Popular Post Jay 37,323 Posted October 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2020 Quote Coming 10/27 http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8575 Ricard, Evanus, SteveMc and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Probably buggered up the dynamics, and the OST is one of the most dynamic VU moving recordings I've ever heard. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Oh wow! That's great! Isn't this a Holy Grail for Horner fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 OMG YES! I do wonder just how much was missing from the OST? I don't think much. Even so... I don't even own this one on CD! Tydirium and Faleel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 According to this post, there's one lengthy unreleased cue: http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=77622#p77622 mahler3 and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Strange as it is, I just read about one of the child voice actors yesterday, who was sadly a homicide victim at age 10. The girl voiced Ducky (Yep Yep Yep) Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 20 minutes ago, Jay said: According to this post, there's one lengthy unreleased cue: http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=77622#p77622 Interesting! Here's hoping to maybe a little more unreleased that maybe wasn't in the film? Then again, it was not a very long film... so likely not lol. Unless it was for some of the deleted scenes that we know happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 According to this post by solium, the one unreleased cue is 15 minutes long https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=141916&forumID=1&archive=0 crumbs and Edmilson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ymenard 54 Posted October 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2020 There could also be an instrumental version of "If We Hold On Together"! But seriously, I have never turned a volume knob up and down as much as listening to that score! Yavar Moradi, Henry Sítrónu, crumbs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 11 minutes ago, ymenard said: There could also be an instrumental version of "If We Hold On Together"! But seriously, I have never turned a volume knob up and down as much as listening to that score! You don't have to! Set it to the highest you can tolerate, let the loud bits peak there, and leave the volume button alone. Let the quiet bits be quiet as intended. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 I just envelope it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,990 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Amazing! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty95 558 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Another holy grail removed from the list. I can't wait for the tracklist! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Does Mike handle all of James Horner's scores? I remember he did Casper and Apollo 13 but not Titanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty95 558 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, crumbs said: Does Mike handle all of James Horner's scores? I remember he did Casper and Apollo 13 but not Titanic. Wasn't Titanic done by Mike as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Yes it was I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 I thought that was Neil S. Bulk. EDIT: Ah, it was both of them! Quote Produced by Mike Matessino and Neil S. Bulk, with the approval of the James Horner Estate and Lightstorm Entertainment, and mastered by Matessino from studio vault elements, this sumptuous, stellar-sounding reissue is limited to 5000 units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 3 hours ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: You don't have to! Set it to the highest you can tolerate, let the loud bits peak there, and leave the volume button alone. Let the quiet bits be quiet as intended. Or just screw your neighbors like @Marian Schedenig does with highly dynamic recordings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Heck, i could have bundled wotw with this one :/ just for the record...this is a lucasfilm co-produced film... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 32 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: Heck, i could have bundled wotw with this one :/ just for the record...this is a lucasfilm co-produced film... Yeah, mildly annoyed considering I only placed my order a few days ago. Ahh well, just gives me something to bundle with Monsignor and Alien when those are back in stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, crumbs said: Alien You're late. I love the fact that this and The Wind and the Lion are unlimited. If there were two Goldsmith scores that should be available at any point in history, it would be those two. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 TBH I always preferred Horner's Aliens to Goldsmith's Alien, even though I accept the latter is probably one of Goldsmith's best. Also a bit wary that the existing release is 13 years old; seems overdue for a fresh high-res transfer of the analogue elements. Mike could work wonders with that score using modern software. Realistically though, it's a Fox release, so unless something was in the works pre-Disney I don't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 16 minutes ago, crumbs said: TBH I always preferred Horner's Aliens to Goldsmith's Alien, even though I accept the latter is probably one of Goldsmith's best. 16 minutes ago, crumbs said: Also a bit wary that the existing release is 13 years old; seems overdue for a fresh high-res transfer of the analogue elements. Mike could work wonders with that score using modern software. The booklet says it came from a (then) newly found 1 inch multitrack. Unless they found 2 inch multitracks or something in the meantime, it's not going to sound better. But it still sounds pretty good as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Huh, nice. I remember a persistent rumour that LLL was going to do that one for their 2018 BF batch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty95 558 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 I wonder whether this will be a one or two-disc set Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 43 minutes ago, Holko said: The booklet says it came from a (then) newly found 1 inch multitrack. Unless they found 2 inch multitracks or something in the meantime, it's not going to sound better. But it still sounds pretty good as is. Didn't the 2019 LLL Poseidon Adventure use the same transfers as the 2010 LLL release? Mike went back to those transfers and remastered them from scratch using modern technology, and was able to improve the audio quality beyond what was possible in 2010. Theoretically he could do the same with Alien. And who knows whether those 2007 transfers were done in high resolution or whatever digital format was acceptable back in 2007. That said, I'm not sure whether the technology of audio transfers has improved substantially in the last decade. I know film transfers are substantially better now than 10 years ago, able to capture far more information off the camera negative. Wouldn't audio transfers be the same? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Great score, but I've ever only owned it in digital file format. Hopefully, this new release means that I can get the ol' OST CD to a cheap price -- if and when I decide to get it physically. That's an unexpected benefit of these expansions, I guess -- that people load off their old releases for people like me. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 9 hours ago, crumbs said: Does Mike handle all of James Horner's scores? I remember he did Casper and Apollo 13 but not Titanic. Concerning Intrada: On 5/27/2020 at 10:44 AM, Jay said: I don't know how Doug decides which Horner expansions to do himself, vs which ones he has Matessino do Produced by Doug Fake: Batteries Not Included Balto Clear and Present Danger Cocoon A Far Off Place Gorky Park The Rocketeer Troy Produced by Mike Matessino Apollo 13 An American Tail Legends of the Fall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Thanks @Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted October 24, 2020 Author Share Posted October 24, 2020 I guess Matessino will do all the Universal ones, regardless of label, due to his role there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Unfortunately 'Once Upon A Forest' is Fox, i much prefer that to the remaining Universal things. Though of course TLBT is cause for celebration, it's not 'Willow' in sophistication but probably Horner's most accomplished animation score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Call me novice, but I always wondered... when Horner did these long, suite-like tracks... ARE they all one take each? Or are they stitched together like how Williams does it? So if Barry The Bassoonist flubs a note in the last 10 seconds of the 10 minute suite, they have to redo the entire thing? Talk about pressure! Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 23 minutes ago, publicist said: Though of course TLBT is cause for celebration, it's not 'Willow' in sophistication but probably Horner's most accomplished animation score. Almost. I put AN AMERICAN TAIL in front ot it. But it's an easy second. I like plenty of other Horner animations, like BALTO, AN AMERICAN TAIL: FIEVEL GOES WEST, ONCE UPON A FOREST, WE'RE BACK: A DINOSAUR'S STORY, THE PAGEMASTER (if that counts) -- but those two are in a class of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,398 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 1 hour ago, scallenger said: Call me novice, but I always wondered... when Horner did these long, suite-like tracks... ARE they all one take each? Or are they stitched together like how Williams does it? So if Barry The Bassoonist flubs a note in the last 10 seconds of the 10 minute suite, they have to redo the entire thing? Talk about pressure! I think I read somewhere that Horner likes to record very long cues. There is some cues in his career that are over 11 minutes long, all recorded in one take. He wasn't like Williams, who liked to cut his long cues into smaller ones (Quidditch in HPPS, for instance). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 55 minutes ago, Edmilson said: I think I read somewhere that Horner likes to record very long cues. Yes, that's not exactly news. It's a trademark of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 54 Posted October 24, 2020 Share Posted October 24, 2020 Well you can start by hearing what happens during recording sessions, here are some "leaks" from Horner's Troy. Like most other score recordings, you will repeat and adjust for a certain time (depending on a lot of stuff, from budget to rewriting to adjusting to the current film cut), then record the final cut: Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alan 689 Posted October 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2020 Wow. This is a big one for me. The film meant a lot to me as a young boy. Not to get too involved or emotional about it, but I first saw The Land Before Time when I was around 5. My parents were divorcing and I was dealing with death for the first time in losing my grandfather. A film that centered around finding your family again was a bit of an anchor for a young Alan, and to this day I can barely get past the first few scenes with dry eyes. It was also one of the very first times I became aware of music and has remained one of my favourite scores ever since, despite never actually owning a copy of it. This will be a day one purchase for me and I'll have a box of tissues ready for when I listen to it for the first time. Mattris, Holko, Fancyarcher and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,323 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 That's a touching story. I've never seen this film or heard this score bit I'm getting the gist I should prepare for an emotional ride. Yavar Moradi and Alan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,398 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Here in Brazil this movie used to be a joke, due to its countless direct-to-video sequels that were constantly airing on both cable and broadcast TV. I remember as a child the TV annoucing "The Land Before Time Part 13" and finding that hilarious. Only as an adult that I found out that this movie is well regarded despite the sequels, mostly among film music fans. It has received a lame name here, "Em Busca do Vale Encantado" (Searching for the Enchanted Valley). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofDestiny 71 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I am crying. I've been waiting for it for my whole life. Bespin and jwalk713 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahler3 478 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 It’s a wonderful score and one that features the glorious golden era of Horner with the LSO. Mike M didn’t work on this, it’s a D. Fake production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 It's a cartoon. I never saw that movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, mahler3 said: It’s a wonderful score and one that features the glorious golden era of Horner with the LSO. Mike M didn’t work on this, it’s a D. Fake production. It's fake news. Kasey Kockroach, Gruesome Son of a Bitch and mahler3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 384 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Edmilson said: ...due to its countless direct-to-video sequels that were constantly airing on both cable and broadcast TV. I remember as a child the TV annoucing "The Land Before Time Part 13" and finding that hilarious. Yep, who could forget the "The Secret Of Saurus Rock" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,080 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Update from Doug at his Intrada page: http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/sc.13/category.60330/.f New for this coming week are two pretty big releases, both expanded and remastered editions of great James Horner and Jerry Goldsmith albums. The Land Before Time includes both major cues Horner dropped from the original MCA release, totaling 15 minutes of new music. The Last Castle offers the complete score plus alternates, and remains one of my Goldsmith favorites: military all the way, Malcolm McNab’s solo trumpet in the spotlight. Artwork, contents and sound samples should be posted here early in the week. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 18 hours ago, Bounty95 said: I wonder whether this will be a one or two-disc set Isnt the ost over 70 min long? Unless they drop the diana ross song (which i hope not) i dont think the unreleased 15 minutes fit there... This was the 1st film I remember watching in the cinema. Fond memories :') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: Isnt the ost over 70 min long? Unless they drop the diana ross song (which i hope not) i dont think the unreleased 15 minutes fit there... This was the 1st film I remember watching in the cinema. Fond memories :') It was 58 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,793 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 hour ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: It was 58 minutes. Oh, then it fits. Ironic horner the guy who beefed up his osts at maximum...left the score incomplete when it fit one cd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 This was still LP era. It was a miracle the album was as long as it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Another one of my Top 6 (sorry, couldn't narrow it down to 5) Horner scores gets the expanded treatment, after STII, STIII and Cocoon. That leaves just Willow and Glory. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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