Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 49 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: For Citizen Kane, I highly recommend the recording on Chandos conducted by Ramon Gamba which I think edges the McNeely version and I think is more or less complete (it's a couple of minutes shorter but I don't know if that's just tempo variation or missing music). If it's not easy to get on CD, it's available for lossless download. If this isn't easy, I don't know what is. https://www.chandos.net/products/catalogue/CHAN 10577 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Opposite for me. Have usually regretted buying the expanded releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 9 hours ago, GerateWohl said: I regret not having purchased the Joel McNeely recordings of Bernard Herrmann's scores for North by Northwest, Citizen Kane and the rejected score for The Torn Curtain. Oh yes, McNeely's North by Northwest, too - as mentioned in that other thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,679 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 I was disappointed at having missed the promo of Young's The Tower that Intrada gave out with one of his scores, years ago. Conversely, retrospectively I had zero reasons to buy the expanded Eraser or Star Trek II, and Naked Gun and Medal of Honor get virtually no playtime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 55 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Naked Gun Dammit, I just purchased that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,679 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Don't take that as an overly negative connotation from me. It's a suberb release, it just took me a while to realise I don't need the entire scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 You mean the OSTs are sufficient? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,679 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Depends entirely on how much you like the scores. I merely realised a while after buying the set that it was too much music for me. You may love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 2, 2020 Author Share Posted November 2, 2020 I don't know, it was kind of an impulse purchase because I liked the scores in the film when watching them a gazillion years ago, and I wanted to give it a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 CHECKMATE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,282 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 4 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: If this isn't easy, I don't know what is. https://www.chandos.net/products/catalogue/CHAN 10577 In my defence, I wasn’t sure I should post a link else I would have done but thanks for doing so. It really is a great album! The other tracks on this album are well worth having too. Shame he hasn’t done more Herrmann really. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 I can't think of any reason you'd feel uncomfortable plopping in a link to any legal website on JWFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 17 minutes ago, Jay said: I can't think of any reason you'd feel uncomfortable plopping in a link to any legal website on JWFan Even porn sites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I don't know, it was kind of an impulse purchase because I liked the scores in the film when watching them a gazillion years ago, and I wanted to give it a try. Similar for me, except I didn't even remember the scores, just the main title. I still don't remember the scores, I should probably listen to them again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Similar for me, except I didn't even remember the scores, just the main title. Yeah, same here. 8 hours ago, Jay said: I can't think of any reason you'd feel uncomfortable plopping in a link to any legal website on JWFan Well, Chandos are notoriously infamous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,282 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Yeah, same here. Well, Chandos are notoriously infamous. Yeah. Chandos’ infamy. Haha. Anyway thank you for posting what I could not and hopefully some good Herrmann will be had by all. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 The Bremner take on Citizen Kane isn't bad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,282 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: The Bremner take on Citizen Kane isn't bad either. I didn’t know there was one? The same guy who did the Magnificent Seven recording? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: The Bremner take on Citizen Kane isn't bad either. I have that one (iTunes download), coupled with The Magnificent Ambersons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,087 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 20 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: I didn’t know there was one? The same guy who did the Magnificent Seven recording? No. That was done by James Sedares for THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN/ Koch label. He also did EL CID for the Koch label. Gamba, McNeely and Bremmer have done their versions of CITIZEN KANE. I think there is another verson conducted by LeRoy Holmes -which is considered to be a rather bad performance. And only availble on LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 31 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: I didn’t know there was one? The same guy who did the Magnificent Seven recording? No, he did the first Fitzpatrick Lawrence re-recording and the The Big Country re-recording. 24 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: The Magnificent Ambersons. How's this score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,087 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 37 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: The Magnificent Ambersons How's this score? A very good recording of the complete score as written by Herrmann but it judiciously cut down in the film that Herrmann had them forced to remove his name from the credits. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Amer said: A very good recording of the complete score as written by Herrmann but it judiciously cut down in the film that Herrmann had them forced to remove his name from the credits. So the recording is good, but is the score any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 44 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: So the recording is good, but is the score any good? RKO didn't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 RKO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: So the recording is good, but is the score any good? Dude, are you bwain dead?! it's Herrmann, so it's automatically worth listening to. I'll say that, again: its Bernard fucking Herrmann!!! Ps, RKO = RKO Pictures. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 IMO, there's a lot of boring Herrmann drama scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Huh, I've never heard of this Chandos place before - what is the controversy with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 Nothing. They're in fact an exemplary label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,336 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Then what is this referring to: 7 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Chandos are notoriously infamous. 5 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: Yeah. Chandos’ infamy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 It's a joke, which is made clear by the sarcasm smiley. Btw, they're British. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 Don't you "sarcasm smiley" me! I don't see any sarcasm smiley. Ps, I used to live in the town where Chandos is based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 That's why you left, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 I just remembered another one I missed: Grand Piano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,511 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: That's why you left, eh? Not really. 49 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I just remembered another one I missed: Grand Piano I prefer "Reed And Pipe Organ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: I prefer "Reed And Pipe Organ". You prefer "pipe organs", eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,282 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Nothing. They're in fact an exemplary label. They are indeed, lots of really great albums both classical and film music, especially their British film music releases. Sorry for the confusion with my British sense of humour... Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,117 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 On 11/2/2020 at 9:02 AM, Thor said: GOODBYE MR. CHIPS. Same. I don't even like it that much, but it's the only major film score I'm missing, which makes it infuriating in an OCD way. Secondary market prices seem abnormally high for a score that barely ever gets mentioned, and is an adaptation of Leslie Bricuisse, and not pure Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,282 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 7 hours ago, Amer said: No. That was done by James Sedares for THE MAGNIFICENT SEVEN/ Koch label. He also did EL CID for the Koch label. Gamba, McNeely and Bremmer have done their versions of CITIZEN KANE. I think there is another verson conducted by LeRoy Holmes -which is considered to be a rather bad performance. And only availble on LP. Thanks for the explanation! I have the Bremner Magnificent Ambersons, but not the Citizen Kane album. I think the current ones I have are good enough, unless this is really worth picking up? I'll have to give the Magnificent Ambersons another listen though, I don't know that one at all (but feel I ought to). Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hedji said: Same. I don't even like it that much, but it's the only major film score I'm missing, which makes it infuriating in an OCD way. Not owning it is the best way to fight your OCD. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,191 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said: I prefer "Reed And Pipe Organ". Glockenspiel! The "what's Chandos" talk reminded me of this: Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 3, 2020 Author Share Posted November 3, 2020 Nando's will be the name of my label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,117 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Not owning it is the best way to fight your OCD. You're not wrong, of course. There are other factors in my compartmentalization and completism for JW film scores... I stupidly never bought the Land of the Giants in any form, so I'm missing out on better music, just because it's not a film score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 I hated C&C releases back then too, and thought my LP-to-CD-R transfer of GOODBYE would be all I ever needed. But I have a rule that I need one good representation of each Williams title physically in my collection, preferably original. And the amount of original score in GOODBYE is about the same as, say, TOM SAWYER. So I really should have picked it up at the time. Lately, however, I have acquired it in digital file format, and created a playlist that includes the OST and a curated selection of the score cues on "disc 2". It will have to suffice untill that moment when I find it to an affordable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted November 3, 2020 Share Posted November 3, 2020 THE LONG GOODBYE MR. CHIPS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted November 4, 2020 Share Posted November 4, 2020 I never bought the Gerhardt recording of Star Wars, but I have TESB and ROTJ. I also never bought the Kojian recordings of The Star Wars Trilogy. Both kinda obvious omissions for a JW collector. Can’t really say they’re regrets though. More like conscious oversights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 4, 2020 Author Share Posted November 4, 2020 1 hour ago, rough cut said: Can’t really say they’re regrets though. More like conscious oversights. That comment belongs in the Conscious Oversights thread! rough cut 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 On 11/3/2020 at 8:36 PM, Thor said: But I have a rule that I need one good representation of each Williams title physically in my collection, preferably original. Get a used LP then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,490 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Get a used LP then. I would be interested in that, and finally throw away my ol' CD-R. But the LP doesn't have any of the score cuts. The ol' LP is not representative of Williams' score material for the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,051 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 OK, but that doesn't bother you in other OSTs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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