Jurassic Shark 11,993 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 I'd say Marianelli's V for Vendetta is one of the better ones. https://open.spotify.com/album/5mYHOFEuev49xUNaXFmkcF?si=iAFEdU8_T96FMyMuNv2Z7A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,194 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,352 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 It's been years since I've heard that, but Clint Mansell's Black Swan is a pretty good adaptation of Tchaikovsky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,310 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 BABE FEARLESS MOTHER NIGHT THIN RED LINE SHUTTER ISLAND DAYS OF HEAVEN EXCALIBUR THE NEW WORLD RAGING BULL SOLARIS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,352 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Yeah, Days of Heaven is a great choice as well. Love the integration of Morricone's score with Camille Saint Saens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,894 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 I loved how "Fearless" incorporated Gorecki's Symphony No. 3 in the final moments. They hint at the crash through flashes and cuts that transforms all the characters in multiple ways but Jeff Bridges experiences a god complex after but not till that last minutes does the audience experience it. Also the score throughout is very minimal in this dialog heavy film but the ending has very little dialog, just this music and visuals and it packs a very powerful punch in context. It makes the movie feel like a symphony in how the final scene makes you reinterpret all that happened before. It's a very good film. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Fabulin and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,310 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 2 hours ago, karelm said: I loved how "Fearless" incorporated Gorecki's Symphony No. 3 in the final moments. They hint at the crash through flashes and cuts that transforms all the characters in multiple ways but Jeff Bridges experiences a god complex after but not till that last minutes does the audience experience it. Also the score throughout is very minimal in this dialog heavy film but the ending has very little dialog, just this music and visuals and it packs a very powerful punch in context. It makes the movie feel like a symphony in how the final scene makes you reinterpret all that happened before. It's a very good film. At the top of my list!!! It's so iconic here that filmmakers should never us it again! Photography by the late, great Alan Daviau. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,310 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Does 2001 count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,310 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 36 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: Does 2001 count? Well, if SHUTTER ISLAND does....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,993 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 Then I say Amadeus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,310 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Biopics of composers don't count. Dummy! Think, man think!😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,473 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 There's a famous story of how, at a pitch meeting for the film of AMADEUS, the writer recited the storyline, to which one "suit" replied: "That's fantastic! Now, who's going to do the music? My favourites would be: 2001 2010 FEARLESS EXCALIBUR ROLLERBALL THE ELEPHANT MAN Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,310 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I would like to add Billy Wilder's 1, 2, 3 to the list. And if single scenes count I would add Empire of the Sun where JW included the piano piece of Chopin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,310 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 12 hours ago, Jay said: Kinda overused. But I like the orchestration! I prefer Morricone incorporating it into the showdown in THE BIG GUNDOWN ( The villain us German, naturally) 12 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I'd say Marianelli's V for Vendetta is one of the better ones. https://open.spotify.com/album/5mYHOFEuev49xUNaXFmkcF?si=iAFEdU8_T96FMyMuNv2Z7A What piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,993 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 The last, I think. The one with cannons in its title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,963 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I don't especially like needle-dropping classical recordings in films because that's often just a cheap way to make them feel more elevated or whatever. I know some filmmakers like Malick and Kubrick get a lot of credit for that but it often strikes me as less bold than commissioning new original music. But I do enjoy where composers are given a chance to adapt classical pieces into their scores. Ottman using Mozart in X2 and Beethoven in X-Men: Apocalypse Williams using Chopin in Empire of the Sun and Strauss in A.I. Marianelli using Tchaikovsky in V for Vendetta Kraemer using Puccini in MI5. I'm not saying that those piece are all expertly handled but at least they did something with them. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I gotta be on brand and single out how Spike Lee beautifully recontextualized the music of Aaron Copland in He Got Game. Just check out this gorgeous use of the coda from Appalachian Spring Or the use of Lincoln Portrait here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,993 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 50 minutes ago, crocodile said: Williams using Chopin in Empire of the Sun and Strauss in A.I. And Schubert in Minority Report. 50 minutes ago, crocodile said: Kraemer using Puccini in MI5. Kraemer did very well blending into his own style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,963 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: And Schubert in Minority Report. I didn't know Williams had anything to do with that? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,993 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 Ah, that's right, it was only verbatim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Wait did you mean just original scores that *interpolate* classical @Jurassic Shark? Not needle drops? I’ll have to think about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,993 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 I was thinking about both cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 16 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I was thinking about both cases. I think I’d like to single out Carter Burwell’s arrangement of Khatchaturian for The Hudsucker Proxy. It’s so evocative and strikes the perfect tone for that opening narration: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,993 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 Nice, I wasn't familiar with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,918 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 12 hours ago, gkgyver said: I dislike the movie, but you can never EVER go wrong with Gotterdamerung (and a bit of Parsifal thrown in there for good measure). Nothing even comes close. gkgyver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,030 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 My girlfriend and I were watching The Wizard of Oz last night. Always love the bits of classical and popular music that crop up in the score. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,310 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 This: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,417 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 There are a number of sub categories here - films that use one particular classical piece in a central scene, but otherwise not (PLATOON), films that have lots of classical pieces throughout (Kubrick), films that have both classical pieces and original score to varying extent (Malick), films wherein both the classical and original score are stylistically related, films where they are not related etc. etc. So not easy to narrow it down. But broadly speaking, these are some of my favourites that belong to either of these categories: RESTORATION THE MADNESS OF KING GEORGE SHADOWLANDS Most anything Kubrick and Malick, as previously mentioned THE GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD TRAFFIC SOLARIS THE BUTCHER BOY THE MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY SLEEPING BEAUTY BLACK SWAN CRIMSON TIDE THE WHITE CROW THE NUTCRACKER AND THE FOUR REALMS ALIEN YOUNG INDY - "VERDUN" THE PAPER CHASE EMPIRE OF THE SUN JFK MANCHESTER BY THE SEA LOVE & FRIENDSHIP AD ASTRA THE REMAINS OF THE DAY (heck, all Merchant/Ivorys, really) HARDWARE THE SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION EXCALIBUR DEATH AND THE MAIDEN PORTRAIT OF A LADY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,993 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, Thor said: THE PAPER CHASE I can't remember much of this score. Which classical piece is used, and is it arranged by JW, or quoted verbatim? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,417 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Bach: "Little Fugue" In G Minor Telemann: Concerto In D Major (Allegro) They are both arranged by Williams, according to the liner notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Datameister said: My girlfriend and I were watching The Wizard of Oz last night. Always love the bits of classical and popular music that crop up in the score. I thought of this too! It’s actually a really fun approach to scoring and I’d be kinda down for a composer doing some modern version of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,993 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 47 minutes ago, Thor said: Bach: "Little Fugue" In G Minor Telemann: Concerto In D Major (Allegro) They are both arranged by Williams, according to the liner notes. Cool! I'll have to check that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,310 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I forgot about SOLARIS! thanks Thor!. Fantastic use of J.S. Also added THE NEW WORLD Fyi that " famous story" about AMADEUS. I've heard the SAME story attributed to every famous composer biopic. It's apocryphal!😁 15 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I thought of this too! It’s actually a really fun approach to scoring and I’d be kinda down for a composer doing some modern version of it. It's actually a pretty common facet of " Golden Age" scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,310 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 And there is of course the opposite way. In The Witches of Eastwick I personally would have prefered Williams' composition for the ballroom scene. 1 hour ago, Thor said: THE NUTCRACKER AND THE FOUR REALMS I almost hate what James Newton Howard did to Tschaikowski's wonderful ballet music. But it more or less in line with what the movie did to the story. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,993 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 Agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,133 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Thor said: THE BUTCHER BOY 2 hours ago, Thor said: DEATH AND THE MAIDEN This is an interesting case depending on which "type of use" we're talking about (I find existing classical music integrated into the original score much more interesting and relevant that when it's just copy pasted into the film's soundtrack). Kilar's score on album has a badass statement of the Schubert theme by the full orchestra as its climax, but the film doesn't use that, only the original Schubert as source music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,310 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Right. Btw I have BUTCHER. What's classical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,417 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 58 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: Right. Btw I have BUTCHER. What's classical? A fun variation on/deconstruction of "Für Elise" in "Pig Für Elise". bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 Just a week ago I was thinking about Alex North and his score for Prizzi's Honor, which uses various Italian composers like Rossini. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I hate them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,133 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Thor said: A fun variation on/deconstruction of "Für Elise" in "Pig Für Elise". And the titular song in The Francie Bradie Show. Traditional rather than classical, but close enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 1 hour ago, theBT said: I hate them all. Didn't take me long to guess who this was in spite of the name change. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,473 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I think Barry Lyndon and 2001 set the standard for how classical music could function as a proper dramatic score for entire films. Some other good examples Beethoven's 7th for the finale The King's Speech I Am Love has a fantastic score full of John Adams - specially great use of the Chairman dances as the main theme Melancholia uses Wagner's Tristan and Isolde prelude to absolutely magnificent effect specially in its unforgettable prologue Actually his last 3 films - Melancholia, Nymphomaniac and House That Jack Built all have fantastic and eclectic classical selections Some other good uses include Xerxes' Largo used in Clouds of Sils Maria Ave Maria in The Square Casta Diva in Lazzaro Felice Swan Lake in Of Gods and Men Lust Caution trailer has the best instrumental rendition of Ella giammai m'amò from Don Carlos that I ever heard. They should have just used this as the main theme of the movie despite Desplat's fine score. The use of Schubert's 3rd Impromptu as Amour's main theme is devastating The Favorite and Mysteries of Lisbon also had great classical soundtracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,306 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Bach + Tarkovsky = Magic And of course... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,310 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 24 minutes ago, KK said: Bach + Tarkovsky = Magic And of course... D Did you see my post above?! Another great one: RAGING BULL The opening scene of TREE OF LIFE made great use of Taverner ( unfortunately, the rest of the film was uninspired , musically) The opening scene of TREE OF LIFE made great use of Taverner ( unfortunately, the rest of the film was uninspired , musically) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,310 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 21 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: The last, I think. The one with cannons in its title. 1712 Overture by PDQ Bach? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,466 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 That Mozart clarinet concerto in Out of Africa, and that variation from Paganini in Somewhere in Time. And this favourite of mine: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,417 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 By the way, I've deliberately avoided all the references to the "Dies Irae" in a gazillion film scores, because then we would be here untill the end of time. That probably requires its own thread. I just remembered another favourite - NOSTRADAMUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,993 Posted October 5, 2020 Author Share Posted October 5, 2020 One can't have such a thread without mentioning @Marcus's fun adaptation of Mozart in his score to Upperdog! Marcus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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