Amer 1159 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 The Million dollar question is: is The Story of A Woman published for public domain? Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 4023 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 No idea, but if Williams has the option to 'boycott it', it can't be, can it? I know his boycott is in relation to the original soundtrack recording - which, according to Matessino - has been found and restored. I'm not sure if he has any clout over a re-recording, were one possible. Link to post Share on other sites
TownerFan 3175 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, GerateWohl said: I think in about 15 to 20 years the 60s stuff will become public domain and you can do what you like. I think for movie scores things might be a lot more complicated, because it's considered work for hire. The 70 years rule is not something set in stone for everything and also the legislation changes from country to country, as lot of copyright work can be renewed by heirs. Here's what the US office of copyright says: https://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-duration.html GerateWohl 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 19099 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, Thor said: which, according to Matessino - has been found and restored. Found, yes, restored, no. You only restore something if you're getting paid to do so because a commercial album has been licensed. You might have meant found and transferred, which is the case; we don't have to worry about the elements deteriorating because a perfect high res digital transfer of them now exists. However the next step of cleaning up the audio and figuring out the right take(s) to use to recreate the performance edits would not happen unless an album gets licensed. Link to post Share on other sites
mstrox 4215 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 It's my understanding that the Williams veto on Story of a Woman and Sugarland Express is based on respect for the composer, and not necessarily based on legaility. May be wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 19099 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, mstrox said: It's my understanding that the Williams veto on Story of a Woman and Sugarland Express is based on respect for the composer, and not necessarily based on legaility. May be wrong. You're exactly correct. Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 4023 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 11 minutes ago, mstrox said: It's my understanding that the Williams veto on Story of a Woman and Sugarland Express is based on respect for the composer, and not necessarily based on legaility. May be wrong. Damn them labels and their respect! Link to post Share on other sites
Holko 5497 Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Just now, Thor said: Damn them labels and their respect! Damn JW for being such an overly humble SOB! Link to post Share on other sites
Fabulin 2543 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 . Bayesian 1 Link to post Share on other sites
carlborg 221 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 The Force Awakens suite released on Spotify! https://www.facebook.com/236088363548029/posts/1036868600136664/ https://open.spotify.com/album/4sywzvWUWlGuCPrBgZtryH?si=0SrMpXeKTNORe8um7z8LEQ&utm_source=copy-link MaxTheHouseelf 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Fabulin 2543 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 . . . carlborg 1 Link to post Share on other sites
MaxTheHouseelf 65 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 ... and Youtube EDIT: Dammit @Fabulin Link to post Share on other sites
Fabulin 2543 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Too slow! MaxTheHouseelf 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 19099 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 How does this performance/recording compare to Lockhart's? Link to post Share on other sites
Fabulin 2543 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 23 minutes ago, Jay said: How does this performance/recording compare to Lockhart's? Favourably thus far. It has moments of sheer brilliance in terms of tempi and timings. Many spotty or strange moments compared to a Williams-led studio recording too, but overall it certainly has its own identity and charm. The sound is very lean, nearly sample-like sometimes. I guess some mixing choices are responsible for that. Brass is clearly not on the level of LSO, LA, or Vienna (is any section?) but again, the direction is very graceful, which animates the music despite all shortcomings. Miguel Andrade and carlborg 2 Link to post Share on other sites
bollemanneke 1808 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 But sitll not the concert ending in the finale. Link to post Share on other sites
carlborg 221 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Reinhold Friedrich belting out that title theme in the beginning of Scherzo. Amazing. Link to post Share on other sites
SilverTrumpet 177 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 I'm listening to the TFA suite right now. I didn't realize it was from this. It's really good so far. Doesn't drag, but its still a different enough performance from others to be interesting to listen to. Thumbs up so far. Looking forward to the rest. Link to post Share on other sites
carlborg 221 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Could hear so many things which I had never noticed/things that were buried in the mix in previous releases. I love it. Was so looking forward to this release before, now I can't wait. Fabulin 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 19099 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 15 minutes ago, carlborg said: Reinhold Friedrich belting out that title theme in the beginning of Scherzo. Amazing. What does this mean? Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Jurassic Shark 6567 Posted February 5 Popular Post Share Posted February 5 Reinhold Friedrich = German male MaxTheHouseelf, bollemanneke, Fabulin and 1 other 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites
SilverTrumpet 177 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 4 minutes ago, Jay said: What does this mean? Stand out performance of the Star Wars main theme part at the beginning of Scherzo for X-Wing on trumpet. Also, the Follow Me section of the end credits is on fire! It's even more exciting than the original recording! Man, Jedi Steps and Finale is so damn good. I never want to see those movies again, but hearing this track performed in any way brings me back to the good old days. It'll always be special to me. carlborg 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 19099 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 Oh, I understand now the Luke's theme part later in the track. I thought you were saying there was vocals before the music begins at the very start of the track Link to post Share on other sites
carlborg 221 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 It's just that I'm so excited that I get to hear Friedrich playing John Williams - and it's 2 cd's and including a solo piece! Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 19099 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 After hearing some of these TFA tracks I'm ever more excited for the set than I already was! Bring it on! carlborg 1 Link to post Share on other sites
carlborg 221 Posted February 5 Share Posted February 5 [Friedrich is the one playing first trumpet in all of the Abbado/Lucerne Festival Mahler symphonies recordings, amongst many other amazing career milestones] Link to post Share on other sites
King Mark 2674 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 isn't there a freaking track list for this? can we hope for unrecorded concert versions like Irina's theme or a new recording of The Rise of Skywalker or Han Solo and the Princess or it's gonna be the exact same boring track list as the other compilations (JP,Superman, Star Wars Main title, The Flying theme...) K.M. Who never heard of Reinhold Friedrich Bayesian 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 19099 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 They haven't announced the track list yet, no Link to post Share on other sites
Bespin 4450 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Just now, Jay said: They haven't announced the track list yet, no Star Wars, E.T., Schindler's List, Indiana Jones, ZZZzzz... Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 19099 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I dunno, those Force Awakens performances posted above are nothing to Zzzz at. Have you listened to them? carlborg 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Stu 10759 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 Just as long as the performances aren't embarrassingly amateurish like that Film Symphony Orchestra thing people went gaga for. Miguel Andrade and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Bespin 4450 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 15 minutes ago, Jay said: I dunno, those Force Awakens performances posted above are nothing to Zzzz at. Have you listened to them? Praguelish performances! Link to post Share on other sites
Jay 19099 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 You really think so? Link to post Share on other sites
Bespin 4450 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 16 minutes ago, Jay said: You really think so? The sound is good, but the conducting is too mannered in some passages, it lacks energy in others. I'm not sure. It's with interpretations like this that we realize John Williams's music is very complex and full of nuances. It must be a raw, young orchestra which can play everything (or anything). EDIT: The sequence between Jedi Steps and the Finale is catastrophic. It makes we want to listen to the brilliant Lockhart version of this suite instead. Link to post Share on other sites
bollemanneke 1808 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 50 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Just as long as the performances aren't embarrassingly amateurish like that Film Symphony Orchestra thing people went gaga for. But they have a lot of fun playing eveyrthing and the tempos are great. Link to post Share on other sites
Bespin 4450 Posted February 6 Share Posted February 6 I hope they have fun, if not I wonder why they do it! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Drew 281 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Enough TFA recordings. I wanna see more covers of TLJ and especially TROS. Poor TROS hasn't even gotten Prague treatment because of COVID I think. crumbs and Bayesian 2 Link to post Share on other sites
King Mark 2674 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 yeah there seem to be an overabundance of TFA recordings Will 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6567 Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 7 hours ago, Bespin said: I hope they have fun, if not I wonder why they do it! Money? Link to post Share on other sites
crocodile 5013 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 No, it's nothing new but I enjoy a slightly different type of a performance and recording. This sounds different than any other version. You can hear new details in orchestration that were not as apparent elsewhere. Karol carlborg and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6567 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Spot on! bollemanneke 1 Link to post Share on other sites
bollemanneke 1808 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Oh, God, release that tracklist already. Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6567 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 Regarding the polycarbonate shortage, I suggest to start recycling HanZ* CDs. *Mostly composed by someone else. bollemanneke 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 4023 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 On 2/7/2021 at 2:37 AM, Drew said: Enough TFA recordings. I wanna see more covers of TLJ and especially TROS. Poor TROS hasn't even gotten Prague treatment because of COVID I think. I'll take that one further -- enough STAR WARS already! filmmusic and crumbs 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Jurassic Shark 6567 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 57 minutes ago, Thor said: I'll take that one further -- enough STAR WARS already! You prefer Star Trek, eh? On 2/7/2021 at 2:37 AM, Drew said: Poor TROS hasn't even gotten Prague treatment That's actually a good thing. On 2/5/2021 at 8:49 PM, carlborg said: The Force Awakens suite released on Spotify! https://www.facebook.com/236088363548029/posts/1036868600136664/ https://open.spotify.com/album/4sywzvWUWlGuCPrBgZtryH?si=0SrMpXeKTNORe8um7z8LEQ&utm_source=copy-link I've finally listened to the TFA suite, and now I'm really looking forward to this release! I especially like the good tempos and raw brass sound. Not to mention the great timing and lack of flubs. Link to post Share on other sites
carlborg 221 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 3 hours ago, crocodile said: No, it's nothing new but I enjoy a slightly different type of a performance and recording. This sounds different than any other version. You can hear new details in orchestration that were not as apparent elsewhere. Karol If all the rest of the tracks are as revealing in terms of orchestration and other subtle nuances as these first 4 tracks, I think we are in for a very nice treat. Link to post Share on other sites
publicist 3871 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 What a waste of resources. Link to post Share on other sites
carlborg 221 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 https://www.facebook.com/236088363548029/posts/1038904063266451/ Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Jay 19099 Posted February 8 Popular Post Share Posted February 8 That says: Quote HAPPY BIRTHDAY, MAESTRO JOHN WILLIAMS! Today, film music legend John Williams celebrates his 89th birthday. We congratulate him and wish him the best of health! We celebrate his incomparable film music oeuvre with the 2-CD set «Spotlight on John Williams», to be released this spring on Prospero Classical – 100 minutes of fantastic film music composed by Williams and conducted by Kevin Griffiths. 100 minutes sounds nice! Jurassic Shark, Fabulin and bollemanneke 3 Link to post Share on other sites
igger6 381 Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I love that the Spotify Web Player knew to apply the lightsaber overlay to the now-playing graphic for this release as well. carlborg 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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