Popular Post SyncMan 314 Posted October 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 7, 2020 Select John Williams film scores are the features in this debut CD of the City Lights Symphony Orchestra from the Prospero Classical label to be released this winter. https://www.facebook.com/CityLightConcerts/ They are the orchestra that will present the world premiere ‘Superman’ L2P concert In Switzerland this January. Bayesian, Dr. Rick and crlbrg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Cool! What's the track list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyncMan 314 Posted October 7, 2020 Author Share Posted October 7, 2020 Your guess is as good as mine. If you look at that orchestra's Facebook page, you'll find that among the JW works for the CD will be Harry Potter and SW:TFA. Here's a video of them doing SW:TFA for that CD: Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,492 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Would it be unrealistic to hope for something other than the greatest hits/evergreens, for once? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,362 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Thor said: Would it be unrealistic to hope for something other than the greatest hits/evergreens, for once? Yes, I feel it would. The mention of sax and vibraphone suggests we’ll get some CMIYC, but that might well be as much of a lane departure as we’re likely to get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingPin 201 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 3 hours ago, Thor said: Would it be unrealistic to hope for something other than the greatest hits/evergreens, for once? I have a feeling it’s most likely going to be recordings of the commercially available Hal Leonard Signature Editions, which do have some, if only a few, of the “non-greatest hits” in the series. Mention of trumpet and clarinet suggests maybe Born on the Fourth of July, JFK, or Lincoln for the trumpet, and The Terminal for the clarinet. All of these are part of the Signature Edition series. I feel like anything recording that isn’t a part of this series would likely be some other arrangement, unless it was Williams himself conducting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 4 hours ago, Thor said: Would it be unrealistic to hope for something other than the greatest hits/evergreens, for once? YES. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 Complete score re-recordings including unreleased music... or just new useless compilations? Like I already stated: "I wonder how many time Schindler's List Theme can be re-recorded..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 12 hours ago, Thor said: Would it be unrealistic to hope for something other than the greatest hits/evergreens, for once? Yes. SW...SW...HP....JAWS....INDY... 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,492 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 3 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Yes. SW...SW...HP....JAWS....INDY... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 I'd settle for stuff like " E.T. and Me" or " Leaving Home". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 381 Posted October 8, 2020 Share Posted October 8, 2020 Reinhold Friedrich playing John Williams...now that's something I can look forward to! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 381 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158598184725575&id=706180574 Peek from inside the booth! Bayesian and SyncMan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,362 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 8 hours ago, carlborg said: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158598184725575&id=706180574 Peek from inside the booth! What were they practicing in that clip, I wonder? It sounded fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 245 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 6 hours ago, Bayesian said: What were they practicing in that clip, I wonder? It sounded fun! The Chamber of Secrets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 381 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 https://www.facebook.com/236088363548029/posts/972964033193788/ More updates! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,511 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Wow, double CD! And wow, no idea Presto Music did these things! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I knew that stage looked familiar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 381 Posted November 8, 2020 Share Posted November 8, 2020 https://www.facebook.com/236088363548029/posts/976951626128362/ More updates re. the booklet and liner notes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 381 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 SyncMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 Excited to see this series. Never heard of the orchestra before, but I am game for giving them a go. crlbrg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 It's a fairly new ensemble of Swiss-based musicians specializing in film repertoire and live-to-picture concerts. They will do the world premiere of Superman The Movie in Luzern next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Great news! I hope the recorded some ‘rarities’. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,492 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 3 hours ago, rough cut said: Great news! I hope the recorded some ‘rarities’. I doubt that. Unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SyncMan 314 Posted January 23, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2021 Due out in March 2021: https://www.facebook.com/CityLightConcerts/posts/1029199370903587 Quote In March, Prospero Classical will release the debut album of the City Light Symphony Orchestra! Together with renowned soloists such as Valentine Michaud, Reinhold Friedrich, and Paul Meyer, over 90 musicians of the City Light Symphony Orchestra have recorded outstanding compositions by Hollywood icon John Williams with great verve in the KKL Luzern. Conducted by Kevin Griffiths . More information about the CD will follow. Stay tuned! Dr. Rick, crumbs, crlbrg and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 On 11/3/2020 at 11:37 PM, bollemanneke said: Wow, double CD! And wow, no idea Presto Music did these things! How is Presto Music involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,354 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Probably it will be as usual two CDs filled with the common popular stuff and just one particular rarity. Like the Dudamel recording contained just the Adagio from Force Awakens or the Vienna recording the violin arrangement of The Witches of Eastwick. I find this quite annoying. But maybe this recording doesn't contain any film music? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 50 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: How is Presto Music involved? It isn't, I misread (Propsero/Presto). Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 If it’s one CD, I’d say the “greatest hits” will be predominant. If it’s two CDs, that does make it more likely that it contains a few hard-to find gems, or rarely recorded pieces, though. With double the run time, that opens up a whole lot of possibilities in terms of choices. But it seems to be one CD, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,354 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 On 11/3/2020 at 7:49 PM, carlborg said: https://www.facebook.com/236088363548029/posts/972964033193788/ This link here says 2-CD Set. Jurassic Shark and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 It's clearly a 2 CD set, they put "ONE" in giant letters on the first disc and disc 2 will probably say "TWO" on it Looking forward to getting a track list! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Haha, ok ok, sorry, I’ve clearly skimmed this. Good news, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrScratch 294 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I can’t wait for InTheCity’s review of this album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,096 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I hope they record Irina's Theme from Indy 4. or how aboyt 'Young Indys First Adventure' concert piece.-If they are going to do a live to film performance of Superman-I guess they can do a crisp job on this piece. Fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,354 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Or the clarinet concerto. At least they mentioned a clarinet soloist. But probably it is just again The Terminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Unsure if this is news in this thread but Valentine Michaud writes on his webpage that he performs the “Escapades” saxophone concerto from Catch me If You Can and the “Adventures of Tintin”. https://valentinemichaud.com/language/en/archives/3700 Abd you can hear an excerpt from “Fawkes The Phoenix” on City Light Concerts’ FB-page. https://m.facebook.com/CityLightConcerts/videos/spotlight-on-john-williams-city-light-symphony-orchestra-kkl-luzern/186009639927194/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TownerFan 4,983 Posted January 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 25, 2021 From what I've been told, it's mostly regular published versions, but they obtained permission to record a few things that aren't publicly out, like Slave Children Parade from Temple of Doom and the main titles from The Adventures of Tintin. Once, Amer, crumbs and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,354 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 34 minutes ago, TownerFan said: From what I've been told, it's mostly regular published versions, but they obtained permission to record a few things that aren't publicly out, like Slave Children Parade from Temple of Doom and the main titles from The Adventures of Tintin. Not publicly out? The slave children's Parade is in the Spielberg Boston Pops album and from the Tintin main titles I am quite sure there exists a recording as well. I am currently not fully sure if it was Boston Pops or Prague or something else. But I habe it somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 He's probably talking about the sheet music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: Not publicly out? The slave children's Parade is in the Spielberg Boston Pops album and from the Tintin main titles I am quite sure there exists a recording as well. I am currently not fully sure if it was Boston Pops or Prague or something else. But I habe it somewhere. They're not published, hence if you want to perform them you have to ask for permission to JW's management. Of course there are recordings conducted by others out there where they used unauthorized transcriptions of pieces not officially published, but this isn't the case (or at least it doesn't look like so). Will and GerateWohl 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,492 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I've always wanted to make a jazz album of Williams' rarer pieces from the 60s, if I had the money and resources. Alas, few are available as official sheet music, so I would have to ask someone else to transcribe something by ear -- like we did with CHECKMATE and "Mambone" from BACHELOR FLAT for our Oslo concert last year. But then this "dream" kinda evaporates when I think about getting permission from JW, and whatever costs are included not only in transcribing it, but royalties and such. I wonder how Terry Trotter approached all of this, for his STAR WARS jazz album on Varese. Does anyone know? Amer and bigjimwilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,354 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Ah sorry. I misunderstood you. With publishing you were talking of music sheets and I just thought of recordings. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 18 minutes ago, Thor said: I've always wanted to make a jazz album of Williams' rarer pieces from the 60s, if I had the money and resources. Alas, few are available as official sheet music, so I would have to ask someone else to transcribe something by ear -- like we did with CHECKMATE and "Mambone" from BACHELOR FLAT for our Oslo concert last year. But then this "dream" kinda evaporates when I think about getting permission from JW, and whatever costs are included not only in transcribing it, but royalties and such. I wonder how Terry Trotter approached all of this, for his STAR WARS jazz album on Varese. Does anyone know? It's different if we're talking about orchestral recordings vs. covers and reinterpretations. For the former, a lot of things in the past were done without actually granting a permission, like unpublished stuff that was recorded in many Silva Screen compilations with the City of Prague. There was a kind of grey area for many years in terms of permissions, royalties and rights etc. Anyway, JW and his publisher became much more in control of what is out there over the years and tried to prevent people using unauthorized transcriptions (i.e. things not published and/or approved by JW and Hal Leonard) when it comes to the orchestral versions. Piano/chamber/ensemble reductions are more tolerated and seen as the performer's right to interpret any kind of music. However, if you want to get things straight and nice, it's always better to grant some kind of official greenlight in any case. Once and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,492 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 That's true, except that in the case of the 60 jazz stuff, it's jazz to begin with. It's not a reduction from orchestra to jazz. Although it does apply to the Trotter album, of course. Maybe that's why he "got away with it" at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,354 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I think in about 15 to 20 years the 60s stuff will become public domain and you can do what you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,054 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 It's already public domain in many countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 57 minutes ago, Thor said: That's true, except that in the case of the 60 jazz stuff, it's jazz to begin with. It's not a reduction from orchestra to jazz. The main issue of performing stuff from the 60s is that there are no scores available, so if you want to recreate something you need to reconstruct it from the manuscripts. Some of the stuff is either in JW's possession or archived at JoAnn Kane Music Service, so it's very hard to get access to, but there are things that are probably lost. You might do a transcription by ear using the recordings available, but you have to be a really good arranger for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,492 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, TownerFan said: The main issue of performing stuff from the 60s is that there are no scores available, so if you want to recreate something you need to reconstruct it from the manuscripts. Some of the stuff is either in JW's possession or archived at JoAnn Kane Music Service, so it's very hard to get access to, but there are things that are probably lost. You might do a transcription by ear using the recordings available, but you have to be a really good arranger for that. Yes, that's what we did last year. We got Knut Avenstroup Haugen - an esteemed film composer here in Norway (most famous for his AGE OF CONAN scores) - to arrange the pieces from CHECKMATE and BACHELOR FLAT by ear, much like Leigh Philips did with THE SALAMANDER. It's a difficult process, though. And expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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