What do you think is Williams composing now?

[Jurassic Shark 12,027]

I love a good march.

[Marian Schedenig 8,172]

5 hours ago, GerateWohl said:

It is a march, and a march is for marching, and I habe a militaristic assiciation with marching. Can't help it. I know, you could say the same for the Raiders March. But there I habe the same assiciation. 

 

Complain about the Olympics opening ceremonies having the athletes match around the stadium then, not about Williams setting it to music.

[Tom Guernsey 2,280]

On 1/29/2021 at 8:58 AM, TownerFan said:

 

It's not a militaristic piece by any means. It's written in the ceremonial style of parades and "pomp-and-circumstance" compositions.

I had to listen to the Song for World Peace again as I didn't remember it being like the descriptions here and, having done so, found it much more hymnal and cerebral than anything approaching a march. OK, it's in a fairly square march time but it's much more serene and delicately scored for much of its running time. The striking thing about it for a film music fan is how much the four note motif that runs through it sounds like Rudy... (although I'm wondering if that's the Strauss reference and both JW and JG nicked it off Richard S?!)

[Jurassic Shark 12,027]

14 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said:

I had to listen to the Song for World Peace again as I didn't remember it being like the descriptions here and, having done so, found it much more hymnal and cerebral than anything approaching a march. OK, it's in a fairly square march time but it's much more serene and delicately scored for much of its running time. The striking thing about it for a film music fan is how much the four note motif that runs through it sounds like Rudy... (although I'm wondering if that's the Strauss reference and both JW and JG nicked it off Richard S?!)

 

I don't think anybody here described Song for World Peace as a march.

[Tom Guernsey 2,280]

1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

I don't think anybody here described Song for World Peace as a march.

It looked like that, but perhaps the reference was to the 1984 Olympic Theme not the Song for World Peace? If so, my bad.

[Marian Schedenig 8,172]

2 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said:

(although I'm wondering if that's the Strauss reference and both JW and JG nicked it off Richard S?!)

 

What Strauss piece would that be?

[Tom Guernsey 2,280]

26 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said:

 

What Strauss piece would that be?

Sure someone said there was a Strauss reference?

[Jurassic Shark 12,027]

Lied für den Weltfrieden

[Thor 7,465]

Regardless, we still need a recording of the ORIGINAL "Satelite Celebration", with the choir intact. The bootleg recording is basically unlistenable.

[Bespin 8,478]

We got an interresting conversation on Zoom, about what John Williams is writing now.

 

I wanted to say that: 1-He was stuck with Star Wars for the last years (and he's probably still, if they ask him to write other small themes for the SW universe, he'll probably do it, like for the Solo movie) and 2-He's stuck with Spielberg, who doesn't really make real good movies anymore. His star has lost a bit of his shine, let's be honest.

 

So I don't think John Williams will work on another movie project, I mean as the main composer.

 

Of course it would be wonderfull if a young director would ask him to write the music for his movie... I would absolutely love to hear the "Taxi Driver" of Williams... 

 

But honestly... who can afford John Williams in 2021? (financially and stylistically). 

 

That's the question.

[Jay 37,285]

Yes that was my point too.

 

You can't look at his frequent collaborators (directors) because most of them are dead or retired, except for Spielberg who has no announced films coming up and even if he did wouldn't start shooting until 2022 at the earlier.

 

Hollywood mostly makes huge blockbusters or low budget films these days.  The days of the middle budget films like your Sleepers or Presumed Innocent or whatever don't happen that much.

 

Small budget films can't afford Williams, and massive budget films might be happy to have him but I don't think he's interesting in doing.

 

I think we're more likely to get more concert works than film work out of him from now on

 

It'd be neat if he does a "Solo" style thing and writes a theme and some cues for someone else to finish up with.  Maybe one of the Star Wars spinoff shows, Indiana Jones 5, or some new franchise developing that happens to be based on some book he liked

[Tom 4,634]

I disagree on the small film issue.  I think if he really likes a project, like with the Book Thief (and maybe even Home Alone, back in the day), or a person he admires asks him, like with Dear Basketball, I think he would work at a reduced rate. At 89, a multi-millionaire, and a true artist, I cannot see money being an obstacle.  

[Bespin 8,478]

He can't say yes to everybody.

[KK 3,307]

I also doubt he's getting those kind of offers. If I was an indie filmmaker, Williams as a possibility would probably never cross my head.

[Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488]

Probably a big dump to take in the morning

[Fabulin 3,510]

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[Bespin 8,478]

"Rhapsody on a Theme of Obi-Wan Kenobi"

 

Sounds good!

[Jay 37,285]

14 hours ago, Tom said:

I disagree on the small film issue.  I think if he really likes a project, like with the Book Thief (and maybe even Home Alone, back in the day), or a person he admires asks him, like with Dear Basketball, I think he would work at a reduced rate. At 89, a multi-millionaire, and a true artist, I cannot see money being an obstacle.  

 

14 hours ago, Bespin said:

He can't say yes to everybody.

 

12 hours ago, KK said:

I also doubt he's getting those kind of offers. If I was an indie filmmaker, Williams as a possibility would probably never cross my head.

 

This is what I think, I think the small budget films don't even consider him a possibility.  The fact that Geisha, the Potters, and Book Thief are the only non-Spielberg, non-Star Wars scores he's done in 20 years are all because he had read the books first.  That's why I suggested we might only get another non-Spielberg score out of him if a book he already likes gets developed into a new movie

[Bespin 8,478]

It takes BALLS to think your movie or short movie IS GOOD ENOUGH, to dare to ask John Williams to score it... 

 

Tarantino offered a wonderfull gift to Morricone with Hateful 8... do you think... him and a guy like John?...

[Jay 37,285]

I don't think the Williams sound is one that Tarantino would want in his final movie

[mrbellamy 6,272]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

This is what I think, I think the small budget films don't even consider him a possibility.  The fact that Geisha, the Potters, and Book Thief are the only non-Spielberg, non-Star Wars scores he's done in 20 years are all because he had read the books first.  

 

I wouldn't put Harry Potter in that group. That has way more to do with an established director collaboration than his passion for reading. And he's been contradictory about whether he read them anyway (although I'm more inclined to trust his earlier comments at the time that he had already read the first one with his grandkids.)

 

1 hour ago, Bespin said:

It takes BALLS to think your movie or short movie IS GOOD ENOUGH, to dare to ask John Williams to score it... 

 

Tarantino offered a wonderfull gift to Morricone with Hateful 8... do you think... him and a guy like John?...

 

It really did basically take an anomaly like Kobe Bryant to be like "I'm making a short film, I only want John Williams" and have the stature to make that seem worthwhile to JW. And it did sound like JW even hesitated on that like "Oh I don't really do short films." Kobe and Anne-Sophie Mutter, the only ones who wouldn't take no for an answer.

 

Then again he gave permission to the Swiss Army Man guys to use the Jurassic Park theme as a plot device, that was about as weird a request as he could have gotten. Not that he had to put in any work for that but still.

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

He's scoring Quentin Tarantino's new Harry Potter movie

[Pawel P. 738]

Ok, that might seem like a slightly off topic question, but does anyone know if Williams has got a COVID-19 vaccine yet? I have no idea what it looks like in the US, but generally in most countries, the oldest ones get the vaccine first. And this could have a colossal impact on Williams' willingness to take on new challenges, such as writing and, above all, recording music for a potential film.

 

Or boarding a plane to conduct in Berlin in October

[Fabulin 3,510]

2 minutes ago, Pawel P. said:

Ok, that might seem like a slightly off topic question, but does anyone know if Williams has Got A COVID-19 Vaccine Yet? I have no idea what it looks like in the US, but generally in most countries, the oldest ones get the vaccine first. And this could have a colossal impact on Williams' willingness to take on new challenges, such as writing and, above all, recording music for a potential film. Or boarding a plane to conduct in Berlin in October

Vaccinations are prioritized according to age and risk. A portion of the California population can get vaccinated now, and the rest should have access by spring 2021. 

Every Californian can sign up or call (833) 422-4255 to see if it’s their turn to get the COVID-19 vaccine. If you’re not currently eligible, you can sign up to be notified when it’s your turn.

https://covid19.ca.gov/vaccines/#California's-vaccination-plan

[Bespin 8,478]

JW is maybe anti-vaccine!

[Fabulin 3,510]

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[Pawel P. 738]

3 minutes ago, Bespin said:

JW is maybe anti-vaccine!

 

I really doubt it. He doesn't seem like a conspiracy theorist or modern flat Earth follower to me. But I wouldn't like to start such a discussion here.

 

Personally, I believe Williams will make a few more films and one of them will be released this year. 

[Jurassic Shark 12,027]

Hopefully, he'll finally do a Star Wars film.

[Marian Schedenig 8,172]

1 hour ago, Pawel P. said:

Or boarding a plane to conduct in Berlin in October

 

At this point, I doubt regular international travel will be possible before the winter. *If* we're lucky, most European countries may have the pandemic somewhat under local control by then. But transatlantic flights? Unlikely.

[publicist 4,643]

4 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said:

But transatlantic flights? Unlikely.

 

What? You could and can fly all the time to whatever location.

[Marian Schedenig 8,172]

1 minute ago, publicist said:

What? You could and can fly all the time to whatever location.

 

Not without quarantine, in many cases. And the mutations are only just beginning to spread.

[KK 3,307]

Plus, with covid precautions, flights have become more miserable than ever. I have a hard time imagining an almost-90 year old Williams making that kind of trip out to Berlin.

[publicist 4,643]

7 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said:

Not without quarantine, in many cases. And the mutations are only just beginning to spread.

 

I was abroad two times in the past three months without quarantine, i. e. Berlin/Miami has none.

[GerateWohl 4,329]

Today in the news I heard, that here in Germany there was a Covid-19 break out in a nursing home. More than 10 people infected, all had been vaccinated twice.

But all just show mild symptoms. It's not over yet.

[Bespin 8,478]

Is this the coronavirus thread? I can't wait the authorities to confirm what we thought since the start, that this shit will need an annual vaccine, more or less efficient, exactly like the flu... 

[Marian Schedenig 8,172]

2 hours ago, Bespin said:

Is this the coronavirus thread? I can't wait the authorities to confirm what we thought since the start, that this shit will need an annual vaccine, more or less efficient, exactly like the flu... 

 

As long as there's a steady supply of vaccines and we don't get any major mutations, that's the least of my worries.

[Jay 37,285]

David Lynch is 75 and lives in LA and got the vaccine over the weekend at Dodger Stadium so I'd assume JW either already did or is on a list to get it soon

 

 

[Marian Schedenig 8,172]