Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 What happened to Fanny Elfman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Mephariel said: He keep writing the same fantasy scores over and over again and his more minimalistic scores have no impact on me. Name fantasy scores outside of Tolkien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I guess The Hobbit is more Jackson than Tolkien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Look who's talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Lord Zimmer said: zzzzZZZZZ like Zimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, gkgyver said: zzzzZZZZZ like Zimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Lord Zimmer said: You drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 I think he's satirizing certain posters who respond in zimilar fashion😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 1 hour ago, bruce marshall said: I think he's satirizing certain posters who respond in zimilar fashion😁 3 hours ago, Thor said: Wow. Satire. Thor. Satire of the idiot Zimmer bashers. Stay calm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 3 hours ago, gkgyver said: Name fantasy scores outside of Tolkien. I think he meant Elfman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Came across this on YouTube: Live performances like these, in the latter half, show that Hans Zimmer just can't orchestrate. Without forcing his chord-melody arrangement through an assortment of filters and ka-boom boosters, it sounds thin and hollow. artus_grayboot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 On 9/5/2020 at 11:54 AM, gkgyver said: Name fantasy scores outside of Tolkien. Who are you talking about? I was talking about Elfman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,492 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 20 hours ago, gkgyver said: Live performances like these, in the latter half, show that Hans Zimmer just can't orchestrate. Without forcing his chord-melody arrangement through an assortment of filters and ka-boom boosters, it sounds thin and hollow. And what does this random Zimmer bashing have to do with the price of tea in China? This is an Elfman thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Thor said: And what does this random Zimmer bashing have to do with the price of tea in China? This is an Elfman thread. Tell it to Lord zzzzzZZZZZimmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Thor said: And what does this random Zimmer bashing have to do with the price of tea in China? This is an Elfman thread. Glad I kept him on IGNORE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 " You can't escape me. Just accept it". 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Elfman’s been pretty vocal about how tough he’s had it in the past decade, and how much Hollywood has changed its approach to scoring. The revolution of high quality samples has meant more revisions and rewrites, and the insistence of studios/producers/directors relying on temp tracks has stifled the creativity of composers including himself. Why on earth you’d hire Elfman if you just want Zimmer is beyond me, but that’s what’s been happening. As for Arnold, I got the impression that he had enough of Hollywood/LA ages ago and wanted to be home in the UK. Seeing as Bond is produced there it was a perfect fit for him, but now that’s gone he’s taking steady but still high-profile television work. Good on him. artus_grayboot and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Docteur Qui said: Why on earth you’d hire Elfman if you just want Zimmer is beyond me, but that’s what’s been happening. Because Zimmer can’t/won’t score every single film that comes his way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 41 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: Because Zimmer can’t/won’t score every single film that comes his way? He can with his clones! artus_grayboot and Jurassic Shark 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Clones or Clowns: The Movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 Why do so many people on JWFan respond to troll posts instead of ignoring them? TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,432 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 What was once an interesting thread now has become a playground for trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deacon Blues 65 Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 He peaked with Spider-Man 2 and hasn't gotten anywhere close to it ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,432 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 I know I'm in the minority here, but I consider Elfman's first Spidey score to be my favorite of his. I like his Batman/Tim Burton scores just fine, but Spider-Man has been one of my favorite scores ever since I was 9 years old and watched the movie in theaters. HunterTech 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Harry Irene said: He peaked with Spider-Man 2 and hasn't gotten anywhere close to it ever since. ALICE IN WONDERLAND is even better# But, your not far off😔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 14 hours ago, Koray Savas said: Because Zimmer can’t/won’t score every single film that comes his way? Yeah, but why hire Elfman for that? There's plenty of other composers who can and have emulated the Zimmer sound, it just doesn't make sense to me to hire Elfman and not want his particular approach. He's a top-tier composer, presumably you'd hire him because you want his music. artus_grayboot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 989 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Edmilson said: I know I'm in the minority here, but I consider Elfman's first Spidey score to be my favorite of his. I like his Batman/Tim Burton scores just fine, but Spider-Man has been one of my favorite scores ever since I was 9 years old and watched the movie in theaters. Amen. Spidey 2 might develop on the sound a bit more, but something about the first one's relative simplicity makes it very endearing to me. In a way, it feels like something that'd accompany a child playing with his toys, which only adds to the charm and shows how well it suits the film. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Docteur Qui said: Yeah, but why hire Elfman for that? There's plenty of other composers who can and have emulated the Zimmer sound, it just doesn't make sense to me to hire Elfman and not want his particular approach. He's a top-tier composer, presumably you'd hire him because you want his music. Are we talking specifically about temp tracks here? Those happen to almost every composer, regardless of who was hired. That being said, Elfman has emulated Zimmer in the past, with The Kingdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 Poor guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,492 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 53 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: That being said, Elfman has emulated Zimmer in the past, with The Kingdom. Not sure I agree. I think THE KINGDOM is molded more after post-rock artists like Explosions in the Sky, Mogwai etc. - an established preference of Peter Berg's. Either way, it's a great score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 8, 2020 Share Posted September 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Thor said: Not sure I agree. I think THE KINGDOM is molded more after post-rock artists like Explosions in the Sky, Mogwai etc. - an established preference of Peter Berg's. Either way, it's a great score. All I have is the single cue on the VSD sampler. I love it. REAL. STEEL was good also. Killer climax! I don't think Elfman ' emulated' HZ. They just both moved towards a minimalist style in the same era. Now Patrick Doyle in THOR sure seems to be doing Zimm! artus_grayboot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Not many composers come out the gate as strong as David Arnold did David Arnold's first five film score albums The Young Americans Stargate Last of the Dogmen Independence Day Tomorrow Never Dies John Williams' first five film score albums Diamond Head How To Steal A Million Penelope Not With My Wife You Don't! Fitzwilly Jerry Goldsmith's first five film score albums Lilies of the Field In Harm's Way A Patch of Blue The Blue Max Our Man Flint James Horner's first five film score albums Battle Beyond The Stars Humanoids From The Deep Star Trek II Brainstorm Gorky Park Alan Silvestri's first five film score albums Cat's Eye Back To The Future (I know it was as score/song combo album but good enough) Clan of the Cave Bear Delta Force No Mercy Danny Elfman's first five film score albums Forbidden Zone Pee-wee's Big Adventure / Back to School Wisdom Beetlejuice Big Top Pee-wee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitam 364 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Jay said: Not many composers come out the gate as strong as David Arnold did Indeed. I'd put Patrick Doyle among them, he gave us Henry V and Dead Again pretty much right out the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 If he's a nobody now can we make fun of his name? On 9/5/2020 at 11:49 AM, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: What happened to Fanny Elfman? Fancy Elfname. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 32 minutes ago, Oomoog the Ecstatic said: If he's a nobody now can we make fun of his name? Fancy Elfname. https://www.jwfan.com/forums/uploads/monthly_2020_06/Screenshot_2020-06-23-20-12-25.png.de7df5154701ffa84379d8ee727b2e3c.png Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 On 9/7/2020 at 12:35 AM, gkgyver said: Tell it to Lord zzzzzZZZZZimmer Yeah because I was the one going offtopic...owh wait no that was you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 21 hours ago, Jay said: Alan Silvestri's first five film score albums Back To The Future (I know it was as score/song combo album but good enough) Clan of the Cave Bear Delta Force No Mercy Who Framed Roger Rabbit? https://www.discogs.com/Alan-Silvestri-Cats-Eye/master/867266 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 Ah, I missed that one! Any idea if it came out before BTTF, or after? I know the FILM came out before the BTTF film, but did Varese maybe only license an album after the success of BTTF? I've never heard this score, incidentally; Is it any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 58 minutes ago, Lord Zimmer said: Yeah because I was the one going offtopic...owh wait no that was you. You know what? We need a "What happened to Hans Zimmer?" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 54 minutes ago, Jay said: Any idea if it came out before BTTF, or after? Sounds like something some obsessive FSMer would know. I sure don't! 55 minutes ago, Jay said: I've never heard this score, incidentally; Is it any good? I think it's pretty fun! All electronic and very very very dated and a bit silly. So if you're into REALLY 80s sounding scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted September 10, 2020 Share Posted September 10, 2020 I have the Intrada expansion so I'll get to it eventually! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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