Jay 37,287 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 ... and he's calling it "The Godfather Coda: The Death of Michael Corleone" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Well, THE COTTON CLUB turned out so well...😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Revisionist bullshit! And won't save the movie. Heck... wasn't this the same guy that made the original cut? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,903 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Wow, I'm interested. Godfather 1 and 2 are masterpieces. I never saw 3 because of the backlash so if he revised it, I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Karelm noooooooo!!! You were doing it right! Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Good for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Did he reshoot the Mary Corleone scenes with Winona Ryder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Just deepfake Sophia with Winona. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 When the forum page loaded for me, I read 'Francis Ford Coppola's gone...' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 383 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 For the record, I've never seen Part III, but a friend of mine wrote a humorous yet passionate defense of it: https://medium.com/@gvelez22/in-defense-of-the-godfather-part-iii-29fca8191432 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Arpy said: When the forum page loaded for me, I read 'Francis Ford Coppola's gone...' He's been gone for years. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Like his friend George Lucas, he peaked early.😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,465 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I far prefer APOCALYPSE NOW: REDUX over the original version, so this might be interesting. But I haven't seen the GODFATHER films in decades; for some reason, I've never been tempted to revisit them. Naïve Old Fart and karelm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTenma 116 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 The Godfather III is a fine movie, is not a masterpiece as the first two but is not a horrible movie by any means. I'm curious to see this new editing although I'm very sceptical seeing that in the trailer he tries to hide Sofia Coppola. I'm afraid this version is made to please the people complaining about her role (which, yeah, is not great but not the biggest problem in the movie). Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I mostly found the plot incomprehensible. The first two are easy to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTenma 116 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Big Man said: I mostly found the plot incomprehensible. The first two are easy to follow. Yes, the narration is not as clean as in the previous movies maybe because Puzo didn't write a sequel of his novel and he and Coppola wrote the script directly. And also the movie has some over the top moments as the helicopter scene... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Actually that was the best bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Apart from @DrTenma, I must be the only person who is genuinely looking forward to this film. Coppola always wanted a few extra months to fine tune the film, and to release it at Easter, 1991, but Paramount wanted a big Christmas 1990 movie, so... I hope that this is the version that he wanted to release, all along. As for the film itself: no, it's not as good as I, or II, but it's a lot more intelligent, and thoughtful, than most people think. The visual continuity is stunning, and there's a great support cast. Yes, it might have been better with Ryder, and Duval, but we've got the film that we've got. Vincent is headstrong, like his father, and poor old Connie still thinks that Fredo drowned. Oops. The scenes with the soon-to-be Pope, juxtaposed with Michael's confession to a dead Don Tomassino, are remarkable. No, Coppola couldn't act her way of a (very) wet paper bag, but it's Pacino's portrayal of a man who is, slowly, losing his soul, that makes III compelling. I will definitely watch it. Disco Stu and DrTenma 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I think the idea is interesting - to take a film widely regarded as a failure and start from scratch with the footage to come up with something else. Not just throwing in a few extra cutscenes on a hit film or whatever. Coppola hasn't made a good movie since the 1970s though, so it'll be what it'll be. I'm sure it'll move some copies though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 "...since the 70s"? So what's BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA, Mike? Chopped liver? Also, I love ONE FROM THE HEART. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 It's only a good movie if we all agree, Richard. (first rule of JWFan) Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Hmm. Let me explain in words of no more than two syllables: BOLLOCKS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Treason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,647 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 "In my opinion" was implied - certainly you all can disagree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,326 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 While perhaps not a home run, this one was certainly interesting. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I'm in several minds on this. On the one hand, I never asked for sequels to The Godfather to begin with, much less the meandering Part III. On the other hand, I do acknowledge there is a lot of merit to be found in it. Plus, its been a while since we've seen anything out of Francis Ford Coppola and while I agree his output since the 1970s had declined rapidly in quality, by god its still Francis Ford Coppola! So count me as mildly curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Anyone else like The Godfather Part III? Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Anyone else like The Godfather Part III? Never seen it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 It's pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I generally don't like the crime drama genre. But for sure there's a lot of merit in that movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 It's a very good operatic crime drama with a fantastic cast. It only looks weak when compared to the masterpieces that preceded it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Like I said, I didn't ask for sequels to The Godfather to begin with. So I'm not even that wild about Part II... But, as you said, it has a fantastic cast; its sumptously photographed, and is conceptually quite interesting as Michael's quest for absolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 17 hours ago, Jay said: The Death of Michael Corleone Spoiler alert! 12 hours ago, Corellian2019 said: For the record, I've never seen Part III, but a friend of mine has. And you still call him a friend?!? Corellian2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I actually like that. These movies in particular thrive on inevitibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Thor said: I far prefer APOCALYPSE NOW: REDUX over the original version, so this might be interesting. But I haven't seen the GODFATHER films in decades; for some reason, I've never been tempted to revisit them. That reminds me I bought them on sale on blu. 7 hours ago, DrTenma said: I'm afraid this version is made to please the people complaining about her role (which, yeah, is not great but not the biggest problem in the movie). What's wrong with her role? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 45 minutes ago, Chen G. said: So I'm not even that wild about Part II... It's better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I have zero interest in stories about bad men getting worse, which is what Part II is. Of course, a lot of crime dramas are like that; and its also what Vincent's story is in Part III. Not interested. The whole thing about the original The Godfather is that Michael doesn't want to be part of the family buisness: its the story of a good man being reduced to evil. A tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Chen G. said: I have zero interest in stories about bad men getting worse, which is what Part II is. It's just one part of a three-part story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Michael's tragedy is fully-wrought within The Godfather. He'd already become the crime lord that, in the beginning of the film, he didn't want to become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Yeah, I hate when that happens. Chen G. and mstrox 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Technically, Part III isn't a terribly good ending, either. A good ending to the series would have been the fall of Michael's entire organization. That that little arsehole Vincent doesn't get his own comeuppance in that film is inexcusable. Not that I'm calling for there to be a Godfather IV, god forbid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I was just thinking... he should do a fourth installment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 It was in talks before Puzzo died, I believe; with Coppola wanting to do just what I described as being missing from Part III. I don't think it'll ever happen, and its honestly better this way. Like I said, the character went full circle within the original film, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 There's always a new generation. ...and a previous one, like in Puzzo's prequel screenplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,943 Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 I think The Irishman thankfully finally killed the crime drama genre once and for all, so hopefully... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTenma 116 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 22 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: What's wrong with her role? I misspoke: is not her role but her acting, which is subpar to say the least. For me is one of the few cases of Coppola miss-casting a young actor/actress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,498 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Hee, hee, hee. Keanu Reeves, anyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 Any JWFanners watch this yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 If only PJ was so inclined to do something like this with The Hobbit. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,287 Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 He still could be some day in the future, you never know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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