Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 Sometimes the deepest questions seem the silliest at first. But I think we're finally getting somewhere, think about it. crlbrg and TSMefford 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,359 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 For the love of God.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 "I used to be." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,339 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I find it quite interesting that after beeing a very successful film composer over the last five decades that it took so long that John Williams seems to get within the last ten years the attention as musical artist and composer that he deserves even though when he is getting now honors, medals, prizes people keep mentioning not his most recent works, but his successes from the past. Weird in a way. But somehow that's how feuilleton works. When you open the arts section in the newspaper about 50% of the articles is about paying tribute to artists that just died, and often it is the first time they are mentioned in the paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,471 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 56 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: I find it quite interesting that after beeing a very successful film composer over the last five decades that it took so long that John Williams seems to get within the last ten years the attention as musical artist and composer that he deserves even though when he is getting now honors, medals, prizes people keep mentioning not his most recent works, but his successes from the past. Weird in a way. Williams was already a legend when I became a fan in the early 90s. So it's not some new phenomenon. But obviously, new forms of media have increased his exposure. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,339 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 35 minutes ago, Thor said: Williams was already a legend when I became a fan in the early 90s. So it's not some new phenomenon. But obviously, new forms of media have increased his exposure. I mean, he probably became a superstar with the star Wars soundtrack. But being a legend as a film composer or being an acknowledged artist also by critics and the classical music purists are still two different cups of tea. QuartalHarmony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steve 589 Posted November 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2020 What I find interesting is that Johnny is respected more among classical musicians/conductors than among classical music critics. Some of the most famous soloists and conductors have performed his music and have appreciated it. I think that is more important than critics writing good reviews about his works. Jurassic Shark, Remco, Joni Wiljami and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I think John Williams is the John Williams of our time, not his. Steve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 589 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 13 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I think John Williams is the John Williams of our time, not his. Exactly. As I wrote in the Bach topic. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 While the imagery of the films themselves over time becomes more and more just a memory of quaint entertainment, whenever I hear the music from the 1970s and 1980s, it is so apparent to me that Williams was the titular "A New Hope". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted November 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 26, 2020 And now, he's the last jedi. QuartalHarmony, Cerebral Cortex and Fabulin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Late 70s - early 80s was the John Williams of our time. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 7 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I think John Williams is the John Williams of our time, not his. So who's the John Williams of his time? New thread maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,174 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 Stephen Tobolowsky was the John Williams of the 90s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,393 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Oomoog the Ecstatic said: So who's the John Williams of his time? New thread maybe? Korngold? North? Herrmann? Rósza? There's a lot of candidates for the post of John Williams of John Willams' formative years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: Stephen Tobolowsky was the John Williams of the 90s. Bing again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,639 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 11 hours ago, Steve said: I think that is more important than critics writing good reviews about his works. Associated Press to critic: we are going to need a negative review of John Williams. Critic to AP: then you are going to need a better critic than me. AP to critic: I know, but they are all dead. Happy Thanksgiving. Remco and Steve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 13 hours ago, Steve said: What I find interesting is that Johnny is respected more among classical musicians/conductors than among classical music critics. Some of the most famous soloists and conductors have performed his music and have appreciated it. I think that is more important than critics writing good reviews about his works. This is 100% true and it shows how detached these ‘critics’ are from reality. And they’re part of the reason that we have difficulty filling the concert hall while the younger generation of musicians feel like they can’t do anything outside of the box because they’ve always been told what’s right and what’s not. Until you get very famous, so I’m happy for all the classical superstars that have played JW’s work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Edmilson said: There's a lot of candidates for the post of John Williams of John Willams' formative years. Really? I couldn't tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 542 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 There are a lot of candidates in this thread for 'which post made my head hurt and made me ask 'why why why?' the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,030 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 We need a poll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 My time... and I shall spend it how I choose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,903 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 John Williams is the Hans Zimmer of his time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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