Lewya 360 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 He went on to talk about why he likes Williams’ score for Close Encounters so much: "I think the tones of the instruments. When I was a child, I thought it was just synthesizers but it’s not… I don’t know why those particular sounds always stuck with me when I was a child. They’re relatively simple. The tuba is only one instrument but they make it sound so immense. The way that John Williams composes this piece is super modern as well. Melodically, I have no idea how he went about composing it, but the idea of one pattern being repeated and changed and then repeated and then changed… It’s happening a lot now in music. But he admitted he’s not really into the rest of Williams’ massive oeuvre of soundtrack work: "I’m allowed to be honest? I’m not a massive fan of John Williams except for this. Sorry. But then, to be fair, this is my ignorance coming out because I don’t really know much about… What I feel in a way sometimes happens with very successful soundtrack makers is that they get copied so much, that when you go back to the original work, you don’t appreciate it for what it is." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lewya said: I think the tones of the instruments. When I was a child, I thought it was just synthesizers but it’s not… So he likes actual instruments. Huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Has nothing to do with the topic, but Thom Yorke's score for Suspiria is brillantly disturbing (just like the movie) and it was actually created with a lot of instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 Well, at least he's honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 How do you know that? It's not like his name is Honest Thom or similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,633 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I really like cheeseburgers, but not other kinds of burgers. However, I must admit that I have not really ate many other kinds of burgers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,330 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Tom said: I really like cheeseburgers, but not other kinds of burgers. However, I must admit that I have not really ate many other kinds of burgers. But it could just be, I am used to all the other cheeseburger places, copying those other burgers, so I can't appreciate the original burgers for what they are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 There's this restaurant near my house called McDonalds, it's pretty good. I bought a double burger and a drink for only $11, the bread was a little stale but everything else was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,344 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Amount of fucks I have to give about Yorke's opinion of John Williams' work - none. Amount of them I have to give about whether Radiohead will ever do anything as good as The Bends and OK Computer again - quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,463 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Is the band still doing new stuff as a band (rather than solo work)? I believe their last studio album was in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,669 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 47 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said: Amount of fucks I have to give about Yorke's opinion of John Williams' work - none. If he says JW sucks, half the forum will take offence because he's being criticised in a public arena. Why else would there be a thread dedicated to pointing out celebrities who publicly praise him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 50 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said: Amount of fucks I have to give about Yorke's opinion of John Williams' work - none. Amount of them I have to give about whether Radiohead will ever do anything as good as The Bends and OK Computer again - quite a lot. I would rank both Kid A and In Rainbows above those two! Hail to the Thief is very underrated as well. But I have to admit they haven't been a Great Band since In Rainbows. Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Well, he has an experimental approach to Rock so it's no surprise that he's not much into Williams' safer, more old-fashioned scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Yes, it's really not surprising at all when these pop music iconoclasts don't care for John Williams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Both are writing great music. Both are fabulous artists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,643 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 It's okay, i really liked OK Computer, but don't really care much for other Radiohead! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 9,493 Posted October 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2020 46 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I would rank both Kid A and In Rainbows above those two! Hail to the Thief is very underrated as well. But I have to admit they haven't been a Great Band since In Rainbows. Agreed. One listen of IN RAINBOWS and it became my favourite Radiohead record, immediately. KID A is great, as well. Chewy, Disco Stu and GerateWohl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Considering he's the front man of one of the biggest, most respected bands of the last thirty years, people will take notice of and care about what Yorke has to say. I'm not massive on Radiohead, aside from the odd track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 And Thom Yorke created beautiful film music as well. And as far as I understood he didn't say that he actually dislikes Williams other work. He is just not that interested in it. But I consider him highly interested in music generally. So, probably he is also listening to a lot of other music. And why not? Chewy and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 I've found the opposite of what Yorke describes, If I hear something - particularly if it's something that you can stylistically discern is from Williams, or Goldsmith, or more recently with the Zimmerlings, I have a greater appreciation of the original, AND respect and understand what these descendants offer all the same. Yorke's allusion to the success of a particular sound becoming it's own worst enemy I think could also be a phenomenon of modern scoring wherein the 'spell' of the score is broken when it becomes a crutch rather than a vehicle for the story. When the spell is broken, you begin to anticipate the music and know instinctively what should or should not be there in a way that we've become conditioned to expect it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 I saw Radiohead live back in 1997, on the OK Computer tour. The setlist was: 1. Airbag 2. Karma Police 3. The Bends 4. Exit Music (For A Film) 5. Subterranean Homesick Alien 6. My Iron Lung 7. Talk Show Host 8. Paranoid Android 9. Let Down 10. Creep 11. Planet Telex 12. Climbing Up The Walls 13. Bullet Proof... I Wish I Was 14. Bones 15. Just 16. Fake Plastic Trees Encore: 17. Lucky 18. Banana Co. 19. No Surprises Encore 2: 20. You 21. Street Spirit (Fade Out) What a time to be alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 34 minutes ago, rough cut said: What a time to be alive. Yeah, when people just watched the band play and listened to the music instead of fliming the show with their mobile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 It was such a hassle to bring your cord phone back then. And it wouldn't even film! GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Not only that. Recording concerts, no matter how bad the recording quality was, was highly illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 I think literally everyone in the music industry (even Thom Yorke, even Brian Eno) admires John Williams as a composer (his talent, his knowledge), but not always the direction he has chosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Writing background music for movies! Pfff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 I wouldn't consider Thom Yorke a blockbuster or Hollywood fan. Maybe that's part of the issue. And John Williams is not so prominent for working on independent or Arthouse movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Thank god a once in a generation talent like Williams didn't choose a different direction. He'd probably be just another fine composer in relative obscurity, grossly unappreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,344 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 22 hours ago, Disco Stu said: I would rank both Kid A and In Rainbows above those two! Hail to the Thief is very underrated as well. But I have to admit they haven't been a Great Band since In Rainbows. I kinda drifted away after Kid A. The 'glitchy' electronica isn't really my thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Sweeping Strings said: I kinda drifted away after Kid A. The 'glitchy' electronica isn't really my thing. Listen to In Rainbows! Might not be so historically relevant. But is probably the best ... na, one of the best albums. Wonderful accoustic tracks. Like this! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 7 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Writing background music for movies! Pfff! No, staying in the safe zone, not taking artistic chances, always repeating himself, giving the people what they expect, never be surprising, ... I mean, that's nice for Star Wars fans who can't stand any change, but not everyone is like that. 3 hours ago, GerateWohl said: Listen to In Rainbows! Might not be so historically relevant. But is probably the best ... na, one of the best albums. Wonderful accoustic tracks. Like this! In Rainbows is probably their most accessible album too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, AC1 said: No, staying in the safe zone, not taking artistic chances, always repeating himself, giving the people what they expect, never be surprising, ... I mean, that's nice for Star Wars fans who can't stand any change, but not everyone is like that. Are you serious about John Williams did not take artistic chances in the past 43 years? Repeated himself? I think, there is hardly any composer in the world ever writing between 2 to 8 hours of music per year with so few repetition. Of course just the amount of output is no criterion for artistic quality. But neither is bring unpleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,624 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Who cares about the Radiohead guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 8 hours ago, GerateWohl said: I wouldn't consider Thom Yorke a blockbuster or Hollywood fan. Maybe that's part of the issue. And John Williams is not so prominent for working on independent or Arthouse movies. I wonder if he's heard Images. Or even the more avantgarde parts of Azkaban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,633 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, King Mark said: Who cares about the Radiohead guy I hear his head only receives AM signals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 4 hours ago, GerateWohl said: Listen to In Rainbows! Might not be so historically relevant. But is probably the best ... na, one of the best albums. Wonderful accoustic tracks. Like this! I agree here @Sweeping Strings. You really should give In Rainbows a shot. You might find a lot to like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: I wonder if he's heard [i]Images[/i]. Or even the more avantgarde parts of [i]Azkaban[/i]. Wowzers, did this new update finally disable legacy bbcode?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Jay said: Wowzers, did this new update finally disable legacy bbcode?? Yes. I noticed it yesterday, but it'll clearly take a while to get used to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Wow, I hadn't noticed yet. On desktop, you can use CTRL-I before and after to italicize. On mobile you have to click the I icon I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,172 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Yes, I immediately noticed that CTRL-I works fine as a state toggle (and not just for styling after typing), I just have to get used to it. I never post from mobile anyway (I hate touch typing, I even write 99% of my WhatsApp and SMS messages from the computer). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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