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22 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

Is there a general Kamen thread? I'm wondering about this new expanded release by the label BAYRES (haven't heard of it before).

 

Highlander - 2 x CD Complete Score - Limited Edition - Michael Kamen

 

https://elitesoundtracks.com/products/highlander-2-x-cd-complete-score-limited-edition-michael-kamen

 

I wonder if the audio presentation is on the level of the cover art, which isn't exactly on the level of Jim Titus...

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7 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

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To be honest, I've never listened to any other Kamen score besides, Robin Hood Prince of Thieves, but that movie was one of the first movies I remember seeing in the theaters as a kid.  My folks loved Costner, so I grew up with a lot of those films.  The overture to this day still gives me goosebumps.

 

 

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Hmmm....looks like a boot. I have the old Edel CD that includes about 20 minutes of the Kamen, as well as bits from Copeland's II and Robinson's III. The sound isn't exactly state-of-the-art, but it's a really good album, and an excellent representation of the Kamen score. I've never really bothered to research any other HIGHLANDER releases, as this disc has fulfilled my need.

 

I consider myself a fan of Kamen's, although I only have about 8 albums at the present time. But I've owned some 5-6 more over the years, and obviously heard a great deal more.

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9 hours ago, bruce marshall said:

THE DEAD ZONE is very good but the CD doesn't match the music in the film.

That one might be a good prospect for expansion.

 

As it happens, there is a concurrent thread about this over on FSM at the moment, and as I just said there:

 

"I always had a hard time getting into this score. Felt cold and detached; and with some textures that just went on my nerves. So I sold my CD at some point. Might be due for another evaluation now, though."

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5 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

That 2 disc HIGHLANDER...that's a boot, right?

 

And the link is for Elite Soundtracks. Avoid this guy at all costs. I've not looked at the website for a long time, but in the CD soundtracks section, I had to get to page 4 before there was a legitimate release. He's a specialist in ripping people off, and not much more. 

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17 hours ago, Jay said:

 

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Great, thanks!

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On 9/22/2020 at 10:30 PM, Jay said:

(on mobile to copy a quote box, you have to press on the header of the quote box and then click the scissor icon, which actually performs Cut, not Copy, but same difference)

I'm sorry, Jay; you lost me, after "mobile".

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11 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

I'm sorry, Jay; you lost me, after "mobile".

 

Well, if you've never wanted to quote a post from one thread, and put that quote into a different thread, then it doesn't really matter if you didn't follow me...

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Top 10 Kamens:

 

1. ROBIN HOOD: PRINCE OF THIEVES

2. Band of Brothers

3. The Three Musketeers

4. Highlander

5. The New Moon in the Old Moon's Arms (concert work)

6. 101 Dalmatians

7. Event Horizon (with Orbital)

8. Mr. Holland's Opus

9. Don Juan de Marco

10. Open Range

 

That's right. No DIE HARDs or LETHAL WEAPONs. Never cared much for those. His arrangement work for Pink Floyd and Metallica would be high up, but I don't count those. BRAZIL is great, but has too much other music going on.

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2 hours ago, Thor said:

Top 10 Kamens:

 

1. ROBIN HOOD: PRINCE OF THIEVES

2. Band of Brothers

3. The Three Musketeers

4. Highlander

5. The New Moon in the Old Moon's Arms (concert work)

6. 101 Dalmatians

7. Event Horizon (with Orbital)

8. Mr. Holland's Opus

9. Don Juan de Marco

10. Open Range

 

That's right. No DIE HARDs or LETHAL WEAPONs. Never cared much for those. His arrangement work for Pink Floyd and Metallica would be high up, but I don't count those. BRAZIL is great, but has too much other music going on.

 

Great choices. Unlike Jurassic Shark, I really love The Three Musketeers and actually find it much more enjoyable than Robin Hood. I was lucky enough to see Leonard Slatkin conduct The New Moon in the Old Moon's Arms when it originally came out (can't remember if it was the premiere, was almost certainly the UK premiere). Just a shame the album is so badly recorded, the level of congestion in the loud parts is pretty bad for a release from a major label. Interesting that Thor doesn't include anything from Die Hard or Lethal Weapon, which I'd probably go with. Good scores, but I don't enjoy them nearly as much as Kamen's other stuff. However, I'd probably try and slip in his Electric Guitar concerto somewhere, the finale in particular is just rollicking fun.

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34 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said:

However, I'd probably try and slip in his Electric Guitar concerto somewhere, the finale in particular is just rollicking fun.

 

Yes, that's a good piece. The saxophone concerto too -- even though the sax as an instrument is often hit and miss to me. I have this ol' DVD, which is recommended to everyone who doesn't own it:

 

https://www.discogs.com/Michael-Kamen-Featuring-David-Sanborn-Concerto-For-Saxophone/release/11826488

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Yikes, I completely forgot FROM THE EARTH TO THE MOON; probably because it doesn't have a proper score album yet. And I even featured it prominently in my Kamen podcast special years ago. Fantastic score (heck, all of the episodes had fine scores, also those not by Kamen). EDGE OF DARKNESS was there too, another one I forgot in the moment. But anyways, now I've mentioned them. They're both top 10 candidates too. It's probably easier for me to list the Kamens I don't particularly care for.

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HECK YEAH, KAMEN THREAD.

 

There hasn't been an official score release of Highlander outside of the 20 minutes, but there's a whole mess of bootlegs in different configurations, with varying degrees of quality.  I'll admit, it's a score that I love but definitely gets kind of repetitive.  I still want an official copy of it badly.

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I liked bis arrangements for Kate Bush and the Eurythmics, but never payed much attention to the scores. I also own that triple CD with excerpts from the three Highlander scores. But I would wish for a CD of the Kamen score including the Queen songs. They are essential to the score, I think.

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Favorite Kamen: Um... Mr. Holland's Opus! Robin Hood (obvs.), Iron Giant. I like X-Men while knowing it's not his best. I should get into Brazil more. I don't know the whole score but the track to Edge of Darkness on Mr. Kamen's Opus is awesome.

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Something random I came across very recently. I was reading Alan Rickman’s diaries and it appears he was a friend of Michael Kamen’s, as he’s mentioned various times. It appears they socialised a lot. I won’t spoil it for anyone who wants to read the diaries but there is an amusing description of Kamen a month before his death.

 

Incidentally, Rickman seems to have also socialised with Gabriel Yared and Patrick Doyle.

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12 hours ago, Alex said:

Something random I came across very recently. I was reading Alan Rickman’s diaries and it appears he was a friend of Michael Kamen’s, as he’s mentioned various times. It appears they socialised a lot. I won’t spoil it for anyone who wants to read the diaries but there is an amusing description of Kamen a month before his death.

 

Incidentally, Rickman seems to have also socialised with Gabriel Yared and Patrick Doyle.

So the dude was friends with Kamen, Yared and Doyle, but still didn't care about John Williams' music? Maybe he was mad because JW never called him to hang up with?

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