Popular Post Chewy 2,372 Posted September 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted September 25, 2020 As @Holko and @Jay suggested, I've spent some time doing these isolated score videos for Minority Report, one of my favorite Spielberg movies and also one of my favorite John Williams scores! So the objective of this as you may already know, is to present the movie as JW scored it, by restoring unused and replaced music. We are fortunate enough that we got an amazing release from La-La-Land Records last year featuring the complete score plus a bunch of alternates. I strictly used the presentation that Mike Matessino established to make the videos, meaning there is absolutely no edits in the music except of course when two separated cues on the set are meant to overlap in the movie. I really wanted to avoid using black screens when the movie goes out of sync either if some sections are looped or stretched, because it can sometimes be distracting, so I decided, when possible, to alter the picture by slowing elegantly some shots. I will post the videos in several parts, hope you enjoy it The Crime / Creating The Red Balls The movie version starts very differently with deep drums beats (that opening is presented in the Additional Music section of the LLL release), here we see how JW intended the movie to start. The cue fits pretty much, I made small adjustments to the picture for better sync with the music. Pre-Crime To The Rescue For a eight-minute cue, the cue fits pretty well even though I also made some slight adjustments to the picture. Note that the section from 6:38 to 7:00 was not used in the movie, instead, other bits of the same cue were tracked here. Images Of Sean Only the ending of that piece was actually used in the movie (starting from 2:53). Two openings were recorded for the cue, both included in the LLL track Images Of Sean. Since I did not want to edit that track, I duplicated some footage to present the two different openings in the same video: the revised opening 1M9R Image of Sean (Revised) from 0:10 to 1:17 and the original opening as recorded in 1M9 Image Of Sean from 1:17 to 2:20. Presenting The Pre-Cogs / Agatha The middle of the first cue was not used at all in the movie. That section from 1:24 to 2:55 was tracked from Leo Crow ... The Confrontation and “Sean” By Agatha". We can now see how JW intended it for that scene. It really took time to edit the movie to the cue but I'm very happy with how it turned out. The Containment Center / First Vision Of Anne Lively Nothing much to say except that I love The Containment Center, one of my favorite cues of the score! Suspicion The whole beginning was not used in the movie (from 0:10 to 0:55). Here's the whole scene, as JW scored it. The Collage That cue seems to belong to a deleted scene that is unfortunately not available. Even though it refers to 2M6B Schubert Collage, I don't see how it could be used as an overlay to the Schubert piece that plays before. Here is what can be found in the script (great find @crumbs): The Elevator / On The Run The Elevator starts 5 seconds earlier in the movie but with sections in the beginning looped. I did not edit the picture here, I just made the cue start a bit later and it looks correct. Note that the ending of the cue sounds different in the movie, only the synth can be heard. On The Run fits perfectly! Anderton Escapes / The Conveyor Belt The first part from Anderton Escapes fits properly but then there are 3 sections in the second half that are simply cut in the movie. This is the first case I had to use black screens to make the cue sync with the picture. I tried to see if the deleted footage could be seen in the Blu-Ray bonuses, sadly the "previz" for that scene is identical to what ended up in the final movie. The Conveyer Belt overall fits pretty well even though there is a cut section (from 6:46 to 7:02) which I also had to fill with black screens. Nothing could be found about that deleted footage either. The section from 7:52 to 8:00 was unused in the movie. Instead the percussion from an earlier section of The Conveyor Belt and the drum overlay from Freezing Water were tracked. We can see how JW intended it here. The Greenhouse Effect Fits, even though I made minor adjustments to the picture. The Operating Room / Dr. Eddie And Miss Van Eyck Like the previous cue, this one fits pretty well, with some little changes to the picture. The Swimming Pool Fits perfectly! Deploying The Spyders / Freezing Water This one was really fun to do. I had to adjust the picture to make some crucial sync points work but overall the cue fits pretty well! The beginning of Freezing Water (at 2:42 in this video) uses an alternate drum cue in the movie (presented in the Additional Music section of the LLL release). Here we can see how great the original drum section (that was also present on the OST) plays with the picture. Saving The Eye Another really fun one! There is a section (from 2:11 to 2:21) that doesn't play at all in the movie, instead, other bits of the same cue were tracked/looped here. After making subtle adjustments to the picture, we see how the cue JW composed should have worked in the movie in its entirety, and it's amazing! How Much Time Have We Got? A short cue that got artificially looped in the movie to make it start a bit earlier. Here I tried to adapt the picture to make the music sync even better than in the final cut, I like the result! Another Vision This one was really tricky. Only the ending was used in the movie (starting from 2:07 in the video) with the vocal section stretched and mixed differently. While restoring the whole cue to the picture, I decided not to follow the way the last part of the music was used, I instead altered the picture as I believe Williams scored it. The result is, in my opinion, wonderful and makes this piece one of the most interesting of the entire score. The Man In The Window Fits perfectly well. Leo Crow ... The Confrontation The whole 5-minute cue syncs perfectly with the picture, there was no need to edit anything. The ending, however, was most likely lasting longer on the cut JW scored: there should have been indeed an additional 15 seconds segment supposed to play before the part when Anderton is about to kill Leo Crow (which used repeated music from this cue). I unfortunately had to insert a black screen for that segment. The Revelation Small adjustments for better sync, but overall fits well. "Sean" By Agatha / Run! This one sounds really good! Even though “Sean” By Agatha was microedited in the movie, especially towards the end, those two pieces fit well with the picture. Anderton In Halo This one was complicated because the second part of the cue belongs to a deleted scene that was not made public. However, since the original script for that scene was released, I decided to imagine how the music should have played here. This really is a gorgeous cue and I would really love to see how the real scene looks like. I Never Said She Drowned This cue has a looped beginning in the movie, making it start a bit earlier. Apart from that, it fits pretty well! Confronting Lamar / Thought Transference and Finale Confronting Lamar was overall, a very very tricky cue, with many editorial changes that seem to have altered JW original intentions. The beginning was not used and we have instead tracked bits of The Greenhouse Effect playing in the movie.There is also a whole 40-second segment that most likely was added after JW scored the scene (supposed to play at 2:23). Bits of The Crime were tracked here. I removed this segment and edited the picture to get closer to what I think JW scored and I can say I'm really proud of the result. On the opposite, Thought Transference and Finale fits a lot better, I only made the usual small changes to the picture for a better sync. A New Beginning / Minority Report In the movie, three pieces play for that finale scene: A New Beginning, Sean's Theme and Minority Report (End Credits). Since Sean's Theme was initially composed as an alternate for A New Beginning, here we see how JW scored the ending of the movie: A New Beginning followed by the End Credits cue. Alternates and Source Music Pre-Crime Commercial I did this one just for fun. The source music has a looped ending in the movie so I tried to adapt the picture to make it fit. The Crime (Alternate) Here we can hear the alternate opening of the cue, with three percussion hits that were actually used for the film version opening. The rest of the cue is an alternate performance of The Crime. Anderton Escapes (Alternate) This is the same cue as Anderton Escapes but this time with the percussion overlay that appears only partially in the movie. Deploying The Spyders / Freezing Water (Alternate) The difference with the main program version is the whole different beginning of Freezing Water, starting at 2:42. That alternate percussion segment was used, in a shortened form, in the movie. Note that the percussion overlay still plays in the main program during the harp section at 3:08. Here we can hear that section without any percussion. The Man In The Window (Alternate) A shorter, alternate version that still fits perfectly well. "Sean" by Agatha (Alternate) Here is the original recording of that cue, without the replaced segment from 2:08 to 3:36. I really love those variations of Sean's Theme and it's great to discover what was JW's first intentions. Sean's Theme Here is the alternate for A New Beginning, as it should have played in the movie. Definitely a different approach, but it's really working. crumbs, Holko, ragoz350 and 3 others 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Yes, this is awesome! I'll be checking this out soon! Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, Chewy said: The Crime / Creating The Red Balls The movie version starts very differently with deep drums beats (that opening is presented in the Additional Music section of the LLL release), here we see how JW intended the movie to start. The cue fits pretty much, I made small adjustments to the picture for better sync with the music. Great work, Chewy. I haven't seen the whole movie since it was released... but what was the frickin' point of making that wooden ball and burning the name of the perpetrator onto it? Wouldn't Anderton and his team lose valuable seconds because of that? Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 There's no good real-life reason, but it looks cool on film and gives something tangible Anderton can pick up and hide from his coworkers later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,498 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 This is supposedly from a draft script but I remember something like this from the movie too: "The information we need is embedded in the grain of wood. And since each piece is unique, the shape and grain is impossible to duplicate." So it's like a defense against possible forgery? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Ah, state-of-the-art anti-piracy technology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oierem 151 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 About "Images of Sean", if I'm not mistaken, according to Jason's spreadsheet the first two minutes of the cue are actually two alternative versions that score the same thing (Anderton watching Sean's hologram), and therefore, the beginning of the scene should not have any music. Am I remembering it correctly? Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 1M9 Image Of Sean is a cue of approx 2:45ish length that was Williams' original take on the scene. Later, a new Insert was written and recorded - 1M9R Image of Sean (Revised) - that was meant to replace the opening minute-ish with new material. In the film, Spielberg didn't use either version and had that part of the scene play with no score at all For the OST album, Williams started the OST track "Sean and Laura" with the 1M9R revised opening, then crossfaded into the start of the original 1M9 cue, rather then the point it was intended to segue into (and then eventually the track crossfades into 4M5 The Swimming Pool Scene, before 1M9 is over). On the recording session leak, the new opening is properly edited into the rest of the original cue, as intended by Williams. This left the OST as the only place to hear his original opening anywhere. For the LLL album, Mike followed suit with what Williams did for the OST, and started the track "Images of Sean" with the entire 1M9R Image Of Sean (Revised) opening, followed by the entire 1M9 Image Of Sean cue (in his version the two aren't overlapped like the OST, so you can finally hear the full clean ending of the insert and the full clean opening of the original cue). I haven't watched the score restore videos yet, but basically you'd have to repeat about a minute of footage back to back if you are syncing up to the exact LLL track. Either opening would start at the same point, I think on the first shot of Sean The other option would be to edit the revised opening out of the track and make a video for that, then edit the opening minute of the original version out and properly segue the insert into the rest and make a second video, but that's more work Chewy and oierem 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Chewy, just watched the videos, they are great! For The Crime, I think I like the revised version of the music better (Spielberg was right to ask for a revision); Are you planning on doing videos for the alternates later? I also like how The Crime and Creating The Red Balls are combined, and kinda wish they were combined on the LLL album too. DItto for the 2 parts of Pre-Crime To The Rescue Images of Sean is already covered, so you know the music you have playing under Anderton in his apartment before he starts the Sean video wasn't intended I love the Presenting The Pre Cogs music, so this was great to see, as was Agatha Spring Forward, The Containment Center, and Annie Lively! Sucpicion / Witwer Snooping was cool too because I had never tried to sync that before, I think Spielberg probably made the right call to leave it unscored Nice find on that script page indicating there was likely a deleted scene in between when the guy in the room talks to Anderton and when he gets in the elevator, that finally explains Schubert Collage! The Elevator Confrontation and Anderton On The Run are good, and man I love that instance of the Pre-Crime theme in Don't Run John when Spielberg cuts to an overhead shot showing Anderton surrounded I hadn't realized how much footage was cut from the apartment chase and car factory sequence after Williams scored it, pretty wild. Keep up the good work! crumbs and Chewy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 SEAN!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,372 Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 7 hours ago, Jay said: Are you planning on doing videos for the alternates later? Yes, there will be a bonus section with all the alternates from the LLL release (except for The Collage). 7 hours ago, Jay said: Images of Sean is already covered, so you know the music you have playing under Anderton in his apartment before he starts the Sean video wasn't intended Thanks for the info, I will have to fix that cue even if I thought it worked great haha! EDIT: fixed! oierem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Great work on the fixed video! Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Awesome videos, @Chewy. And ditto on the discovery of the deleted scene from the script. Also, what is it with Spielberg and deleted scenes? I think that each of his films must have an assortment of those, but for some reason only cut footage from Jaws, Close Encounters, 1941, E.T., Hook, and The Lost World was allowed to be released (and not all of them for E.T., Hook, and The Lost World) Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,498 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Not all of them by far for CE3K either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,296 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 I always suspected The Collage belonged to a deleted scene so I'm glad I checked the shooting script. Shame that some other Spielberg films never had script leaks so we can't always check these things (A.I. springs to mind). The deleted scene situation is indeed very inconsistent and frustrating. Munich supposedly had some pretty key scenes removed as well, none released. Plus a big VFX sequence in WOTW that never got released, presumably because they ran out of time to finish it. I desperately want to watch these videos but I still haven't had the chance to listen to the LLL yet! But it looks like you've done a great job @Chewy. Can't wait to get in on the isolated score action myself, as soon as you finish Minority Report Holko and Chewy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 2 hours ago, crumbs said: I always suspected The Collage belonged to a deleted scene so I'm glad I checked the shooting script. Out of curiosity, were you able to find a scene where Witwer addresses a large gathering of Anderton's colleagues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTenma 116 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 On 9/25/2020 at 7:46 PM, Holko said: This is supposedly from a draft script but I remember something like this from the movie too: "The information we need is embedded in the grain of wood. And since each piece is unique, the shape and grain is impossible to duplicate." So it's like a defense against possible forgery? Yes, I recall that is kind of a secure data storage of the crime to be. A way to avoid that someone fake some information of a made up crime. And yes, also it looks cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,296 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 15 hours ago, Corellian2019 said: Out of curiosity, were you able to find a scene where Witwer addresses a large gathering of Anderton's colleagues? This? Spoiler INT. BRIEFING ROOM - DAY Witwer addresses the Precrime crew. Behind him is the frozen video image of Anderton shooting Leo Crow. Evanna stares up at it in disbelief. WITWER You may consider him a friend. He walks up the line now, looking into the eyes of each and every one of them. WITWER But we know that John Anderton is going to kill Leo Crow this Friday at three-o-six p.m., unless we stop him. He looks into Fletcher's eyes, moves on... WITWER Don't think for a minute that if the situation was reversed he wouldn't go after you. He would be a cop doing his job, as I'm doing mine. He stops at Evanna and looks her in the eye now. WITWER So if you're not ready and willing to put the halo on him, leave now. A few looks around the room, but nobody gets up. Not even Fletcher. Witwer stares another moment at Evanna, smiles, offers her a piece of gum... EVANNA No, thank you. He sticks it in his own mouth, then turns to the officer beside her. WITWER You can go. OFFICER Excuse me? WITWER Go. You're dismissed. (points to another) You, too. (another) And you. Everybody watches as the men Witwer dismissed walk out. FLETCHER Sir, the team's gonna be light without those men. WITWER Yes, I know. And now the Pressure Door opens and FOUR LARGE MEN in dark suits enter the room. Knott smiles at the sight of them. WITWER These gentlemen are Federal Agents Jucket, Paymen, Price and Foley. Like you, I feel more comfortable with people I trust. Corellian2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,372 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 27, 2020 Updated main post with new videos: The Greenhouse Effect The Operating Room / Dr. Eddie And Miss Van Eyck The Swimming Pool Deploying The Spyders / Freezing Water Saving The Eye How Much Time Have We Got? Another Vision crumbs, ragoz350 and Holko 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Ooooh Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 14 hours ago, crumbs said: This? Hide contents INT. BRIEFING ROOM - DAY Witwer addresses the Precrime crew. Behind him is the frozen video image of Anderton shooting Leo Crow. Evanna stares up at it in disbelief. WITWER You may consider him a friend. He walks up the line now, looking into the eyes of each and every one of them. WITWER But we know that John Anderton is going to kill Leo Crow this Friday at three-o-six p.m., unless we stop him. He looks into Fletcher's eyes, moves on... WITWER Don't think for a minute that if the situation was reversed he wouldn't go after you. He would be a cop doing his job, as I'm doing mine. He stops at Evanna and looks her in the eye now. WITWER So if you're not ready and willing to put the halo on him, leave now. A few looks around the room, but nobody gets up. Not even Fletcher. Witwer stares another moment at Evanna, smiles, offers her a piece of gum... EVANNA No, thank you. He sticks it in his own mouth, then turns to the officer beside her. WITWER You can go. OFFICER Excuse me? WITWER Go. You're dismissed. (points to another) You, too. (another) And you. Everybody watches as the men Witwer dismissed walk out. FLETCHER Sir, the team's gonna be light without those men. WITWER Yes, I know. And now the Pressure Door opens and FOUR LARGE MEN in dark suits enter the room. Knott smiles at the sight of them. WITWER These gentlemen are Federal Agents Jucket, Paymen, Price and Foley. Like you, I feel more comfortable with people I trust. Yep! This seems to correspond exactly with a photo included in the LLL liner notes crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted September 30, 2020 Share Posted September 30, 2020 Awesome! Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragoz350 450 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Chewy and Jurassic Shark 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,498 Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 Chewy absolutely does intend on finishing this before starting War of the Worlds, not to worry. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,359 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 @Chewy, I'm finally getting around to watching these, and this is phenomenal work. Thank you for these! I like to think they give a whole new perspective on JW's approach to scoring. Can't wait to see more! Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,372 Posted November 8, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2020 Updated main post with the last videos for Minority Report: The Man In The Window Leo Crow ... The Confrontation The Revelation “Sean” By Agatha / Run! Anderton In Halo I Never Said She Drowned Confronting Lamar / Thought Transference and Finale A New Beginning / Minority Report Pre-Crime Commercial The Crime (Alternate) Anderton Escapes (Alternate) Deploying The Spyders / Freezing Water (Alternate) The Man In The Window (Alternate) "Sean" by Agatha (Alternate) Now I'm ready for War of the Worlds ragoz350, Holko and crumbs 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Cool! On 11/8/2020 at 5:41 AM, Chewy said: Now I'm ready for War of the Worlds BRING IT ON! Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Seeing these videos, I wonder why MM split/joined the following cues the way he did: Presenting the Pre-Cogs Agatha and The Containment Center First Vision of Anne Lively Although in the videos it is quite obvious that these cues naturally belong together in the following way: Presenting the Pre-Cogs and Agatha The Containment Center and First Vision of Anne Lively Great work by the way @Chewy! Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 381 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 Thanks for these @Chewy! Lovely work I was just following along, and noticed that JW indicated for "Balloon Gongs" in 1M1 The Crime: Does anyone have any idea what instrument he's referring to? Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,296 Posted November 13, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 13, 2020 Here's a bonus video that might interest a few people! An exact recreation of the film edit of Schubert's Unfinished Symphony, using the same recording heard in the film. Enjoy! Chewy, crlbrg, ragoz350 and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,314 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Amazing work! I must confess , I don't think it's a particularly good film. Visually, it's way to stylized and the script is convoluted and turns a philosophical film into a chase flic. I'm also surprised that fans here went for an expanded version of the score. So much is atmosphere and suspense. I have the ost and only program thirty two minures. Anyway, thanks for these iso scores! Fun to watch and listen Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted January 2, 2023 Share Posted January 2, 2023 Awesome work all around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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