WampaRat 1,105 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 He’s responsible for so many that the average person on the street might know. But what are some non-Williams scores that have impacted pop culture than the general public might know? Ones I can think of: Psycho- shower scene. EVERYONE knows that bit. Even if they don’t know where it’s from. Magnificent Seven- Could be a stretch. They would know it’s a western at least. Pirates of the Caribbean - “He’s a Pirate” Probably the most recent theme to cement itself in the general movie-going public conscious. Good, Bad, and the Ugly - Main Title. It’s been parodied so many times. Most people would recognize this but might not know where it’s from. Rocky- Play that opening overture and everyone starts running up some stairs and doing push-ups;) What are some others? Smeltington and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,477 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Plenty in television, but let's keep that out of the equation. Also songs and classical music used in film. THE GREAT ESCAPE is popular on British football fields, at least. Also: CHARIOTS OF FIRE PINK PANTHER The JAMES BOND theme WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 Ah Yeah. Chariots of fire! I wonder if the amount of times a score has been parodied helps cement it in pop culture? James Bond of course is another that comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,477 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 The non-song version of "My Heart Will Go On" is another. It is, after all, a love theme written originally by Horner that just happens to be more popular in its Celine Dion version. But everyone would recognize it without vocals too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 384 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 "Now We Are Free" from Gladiator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,318 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 All the most recognizable have already been mentioned MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 Would the Inception “bwaaaaam” count? John Carpenter’s theme for HALLOWEEN. It just blows my mind that if we include Williams scores, he alone would practically increase the list by 50%! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,242 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 The Twilight Zone theme (if TV scores count) Mission: Impossible theme (also TV) I think even most non-nerds could identify both Courage's and Goldsmith's themes as Star Trek The main theme from Back to the Future I don't know if the average person would be able to identify where exactly it's from, but they'd probably recognize 'The Final Game', from Goldsmith's Rudy, because it gets played at sporting events pretty regularly, at least in the U.S. MrJosh and WampaRat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,394 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Titanic, LOTR, Bond, and, on the TV world, Game of Thrones. BrotherSound and WampaRat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,477 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Oh, if we're opening up for TV themes, the list would be long (albeit with some regional and age differences). WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,343 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Lovestory Avengers I am not sure if The Sting counts in as this is original music of Scott Joplin. WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,477 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, GerateWohl said: Lovestory Avengers Both are recognizable among the general public, but for two very different generations. One wouldn't recognize the other, and vice versa. Edmilson and WampaRat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 Ah “The Sting”. My mom had that one on vinyl and it got played pretty regularly. Good old Scott Joplin rags. Elfman’s Batman? The “sound” of 2008s Dark Knight might also be recognized. It’s just been used ad nauseum that they probably couldn’t say what it was from exactly. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Tara's Theme WampaRat and GerateWohl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 THE GODFATHER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 It's a very optimistic thread run by film music nerds who overestimate the recognizability of themes outside of their own generation and region. I wouldn't bet my money on a west-wide, cross-generational, high double digit recognizability of any themes other than Psycho and Bond - the former without source, the latter perhaps with. Chariots of Fire could be recognizable, but most wouldn't have guessed that there was any film behind it. Most people don't even know (the music of) Spielberg films or Star Wars. WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,477 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Albus Percival Wulfric said: It's a very optimistic thread run by film music nerds who overestimate the recognizability of themes outside of their own generation and region. Very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,343 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Pink Panther and Peter Gun. And at least in my generation probably everyone would recognize Born Free. And Doctor Schiwago! Mission Impossible maybe? And everyone recognize the harmonica from Once Upon a Time in the West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Godfather theme Star Trek TMP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 All the ones you find listed on the back of umpteen hundred movie soundtrack compilation CDs. The downtrodden and underestimated "general public" have basically been paying the wages of the Prague Phil for years. They know all the time-worn classics like we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 There is a reason why so many JW themes are recognizable . beyond his great talent. He uses song structure in his main titles: Fanfare Intro. A theme Chorus. B theme Bridge Bridge Finale In earlier eras these themes would often become big hits when lyrics were added . EXODUS ...DR. ZHIVAGO...LOVE STORY. WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 It's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,318 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 MrJosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 There was a hilarious bit on SNL where Bill Murray, playing a lounge singer added words to SW and VE3K; " Star Wars, those near and far wars, if they could bar wars..." " The first encounter..." 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 I thought The Terminator theme was recognizable enough to the general public, but I played it the other day on a synthesizer around some folks in their 40s and 50s and none knew what it was....so I guess not The Terminator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 HALLOWEEN is probably recognized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Moon River Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,343 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, gkgyver said: Moon River This is a song. Songs don't count. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,394 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Anyone mentioned The X-Files? It has an iconic, beloved theme, that became synonimous with alien investigations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,343 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 In general I wonder why from the so called golden era there are hardly popular tunes in film scores apart from songs that everybody recognizes. Gone with the Wind might be an exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 GWTW wasn't lyricized. UNCHAINED begot " Unchained Melody" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,477 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: In general I wonder why from the so called golden era there are hardly popular tunes in film scores apart from songs that everybody recognizes. Gone with the Wind might be an exception. Well, there's "Do Not Forsake Me, Oh My Darling" from HIGH NOON at the tailend of the Golden Age, which became a huge hit at the time. I doubt many know of its origin today, or even back then, for that matter -- but it's generally considered the first film song with massive crossover effect. Same is true, although to a lesser extent, with David Raksin's theme song from LAURA (1944). To say nothing of THE WIZARD OF OZ! So there were popular film tunes back then that practically everybody recognized, and that got air time on the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 HIGH NOON is generally considered the first non-musical to feature a bespoke song used for dramatic effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Oh, come on, we don't care about "general public"! WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Early Hollywood sound films are filled with contemporary pop tunes. CYRMM was written to be sung. Did JW collaborate with a lyricist or were lyrics added after Williams had left? Did a real singer ever record I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,343 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 As I wrote, songs of course worked always well. But score apart from instrumentals of songs seem not to have become popular tunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 . bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Most of the hits were in some way associated with a song as I mentioned. GBU is a rare purely instrumental hit. " Pink Panther" " Baby Elephant walk" we're hits I think many folks would still recognize PP In the 60s soundtracks like WSS and SOM sold more than pop stars like the BEATLES. It was an ADULT market. In the 70 s it switched to a youth audience with rock and disco scores and then , of course SW changed things again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, GerateWohl said: This is a song. Songs don't count. It's really not. It's written for and performed in the film, as well as incorporated into the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Edmilson said: Anyone mentioned The X-Files? It has an iconic, beloved theme, that became synonimous with alien investigations. Thats a good one. The tv title song vanished soon after when commercial overload reduced the running time to forty minutes.:( 3 hours ago, bruce marshall said: There was a hilarious bit on SNL where Bill Murray, playing a lounge singer added words to SW and VE3K; " Star Wars, those near and far wars, if they could bar wars..." " The first encounter..." 😅 If you don't want to hear his dynamic rendition of " 2001,, skip to 6:00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csista 13 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Definitely: Titanic Good Bad And The Ugly Rocky Halloween Potentially: Godfather Terminator Back To The Future Forrest Gump Braveheart Friday The 13th Gone With The Wind Psycho Beverly Hills Cop Chariots Of Fire Avengers Mission Impossible I think a lot of it comes down to your generation. For instance, Gen X would definitely know Police Academy, but would Millennials? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,477 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I'm surprised so many of you pick HALLOWEEN. I mean, it's a famous theme, no doubt, but no chance in hell it would be recognized by any of my friends who are not into films. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 The Flintstones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Ok, I have one. WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 17 hours ago, The Big Man said: The Flintstones Thats a song AND a television show. Obey the rules! On 12/3/2020 at 12:10 PM, bruce marshall said: There was a hilarious bit on SNL where Bill Murray, playing a lounge singer added words to SW and VE3K; " Star Wars, those near and far wars, if they could bar wars..." " The first encounter..." 😅 I embedded the clip but it vanished! ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 I guess it depends on which movies you’ve seen. And even then, there are some movies you guys have mentioned which I have seen but can’t for the life of me remember the theme. The only ones mentioned in this thread that I could immediately call to memory are: James Bond Gone with the Wind (Tara) The Lord of the Rings (Fellowship + Shire) Star Trek TMP (but for the longest time I associated it with TNG) Mission Impossible - but that’s from TV Sleeping Beauty - but that‘s from ballet - and DIsney songified it Other Disney themes? Most are songs, but not all. How about Robin Hood 1938? No clue how many people know it, but it was a staple in our house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oomoog the Ecstatic 314 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Though why limit it to movies? In video games there's a melodic genius by the name of Nobuo Uematsu. Kind of Uematsu-esque, I always thought the choir of just V - V - iv, V - V - iv in 13th Warrior was incredibly catchy as a main theme or hook people remember in a movie, it just never became popular. Nothing people would sing or anything, just something they would remember. I mean that's just as catchy as duel of fates lol, just way more efficient. Then I think people easily recognize the score of this film: @bruce marshallU need to study more Uematsu, my friend. bruce marshall and Jay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 I agree about TLK - good call! I need to rewatch that . Fantastic film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Stay umami, Bruce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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