TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Wha's the music in the trailer? Sounds like an attractive theme to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 12 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: Wha's the music in the trailer? Sounds like an attractive theme to me. I think it's all "I'll be there" by the Four Tops, but turned into one of those unnecessary epic trailer single note versions at the end. I don't think it contains any of Silvestri's score (which is a bit odd as it's all finished as far as I'm aware). TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I think you are right. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 As expected, witch design looks like lazy CGI shit: I'm sure that lack of hair will really scare the children Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Is this seriously from the movie, and not some fan made shit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi 404 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, crumbs said: As expected, witch design looks like lazy CGI shit: I'm sure that lack of hair will really scare the children Looks like Fright Night, i like it. On 10/2/2020 at 4:22 PM, Thor said: I'm hoping this is more inspired than a lot of other Silvestri and Zemeckis we've gotten recently. Welcome to Marwen was really great. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 hours ago, crumbs said: I'm sure that lack of hair will really scare the children That’s from both the Dahl novel and the first movie. One of the signs of a real witch is that they’re all bald and wear wigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I'll admit that I've never read or seen The Witches (we're going to watch the O.G. on 10/31), but I think that witch mouth is suitably gross/creepy. In motion is where the CGI might fail for me. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 hours ago, Obi said: Looks like Fright Night, i like it. I'm a big fan of Fright Night, the original. Evil's de-transformation and death has to be one of the coolest practical effects sequences in movie history. Obi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 4 hours ago, crumbs said: That's hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I'm a big fan of Fright Night, the original. Evil's de-transformation and death has to be one of the coolest practical effects sequences in movie history. I hate that studios are so averse to practical effects nowadays. Why not go practical with subtle CGI enhancements? So much more effective than purely CGI solutions. The Thing remake being a perfect example of studio interference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, crumbs said: Why not go practical with subtle CGI enhancements? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Sadly yeah, $$$$ is the reason. Practical effects require time to build, time to set up, and if it includes makeup on an actor; that's time to apply it on them EVERY day it is used. And these days, CGI is still often used to either enhance the practical effects or to better integrate them into the scene, albeit wire removal, etc. So, there's more time and money there, too. More people involved to do all of this, so that's more people to pay, longer time required to pay them all. Sure, digital effects take time... but it involves a smaller team on-set. The prep is much faster these days, and I'm sure for the scenes of the Witches in this case, the only "makeup" applied were dots on their heads to map the digital effects (if they even needed to). Much less time consuming. There are more people that work on the digital effects than there are actually on set, but many of those people can also be outsourced: and for cheap. It's a different schedule and setup than on a movie set. I am sure there are no crafts and services for people who just work on their computers to work on the film. And now since CGI has advanced a lot since its inception (we can complain all we want about how bad they can sometimes look, but nothing compares to bad 90s CGI in case people forgot it...), the modern audience either can't tell the difference... or doesn't care to. Hence, only special big movies like Star Wars and the like will probably ever have a taste of that golden era ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I will actually challenge that CGI is always awful. I would infact say this - CGI is only getting better and better. How do we know this? It is increasingly getting more pervasive and insidious. In the sense, even in your regular ordinary drama movies, there is so much CGI these days to alter backgrounds and scenes and what not, it is absolutely seamless and the audience is none-the-wiser. The problem with something like The Witches is that it is so obviously impossible that her mouth would open that wide that your brain's uncanny valley reflex kicks in telling you that it is fake even though actually it looks about as real as it can. CGI definitely has come a long way. Even something like LOTR, which was cutting edge in early 2000s looks very fake today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Yep! And I am sure it will look even better by the next decade. I will say that LOTR has good and bad CGI moments.... a lot of it still holds up really well, or at least was done so artistically that even though you know it isn't real, it almost doesn't need to be. But yeah, in the case of Witches, there is definitely that uncanny valley effect going on. After all this time and they still haven't mastered how to properly fix this problem, sometimes I wonder if they will ever be able to? And that is a good point about CGI being used in things like dramas in ways people don't realize. Honestly, if it weren't for CGI, I doubt TV programs would look as good as they do today, because I think that is definitely another place CGI is used to make a smaller television production look much better than it would have with budgets of the past. Granted, those budgets have also increased since then, but they still aren't as costly as they nowadays appear. Except maybe Dark Crystal: Age Of Resistance... damn, I really hope someone rescues that show... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Here is how it looks in motion. And these days, so many TV productions have even a scene of 2 people talking with some blu screen backgrounds and voila - they are in a room with nice production design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 I wonder if we'll hear any of this score before the movie is released. I keep an eye on WaterTower Records Youtube page just in case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I think the mouth looks fine. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 16, 2020 Author Share Posted October 16, 2020 Mouthgate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: I think the mouth looks fine. Pervert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 used to watch the 1990 movie a lot as a child and just watched it again last night. I know there's always a certain chance to overhype things from your childhood, but I really think that the first 13 minutes – with the grandmother talking about her friend Erika and the death of the parents – are beautiful terrifying and very well made. scallenger and Disco Stu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 17, 2020 Author Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, lemoncurd said: used to watch the 1990 movie a lot as a child and just watched it again last night. I know there's always a certain chance to overhype things from your childhood, but I really think that the first 13 minutes – with the grandmother talking about her friend Erika and the death of the parents – are beautiful terrifying and very well made. Yeah it's one of those adaptations that really captures the spirit of the book. One of only a couple of Dahl adaptations to do that successfully (spoiler: neither of the Wonkas do). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,348 Posted October 17, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2020 Ah, venmo has sisters. Edmilson, Matt C and mstrox 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 hour ago, lemoncurd said: used to watch the 1990 movie a lot as a child and just watched it again last night. I know there's always a certain chance to overhype things from your childhood, but I really think that the first 13 minutes – with the grandmother talking about her friend Erika and the death of the parents – are beautiful terrifying and very well made. Of course it is. It's made by a master director! I saw the film up again a few years ago, and it held up wonderfully. No nostalgia necessary. blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 How's Stanley Myers' score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Great, from what I can recall. I never owned it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I can't see that it's ever been released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Not sure it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I agree that the original film still holds up mostly well! However, something that was ALWAYS annoying, even back then was... the kid that plays Luke. Sure he's cute and serviceable to the story, whatever... but his whining "GRAAAANNNNDDDDMMMMAAAAA" was obnoxious back then as it is now! LOL. Hahahaha. Honestly, once he turns into a mouse he actually stops being annoying! LOL. He REALLY should have stayed that way like in the book! Hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Know 326 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Has anyone found a tracklist yet for this release (due in 3 days)? I'm kind of surprised that WaterTower hasn't released a teaser track already, which they did for Wonder Woman 1984 and Ready Player One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Keeping it tight to their chest, I suppose. No promotional notifications from WaterTower on this yet either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Or they forgot about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbeck 123 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 The movie seems so-so with a current 56% score on Rottentomatoes, but the score seems promissing: Alan Silvestri's score is the only magical ingredient in this CGI-heavy potion. [Full Review in Spanish] October 22, 2020 | Full Review… Nestor Bentancor Nestor Cine Desde Hollywood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 Tracklist and samples are up on NZ iTunes https://music.apple.com/nz/album/the-witches-original-motion-picture-soundtrack/1536667455 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Just pressed play and the first sample immediately made me think of Contact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 Overall these samples are not very exciting. But I'll give it a listen or two, and I'm sure there will be 2 or 3 keeper cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 Witches Are Real 2:25 2 My First Witch 3:45 3 What You Saw 3:07 4 Chickenafied 2:45 5 Enter the Witches 3:57 6 Grand High Witch 3:21 7 Witches 3:31 8 Instant Mouse 4:07 9 A Narrow Escape 4:40 10 Fourth Floor 3:13 11 It Can Be Very Dangerous 3:11 12 The Potion 3:56 13 Let's Make A Potion 3:58 14 The Mission 2:33 15 Soup Is On 2:45 16 Pigtails 3:29 17 A Stolen Key 3:27 18 Let Me Out 2:33 19 I Didn't Hear A Thing 3:08 20 Pea Soup 2:23 21 End Credits (The Witches) 5:54 TOTAL TIME - 1:12:08 Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I feel this is going to be a recap of Mouse Hunt, with some scary witch music thrown in. I don't mind that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 You don't have to wonder what it sounds like, you can go press the play button and hear the samples right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I don't have that ability right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 New Silvestri! We don't get days like this often enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I don't have that ability right now. Me neither. Guess we'll have to wait untill tomorrow to hear the clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 "Pre-release 23rd October" What on earth does that mean? It's either not out or it's out, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 It's out in any country where it already is October 23rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Not on the Australian store for some reason (12.45am). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 It's there now https://music.apple.com/au/album/the-witches-original-motion-picture-soundtrack/1536667455 It must go by the timezone of one particular section of Australia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,315 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 28 minutes ago, Jay said: It's there now https://music.apple.com/au/album/the-witches-original-motion-picture-soundtrack/1536667455 It must go by the timezone of one particular section of Australia. I'm in daylight savings time (which varies between states on the eastern coast) so that could explain why it wasn't there at midnight for me (because it's an hour ahead of AEST). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 Been there, done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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