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The biggest advantage of the asian countries that managed to get almost out of the pandemia is that they understand that the least this is a question about courage or bravery. I think, a pandemia

Okay, okay, okay, let’s finish this year in style!  

I'm starting to think that Drax created Bruce to replace Gruesome. 

"As of March 16, a total of 4,226 COVID-19 cases had been reported in the United States, with reports increasing to 500 or more cases per day beginning March 14."

 

Still in March:

 

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London’s Imperial College predicts millions to die from coronavirus pandemic in UK and US

 

“we predict there would still be in the order of 250,000 deaths in GB, and 1.1–1.2 million in the US.”

 

And yesterday...

 

Coronavirus updates: Global death toll climbs to 1.5 million; U.S. crosses 14 million infections

That's coming, that's coming. 

 

Experts: U.S. COVID-19 deaths could double by early 2021

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1 hour ago, Bespin said:

"As of March 16, a total of 4,226 COVID-19 cases had been reported in the United States, with reports increasing to 500 or more cases per day beginning March 14."

 

Still in March:

 

 

“we predict there would still be in the order of 250,000 deaths in GB, and 1.1–1.2 million in the US.”

 

And yesterday...

 

Coronavirus updates: Global death toll climbs to 1.5 million; U.S. crosses 14 million infections

That's coming, that's coming. 

 

Experts: U.S. COVID-19 deaths could double by early 2021


To be fair, death reporting is a bit loose these days. If you die of cancer and had to wait 10 minutes extra for your morphine, some places are calling it death by COVID.

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1 hour ago, BLUMENKOHL said:


To be fair, death reporting is a bit loose these days. If you die of cancer and had to wait 10 minutes extra for your morphine, some places are calling it death by COVID.

 

Dead by COVID, dead "with" COVID... They had it and they were contagious when they died, period.

 

Can we agree that anybody already physically sick is weakened by having COVID in Bonus, and that it surely worsen their vital pronostic?

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3 hours ago, Quintus said:

April is still incredibly quick (and not that long away). Only a few weeks ago top men were saying autumn at the earliest. 

If I knew that we were out of this crappy situation by April, I'd happily and patiently stay at home until that month has finally come. A surefire end of this madness on sight is all that people would need at this moment.

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1 hour ago, A. A. Ron said:


Typical conspiracy crap.


Notice how people who are full of shit automatically jump to pathologizing? “You’re a conspiracy theorist.”

 

No. Death certification is a shit show under the best of times. In the US, all that needs to happen for a death to be counted as COVID is whether COVID is entered on Part I (underlying) or Part II (contributor) on the form. With a patient with complex disease (most COVID deaths) it is difficult to properly categorize. So guess what happens...

 

Early on, COVID was undercounted. We can assume now it is over counted.

 

Welcome to the block list.

 

Cause of Block: COVID-19

Contributor: Brain matter being made of marshmallow

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1 hour ago, BLUMENKOHL said:

Notice how people who are full of shit automatically jump to pathologizing? “You’re a conspiracy theorist.”

 

You seem awful defensive for a person on the side of reason.

 

1 hour ago, BLUMENKOHL said:

Welcome to the block list.

 

Jesus, straight to DEFCON 1 because of a single comment. Well ok, have fun in your safe space!

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1 hour ago, BLUMENKOHL said:


Notice how people who are full of shit automatically jump to pathologizing? “You’re a conspiracy theorist.”

 

No. Death certification is a shit show under the best of times. In the US, all that needs to happen for a death to be counted as COVID is whether COVID is entered on Part I (underlying) or Part II (contributor) on the form. With a patient with complex disease (most COVID deaths) it is difficult to properly categorize. So guess what happens...

 

Early on, COVID was undercounted. We can assume now it is over counted.

 

Welcome to the block list.

 

Cause of Block: COVID-19

Contributor: Brain matter being made of marshmallow

 

In the UK literally any death within 28 days of a positive test is added to the Covid-19 death toll. Have a heart attack on the bog, suffer a stroke in the kitchen or finally lose a long battle with cancer: Covid-19 death statistic. Heck, get run over on your way home from the testing centre: coronavirus claims another victim.

 

These aren't conspiracy theories (not outlandish enough, amazingly) they are facts.

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8 hours ago, BLUMENKOHL said:


To be fair, death reporting is a bit loose these days. If you die of cancer and had to wait 10 minutes extra for your morphine, some places are calling it death by COVID.

Not to mention ALL these predictions of death tolls have been wrong.

7 hours ago, A. A. Ron said:

 


Notice how people who are full of shit automatically jump to pathologizing? “You’re a conspiracy theorist.”

 

 

 

So sick of that!

Everyone who uses that term is a person who has done ZERO research into the topic.

The make empty declarations and pass it off as ' knowledge'.

 

Fyi the term was invented by the CIA to discredit critics of the " Oswald acted alone "Warren Commision b.s.

There are still people out there who believe it and call skeptics - who have spent a lifetime researching it- c.t.

Check out the cover of the current ishh of PSYCHOLOGY TODAY ( Tin Man reads every issue😉)

 

Two months ago the experts predicted 400,000 Deaths by December.

 

Fauci initially predicted " millions of deaths".

Just shut up already with your predictions of doom.

Leave that up to the preachers .

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How could anybody think that?

I mean how could ANYBODY possibly believe that the President would , FALSELY, claim a foreign country was making " weapons of mass destruction" and threatening to use use them against US?!

And then, invade that country under false pretenses?

 

That kinda thing happened in Hitler's Germany; not HERE.

 

Take off your tin-foil hat you crazy conspiracy theorists.

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45 minutes ago, Quintus said:

To be fair, people should ideally at least start with it, "the science". Instead of just skipping it entirely, I mean, and literally making shit up and sounding like a fucking muppet on Facebook. 

Absolutely!

But, science is not infallible.

We were told DDT was harmless...AIDS was going to spread thru the heterosexual community ( " Name one!!!!" -  Sam Kinnison)....smoking is good for us....

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Telling people they have to wear masks outdoors is not " following the.science"

 

Telling us breathing fresh air thru a mask is healthy- NOT science!

Telling people it's " safe to attend a Trumpf rally"  without a mask is not science ( thankfully Tin Man doesn't believe in science 😆)

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3 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

Telling people they have to wear masks outdoors is not " following the.science"

 

Telling us breathing fresh air thru a mask is healthy- NOT science!

 

They've got a lot of people under the false impression that the virus is blowing through the air across the countryside like a bushfire.

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Just now, The Big Man said:

 

They've got a lot of people under the false impression that the virus is blowing across the countryside like a bushfire.

Tell me about it😵. It's not pollen you idiots!

The always- maskers aren't as smart as they think they are.

Just now, The Big Man said:

 

In Dolby Surround, where available 

Dolby Labs sued him for using their name.

Watch it!

A voice of reason - on the left!

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2 hours ago, The Big Man said:

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Remember when he used to be FUNNY?😞

" Nuclear power is safe. There is no chance of a meltdown"

-  A.  Scientist, P H.D.

2 hours ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said:

I see they've shut down SoCal again. This time, I'm unaffected. Great success!

" The happiest place on Earth"

8 hours ago, The Big Man said:

 

The word has been reduced to some kind of magic word that cannot be challenged or questioned, and authorities who use it aren't obliged to expand on their claim of "the science".

Why r u on Twitter?

You're Better than that!

 

 

 

 

Bespin,

 

COVID "cases" are simply people who TESTED positive.

Only a very small percentage are Ill or hospitalized.

 

Be at Peace and without fear.

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That's a pretty lame excuse.

I wouldn't be caught dead there and Jack Dorsey lives across the street!😛

 

 

Btw...

Is anybody else sick of turning on the news and hearing " "Another new record set  today for COVID .....blah blah blah"

 

Its the first time we have it so of course it's a " record". There is nothing to compare it to😵😡😠

I stopped l listening to the news except for, occasionally, BBC.

8 minutes ago, The Big Man said:

 

It is possible to read tweets without actually being a member of the website.

Damn!

I was going to sign.up just to read YOUR Twittering😉😅

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8 hours ago, The Big Man said:

 

That was written in April, during the peak of the feared first wave. There were loads of ridiculous scare reports like that then, I remember the BBC posted an irresponsible drivel piece (irresponsible because the genuinely frightened at risk parts of the populace consume their pieces as gospel and grow increasingly anxious and depressed as a result), reckoning that we "might never shake hands ever again." It was bloody nauseating. I mean, what an absolute load of shit. But people read that that crap though and swallow it. 

 

 

 

 

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The situation is actually critic in USA:

 

  • The United States reported a record 2,800 Covid deaths, the highest single-day death toll ever reported, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.
  • The country also reported more than 200,000 cases of the virus on Wednesday, the second highest daily number of cases, according to Hopkins data.
  • "The reality is December and January and February are going to be rough times," said CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield.

 

And I'm not proud of showing these numbers, because in Québec we have more death per capita than in USA.

 

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In absolute cases:

 

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8 hours ago, Quintus said:

That was written in April, during the peak of the feared first wave. There were loads of ridiculous scare reports like that then, I remember the BBC posted an irresponsible drivel piece (irresponsible because the genuinely frightened at risk parts of the populace consume their pieces as gospel and grow increasingly anxious and depressed as a result), reckoning that we "might never shake hands ever again." It was bloody nauseating. I mean, what an absolute load of shit. But people read that that crap though and swallow it. 

What do expect from the BBC?

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Indiana BESPIN and the TEMPLE OF DOOM

 

58 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

What do expect from the BBC?

FANTASTIC radio dramas for one thing.

The U.S. media is incapable of providing reliable coverage of overseas events. Middle East coverage is the absolute worst.

If you had our lousy source for news you'd appreciate the BBC.

 

Americans think US is the only country dealing with COVID

46 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said:

Dr. Who and some pretentious Royal Shakespeare Company programs taped on video.

They STILL haven't switched to film?!

😗😜😅 CHEAPSKATES!

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For anyone who cares, here's an article from the Scientific American that goes into how COVID numbers are actually counted and why they're more reliable than many people are saying.

 

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/debunking-the-false-claim-that-covid-death-counts-are-inflated/

 

21 hours ago, bruce marshall said:

So sick of that!

Everyone who uses that term is a person who has done ZERO research into the topic.

The make empty declarations and pass it off as ' knowledge'.

 

That's exactly what my anti-vaxxer coworker is always saying. "These aren't conspiracy theories! If you just do your own research, you'll realize that by taking these vaccines you're filling your body with all these horrible chemicals..." Talk about making an empty declaration.

 

I suppose I could answer your blanket statement about people who use the phrase "conspiracy theory" with one of my own -- Everyone who uses the phrase "do your own research" is someone who doesn't have a good research method of their own. Watching a 20 minutes video on YouTube, or searching Google for arguments that support the conclusion you wanted to draw in the first place isn't good research.

 

21 hours ago, bruce marshall said:

Fyi the term was invented by the CIA to discredit critics of the " Oswald acted alone "Warren Commision b.s.

There are still people out there who believe it and call skeptics - who have spent a lifetime researching it- c.t.

Check out the cover of the current ishh of PSYCHOLOGY TODAY ( Tin Man reads every issue😉data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAPABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw==data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAPABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw==)

 

This is itself a conspiracy theory with no basis in fact whatsoever. The phrase "conspiracy theory" has been used since the nineteenth century, and started being used the way it is today by 1909. Since you and others have defended skepticism of those in power, I will concede that yes, you would be foolish to trust everything you see on the news or hear from the government or read on Facebook, but that doesn't make fact checking a pointless endeavor. There truly are things we can know with certainty about this world and what goes on in it. Shouting "fake news" as some people like to do these days won't change the nature of reality.

 

https://skepticalinquirer.org/exclusive/nope-it-was-always-already-wrong/

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2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

DOCTOR WHO was using 16mm film, in the 60s.

 

 

 

I meant the biased, and in-the-pocket news coverage.

You and your minions always complain news is " biased" - unless it sticks to the party line.

It might to time to exile ANON to the Phantom Zone.

Sheesh!

 

American TV shot in 35mm . Very rare for a drama to be shot on video.

 

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