrada 2002 Catch Me If You Can Dreamworks UME LLL, Intrada 2004 The Terminal Dreamworks UME LLL, Intrada 2005 Memoirs of a Geisha Dreamworks Sony LLL, Intrada 2005 War of the Worlds Dreamworks UME LLL, Intrada 2005 Munich Dreamworks UME LLL, Intrada 2011 War Horse Dreamworks Sony LLL, Intrada 2012 Lincoln Dreamworks Sony LLL, Intrada 1971 Fiddler on the Roof MGM UME LLL, Intrada, Varese 1969 The Reivers Paramount Sony LLL, Intrada, Varese 1995 Sabrina Paramount UME LLL, Intrada, Varese 1999 Angela's Ashes Paramount Sony LLL, Intrada, Varese 2011 Adventures of Tintin Paramount Sony LLL, Intrada, Varese 1963 Diamond Head Sony WMG LLL, Intrada, Varese 1991 Hook Sony Sony LLL, Intrada, Varese 1997 Seven Years In Tibet Sony Sony LLL, Intrada, Varese 1998 Stepmom Sony Sony LLL, Intrada, Varese 2000 The Patriot Sony Disney Intrada 1989 Born On The Fourth Of July Universal UME LLL, Intrada, Varese 1989 Always Universal UME LLL, Intrada, Varese 1987 The Witches Of Eastwick WB WMG LLL, Intrada, Varese 1988 The Accidental Tourist WB WMG LLL, Intrada, Varese 1990 Presumed Innocent WB Varese Varese 1991 JFK WB WMG LLL, Intrada, Varese 1996 Sleepers WB UME LLL, Intrada, Varese Bayesian, Smaug The Iron and BrotherSound 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
crumbs 9334 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Damn, so LLL probably wouldn't get The Patriot due to the Disney factor. Well, fingers crossed Intrada still have a few releases to come this year, would be another missed anniversary otherwise. Edmilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 Pre-fee increase, unexpanded Williams scores with a -0 or -5 anniversary in 2020: The Eiger Sanction (45th anniversary, Universal / UME) SpaceCamp (35th anniversary, Disney / Sony) Presumed Innocent (30th anniversary, Warner Brothers / Varese) Sabrina (25th anniversary, Paramount / UME) Nixon (25th anniversary, Disney / Disney) The Patriot (20th anniversary, Sony / Disney) War of the Worlds (15th anniversary, Paramount / UME) Link to post Share on other sites
crumbs 9334 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 Well if MV's comment about trying to make an anniversary was related to a Williams release, and considering their strong ties with Universal, The Eiger Sanction seems like a shoe-in for October or Black Friday. Don't see much of an appetite for an expanded Sabrina or Presumed Innocent (not to mention the issues labels are now having with management at WB). Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 They're having issues with Warner Music Group, not Warner Brothers Pictures. There's no relation between the two entities Oops! I flip-flopped this, is is Warner Pictures that is the issue, not Warner Music. Apologies. ~ 2021 anniversaries: Fiddler on the Roof (50th anniversary, MGM / UME) JFK (30th anniversary, Warner Bros / WMG) Hook (30th anniversary, Sony / Sony) Sleepers (25th anniversary, Warner Bros / UME) Link to post Share on other sites
crumbs 9334 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 33 minutes ago, Jay said: They're having issues with Warner Music Group, not Warner Brothers Pictures. There's no relation between the two entities Thanks for clarifying. Still doubt there's an expansion for Presumed Innocent in the works though (don't have the faintest idea what's unreleased) but I guess Varese would be happy to expand any Williams scores they partially own. If Warner Music Group are being problematic, that puts HP4 and HP5 on ice as their OSTs belong to Warner Brothers Records (parent company is Warner Music Group). Ironically HP6/HP7/HP8 wouldn't be an issue as those OSTs belong to WaterTower music, which isn't a subsidiary of WMG (thus theoretically easier to license). So a Desplat box isn't out of the question, even if it means skipping the scores in between. Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 10:39 AM, crumbs said: If Warner Music Group are being problematic, that puts HP4 and HP5 on ice for the foreseeable future, as their OSTs belong to Warner Brothers Records whose parent company is Warner Music Group. Ironically HP6/HP7/HP8 wouldn't be an issue, as those OSTs belong to WaterTower music, which isn't a subsidiary of WMG (thus theoretically easier to license). Exactly right! Also, I don't think any issues they are having are permanent, just temporary. Sony Music briefly cut off licensing, but MV has said they are back in now. WMG and UME have been very slow, but not closed off entirely. From UME, we just got Casper and Swashbuckler in the past few months. From WMG, other than the Harry Potter box BF 2018, Superman a few months later, and Towering Inferno BF 2019, I can't think off the top of my head of anything else from other composers in the past year or so, but I'm sure they've been some Regardless, after covid, things should return to normal at all these places. I think Sony Pictures has been closed for any licensing since it started and hasn't reopened yet, for example Link to post Share on other sites
Arpy 3801 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 So it's just jumping and shouting, trying to get a hold of Disney? I guess this is a problem when hugecorporations like Disney buy everything else up, instead of communicating with them, they will initiate discussions at their convenience. Link to post Share on other sites
crumbs 9334 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jay said: Sony Music was briefly cut off, but MV has said they are back in now. They still have those 2 mystery titles as well, which were first mentioned well over a year ago (before there was any hint of issues with Sony). Seems like those have been in development for an unusually long time. A 30th Anniversary expansion for Hook seems like such a no-brainer, Not sure what's stopping them from re-releasing that score under Mike's supervision (other than cost; they said the initial release was extremely expensive IIRC). If what they said about the vaulted unreleased music is true, maybe it's just a licensing nightmare. BrotherSound 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Arpy said: So it's just jumping and shouting, trying to get a hold of Disney? I guess this is a problem when hugecorporations like Disney buy everything else up, instead of communicating with them, they will initiate discussions at their convenience. Intrada Records has worked with Disney a ton and put out plenty of scores they control - Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend, Black Hole, Hocus Pocus, Night Crossing, A Far Off Place, Return to Oz, Secret of NIMH, The Rocketeer, Dick Tracy, Alive, etc. It's certainly plausible they could get to do Nixon and SpaceCamp. The Patriot, I dunno if that would have to be Intrada, or could be anybody, since Disney only controls the OST album, and Sony Pictures controls all the rest of the music; They'd basically just have to sign paperwork to make the release happen, they don't have to go dig for and transfer any elements or anything The SW and Indy scores will come out on Disney Records in completely form eventually, surely! We must believe! 1 hour ago, crumbs said: They still have those 2 mystery titles as well, which were first mentioned well over a year ago (before there was any hint of issues with Sony). Seems like those have been in development for an unusually long time. They were'nt mentioned BEFORE there was a hint of issues with Sony, they were mentioned BECAUSE there was issues with Sony. Here is the source on JWFan: https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/29227-sony-music-no-longer-dealing-with-soundtrack-labels-update-la-la-land-is-back-in/ or the original source on FSM: https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=116&threadID=118900&archive=0 Quote A 30th Anniversary expansion for Hook seems like such a no-brainer, Not sure what's stopping them from re-releasing that score under Mike's supervision (other than cost; they said the initial release was extremely expensive IIRC). If what they said about the vaulted unreleased music is true, maybe it's just a licensing nightmare. I guess the same things that hold up any other releases: elements or approvals. In the case of Hook, if those missing reels are still missing, maybe they don't consider a new version worth doing until they are found? As for approvals, if they found any of the song demos or anything, they'd have to track down the names of any vocal performers and see if they are under contract with anyone that would need to approve. Plus, all Spielberg films need to be approved by him, and not just by JW; and he's been pretty busy. Of course, he did allow a bunch of really weird deleted scenes on the latest Hook blu, so that gives me hope. But then again, maybe he wouldn't want a release of a musical-ish film score he seems to generally feel ashamed of, when West Side Story is imminent. Luckily by the end of 2021, the actual 30th anniversary of Hook (it opened December 11 1991), West Side Story should be old news... Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 I looked up which film scores that had an OST album on the Hollywood Records label (the label that released The Patriot OST) and have gotten an expansion from the specialty labels, and this is what I found: JNH's Alive (Intrada) Goldsmith's The Ghost and the Darkness (Intrada) Zimmer's MIssion: Impossible II (Mondo - LP only) Newman's Operation Dumbo Drop (Intrada) Goldsmith's Powder (Intrada) Horner's The Rocketeer (Intrada) So it looks like other than the weird Mondo exception, it's gonna be Intrada for The Patriot. Can you imagine, though, if Mondo releases a Patriot expansion on vinyl only? I don't think it's possible, because I don't think Williams allows anyone except Mike to work on his scores, and I don't know if Mike would do Patriot for Mondo without securing rights for Intrada to do a simultaneous CD version, but stranger things have happened..... Link to post Share on other sites
crumbs 9334 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Jay said: As for approvals, if they found any of the song demos or anything, they'd have to track down the names of any vocal performers and see if they are under contract with anyone that would need to approve. Sadly they never elaborated on why that material couldn't be released the first time (we can guess, could be a multitude of reasons) but I suspect they wouldn't bother re-releasing the score unless they were able to get all the material out there and do it comprehensively (especially when fans already purchased that flawed release). They probably want to ensure any subsequent release is worth the second purchase. Holko 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 That's Mike's philosophy for any score he works on: Make all prior releases (and bootlegs) irrelevant so the new one is the only edition you need. Sometimes they have to make sacrifices to fit in the 80 minute runtime, sometimes a composer might reject the inclusion of something he would like to include, but that seems to be the goal he strives for Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted September 4, 2020 Author Share Posted September 4, 2020 I cleaned up the main post to put OST licenses that have expired into their own section And I also had 20th Century Records in the wrong spot! And I also added Heidi and Jane Eyre! Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Jay 20197 Posted September 4, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2020 Here's a simplified list of the remaining expansions / premieres There was no OST album 1958 Daddy-O 1960 I Passed For White 1960 Because They're Young 1961 The Secret Ways 1963 Gidget Goes To Rome 1964 The Killers 1966 The Rare Breed 1966 The Plainsman 1969 Daddy's Gone A-Hunting 1970 Storia di una donna (Story of a Woman) 1972 The Screaming Woman 1972 Images 1973 The Paper Chase 1974 Conrack 1974 The Sugarland Express Disney 1977 Star Wars 1980 The Empire Strikes Back 1981 Raiders of the Lost Ark 1983 Return of the Jedi 1984 Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom 1989 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade 1995 Nixon 1999 The Phantom Menace 2000 The Patriot {Sony Pictures controls the music that wasn't on the OST} 2002 Attack of the Clones 2005 Revenge of the Sith 2008 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull 2015 Star Wars: The Force Awakens 2016 The BFG 2017 Star Wars: The Last Jedi 2019 Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Sony Music 1969 The Reivers 1986 SpaceCamp 1991 Hook 1997 Seven Years In Tibet 1998 Stepmom 1999 Angela's Ashes 2005 Memoirs Of A Geisha 2011 The Adventures of Tintin 2011 War Horse 2012 Lincoln 2013 The Book Thief 2017 The Post Universal Music Enterprises 1967 Valley of the Dolls 1968 Heidi 1970 Jane Eyre 1971 Fiddler On The Roof 1973 Cinderella Liberty 1975 The Eiger Sanction 1989 Born On The Fourth Of July 1989 Always 1995 Sabrina 1996 Sleepers 1997 Amistad 2002 Catch Me If You Can 2004 The Terminal 2005 War of the Worlds 2005 Munich Warner Music Group 1963 Diamond Head 1987 The Witches Of Eastwick 1988 The Accidental Tourist 1991 JFK Varèse Sarabande 1990 Presumed Innocent Man there's still soooooo many JW scores to revisit! The man sure was prolific...... crumbs, BrotherSound and Smaug The Iron 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Bayesian 701 Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 These lists are terrific references to have. Makes it so much easier to track what might be coming and when. Thanks for putting them together, @Jay! Jay 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted September 30, 2020 Author Share Posted September 30, 2020 Crossed War of the Worlds off the list Link to post Share on other sites
ATXHusker 714 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 9/4/2020 at 9:01 AM, Jay said: Pre-fee increase, unexpanded Williams scores with a -0 or -5 anniversary in 2020: The Eiger Sanction (45th anniversary, Universal / UME) SpaceCamp (35th anniversary, Disney / Sony) Presumed Innocent (30th anniversary, Warner Brothers / Varese) Sabrina (25th anniversary, Paramount / UME) Nixon (25th anniversary, Disney / Disney) The Patriot (20th anniversary, Sony / Disney) Really @Jay ? Was this intentional to leave WOTW off at the time to throw us off the trail? I thought it was completed just before the cut-off date? Jay 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 Wow weird! I dunno how I managed to forget that one when making that post, nor how nobody else noticed I forgot it either. Fixed now! Yea, it was recorded before the cutoff - The film opened June 23, and Mike's post says the cutoff date is is July 3rd ATXHusker 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ATXHusker 714 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Close, but it says 25th anniversary 1991 Hook Sony Sony LLL, Intrada, Varese How weird would it be to have a potential Hook re-release go through Intrada or Varese? I know it's happened before with HA2 and The Fury, but IMHO there's nobody better at artwork than Jim Titus, he definitely puts his heart and soul into these releases and it shows! Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 Typo fixed and I agree, Jim Titus is the best in the business - and it's not even close I was very happy he got to do the artwork for Varese's Dracula set! Link to post Share on other sites
ATXHusker 714 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Oh that's right! Forgot about his involvement in Dracula. The packaging for that release was exceptional. Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 Yea I loved those old drawings from Edward Gorey! ATXHusker 1 Link to post Share on other sites
ATXHusker 714 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Where's the SW:ST? Year Film Film Studio Music Label Potential Label 1967 Valley of the Dolls Disney Disney Intrada 1973 Cinderella Liberty Disney Disney Intrada 1977 Star Wars Disney Disney Disney Records 1980 Empire Strikes Back Disney Disney Disney Records 1981 Raiders of the Lost Ark Disney Disney Disney Records 1983 Return of the Jedi Disney Disney Disney Records 1984 Temple of Doom Disney Disney Disney Records 1989 Last Crusade Disney Disney Disney Records 1995 Nixon Disney Disney Intrada 1999 Phantom Menace Disney Disney Disney Records 2000 The Patriot Sony Disney Intrada 2002 Attack of the Clones Disney Disney Disney Records 2005 Revenge of the Sith Disney Disney Disney Records 2008 Crystal Skull Disney Disney Disney Records Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 Huh, must have been an oversight. The BFG is also missing from that post. Obviously, those can only be expanded by Disney Records themselves Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 I cleaned up a few mistakes / misinformation in various posts, should be all correct info posted by me now. Link to post Share on other sites
E-Wan 43 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Arista Records 1990 Home Alone (La-La Land 2015) Jay, IMHO Arista Records released the song album, not John Williams' score which was released by CBS Records. Dreamworks Records 2004 The Terminal 2005 War of the Worlds (Intrada 2020) 2005 Munich Jay, in fact these 3 soundtracks have been released by Decca Records, not Dreamworks Records. Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, E-Wan said: Arista Records 1990 Home Alone (La-La Land 2015) Jay, IMHO Arista Records released the song album, not John Williams' score which was released by CBS Records. Absolutely right! Fixed! 4 minutes ago, E-Wan said: Dreamworks Records 2004 The Terminal 2005 War of the Worlds (Intrada 2020) 2005 Munich Jay, in fact these 3 soundtracks have been released by Decca Records, not Dreamworks Records. Internationally, sure. In the USA, they are Dreamworks Records. Link to post Share on other sites
E-Wan 43 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jay said: Internationally, sure. In the USA, they are Dreamworks Records. Really? According to the following sources all U.S. versions were released by Decca Records too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Williams_discography http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/65585/Terminal%2C+The http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/69722/War+Of+The+Worlds http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/73506/Munich Only FYC promos for The Terminal and Munich were released by DreamWorks. Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 Hmmm I'll have to double check my CDs at home, then! I was looking at them this weekend for something and I remember the Dreamworks Records logo clear as day on Amistad, Saving Private Ryan, Minority Report, and Catch Me If You Can.... but now I can't remember precisely what Terminal WOTW, and Munich said! I'll double check when I get home EDIT: Wikipedia says UMG bought Dreamworks Records in 2003, so maybe the titles released after that point still had the Dreamworks Records logo on them, but they were not distributed by UMG/Decca and got Decca catalog numbers Link to post Share on other sites
E-Wan 43 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jay said: Hmmm I'll have to double check my CDs at home, then! I was looking at them this weekend for something and I remember the Dreamworks Records logo clear as day on Amistad, Saving Private Ryan, Minority Report, and Catch Me If You Can.... but now I can't remember precisely what Terminal WOTW, and Munich said! I'll double check when I get home EDIT: Wikipedia says UMG bought Dreamworks Records in 2003, so maybe the titles released after that point still had the Dreamworks Records logo on them, but they were not distributed by UMG/Decca and got Decca catalog numbers Yes, I think this is the reason why Amistad, Saving Private Ryan, Minority Report and Catch Me If You Can are Dreamworks Records releases and The Terminal, War of the Worlds and Munich are not. Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 Makes sense to me! All fixed up. Link to post Share on other sites
E-Wan 43 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Jay, in the long main list Angela's Ashes is Sony Music release but in the simplified list it is Universal Music Group release. What is right? Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted October 20, 2020 Author Share Posted October 20, 2020 Curiously, that OST album was Sony Classical (SME) in the US, but Decca (UMG) in every other territory. I assume Sony Music will be the entity that matters, but that's probably why I got mixed up above. I fixed it so it's Sony in both places now. Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted June 1 Author Share Posted June 1 Crossed Always off the list. The Eiger Sanction and Born on the Fourth of July is all that remains at MCA Records to be expanded! ATXHusker 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 20197 Posted June 8 Author Share Posted June 8 Added a note about the Quartet release of Images. I waffled on crossing it out, because it got the MM and JW-approved treatment now, or leaving it un-crossed out, because it's not expanded. I decided on the latter but could have gone either way. Chewy 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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