WampaRat 1,105 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Mr Powell has been killing it this year with releases on his own private label. What’s the next expansion of his scores you hope for OTHER than the remaining two Dragons scores? Personally I’d love for an expanded X-Men: The Last Stand. Perhaps Paycheck. And The Road to El Dorado has been a personal favorite of mine since that film came out. His “Save El Dorado” cue is just a flat-out swashbuckling blast of Powell fun Yavar Moradi and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 X-Men would have been nice. But I doubt it will happen as the score was recorded in LA in 2006. Chicken Run would be good. Karol Yavar Moradi and TSMefford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Chicken Run!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanus 217 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I'd also love his first three Bourne scores expanded. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just now, Evanus said: I'd also love his first three Bourne scores expanded. I'd buy those too. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, WampaRat said: Mr Powell has been killing it this year with releases on his own private label. What do you mean? Only Solo: Deluxe Edition came out on his own label. Call of the Wild was Hollywood Records, Forces of Nature was La-La Land, and HTTYD Deluxe was Varese 11 minutes ago, WampaRat said: What’s the next expansion of his scores you hope for OTHER than the remaining two Dragons scores? Chicken Run or the Bournes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jay said: What do you mean? Only Solo: Deluxe Edition came out on his own label. Call of the Wild was Hollywood Records, Forces of Nature was La-La Land, and HTTYD Deluxe was Varese Chicken Run or the Bournes What about the piano suites? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Aren't those some other guy playing Powell's music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jay said: Aren't those some other guy playing Powell's music? And solo has cues credited to that same guy so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 The “Other guy” is Batu Sener. Richard Penna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 512 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Well we will soon find out. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Huh. Could be anything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 X-Men: The Last Stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 The other 2 Dragon scores. I know the thread says not to, but it has to be said once more just to make sure it happens, by golly! Okay FINE... did all the music to the first Shrek get released? That was the first score that brought my attention to him, despite it being a joint effort with Harry Gregson-Williams. However, I can totally feel which parts were Powell. When I first heard Narnia: Lion, Witch, Wardrobe was going to be done by Gregson-Williams, I was hoping for that sound they did in Shrek. While I like that score, I felt like it didn't have some of those qualities I liked from when he did that score, and assumed maybe that part of his style was Powell. Sure enough, when the first How To Train Your Dragon score happened, THAT was the sound I was looking for. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I'd buy anything he puts out, but his best scores that still have a substantial amount of unreleased music (and ignoring the fact many are available through other means...) are... The Bourne Identity The Adventures Of Pluto Nash Paycheck The Bourne Supremacy Mr. & Mrs. Smith X-Men: The Last Stand How To Train Your Dragon 2 Pan How To Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 @BloodBoal hopes it is Pan! Out of all your options most of the post 2005 LA recorded ones are presumably off the table, though you never know (exceptions were made for Giacchino's Trek expansion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I haven't really like anything from him except Solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 Was there a ton of unreleased music from Pan? (I had the misfortune of sitting through that movie once and have tried to wipe it from my memory so I could enjoy the score by itself;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Bourne 1-3 Mr. and Mrs. Smith The Italian Job Ferdinand Road to El Dorado (with Zimmer) Kung Fu Panda 1-2 (with Zimmer) Chicken Run (with HGW) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 14 minutes ago, WampaRat said: Was there a ton of unreleased music from Pan? Bloodboal posted this On 10/21/2015 at 4:55 PM, BloodBoal said: There's a lot of unreleased material in the first half of the film, not so much in the second half. Most of it is basically quieter material (the unreleased action material is mostly short bits that were microedited here and there in tracks on the album), which is quite nice and helps the score breathe a bit. Recording sessions leak, please! Tried to pay attention to what each theme was supposed to represent, and I have to say it's not very clear. Here's how it goes: - The main theme (introduced at the very beginning of the score in Opening Overture), which I originally thought was Peter's theme, is actually used interchangeably for both Peter and Hook. Actually, I think it's more often used for Hook than for Peter, which even led me to wonder if the characters didn't each have a theme, with both themes sounding very similar to one another. Frankly, if the theme didn't open the score, and appeared a few times before Peter met Hook, I would have definitely think this was Hook's theme! It often plays when he's performing heroics. - The other major thematic idea (introduced in the second half of Opening Overture, and which gets its first major rendition in Floating - Neverland Ahoy!), which I thought was a theme for Neverland or possibly a flying theme seems to be neither. It's used in very different contexts, and never seems to be linked to anything specific. *Maybe* this is actually Peter's theme, but I'm not sure of that. - Then there's the theme introduced in Air Raid / Office Raid (I didn't noticed that theme first appeared here) that later gets two big renditions in Kidnapped / Galleon Dog Fight. It's not Blackbeard's theme, but a theme for his pirates. - Following this is Blackbeard's theme, first heard in Inverted Galleon and later in Flying Ship Fight. I actually thought that one was the same as the pirates' theme (which I thought was Blackbeard's theme. Get it? ), just a different variation of it, but it's not. Interestingly, the first time this theme is used, it's not directly linked to Blackbeard. But during the climax, it definitely is. - Finally, the theme heard prominently in A Warrior's Fate (it appears quite a few times before that in more subdued renditions (at the beginning of Origin Story for example), or more subtle disguise (at 01:11 in Pirates Vs Natives Vs Heroes Vs Chickens) then also in Flying Ship Fight) is a theme for the Fairies. And that's all the themes I could notice in the score (thought I think there might be one or two more in there, though minor ones). Now, that being said, and going back to the interview where Powell stated that he generally doesn't use themes specifically for characters, locations, etc., but rather prefers to use whichever theme he thinks works best for the scene (or something like that), I'd say this is true here too. At least for the two major thematic ideas, and maybe even the Fairies theme (I think that one is used a few times during moments which have nothing to do with the Fairies, though more often than not, it is used for the Fairies). A few other random notes: - The unreleased material didn't feature any other theme, at least none that I could notice, so no theme for Tiger Lily. - The OST is 100% in chronological order. - Kidnapped - Galleon Dog Fight is supposed to segue directly into Floating - Neverland Ahoy! - The score really gets to shine in the film. Hadn't heard (good) film music so much in the forefront in a while. Yavar Moradi and WampaRat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted December 5, 2020 Author Share Posted December 5, 2020 Oh wow! Thanks. That’s the most I’ve ever seen someone go into depth on that score. I just recall a lot of people thinking it was just left overs HTTYD 2, shrugging, and moving on when it originally came out. But I really enjoyed it. I think particularly in tracks like “murmurs of love and death” he started tapping into some really interesting sounds that hadn’t been heard yet (from Powell) in his larger fantasy scores. Fingers crossed we get an expanded release. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 I'd love an X-Men 3, I really dig that score. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Any of the Kung Fu Pandas. Faleel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Loert said: Any of the Kung Fu Pandas. He only did 1 and quit while working on 2 IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,427 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Road to El Dorado NEEDS to be expanded, as the OST is pretty lame and focuses only on the Elton John songs. I love the main theme, it's so swashbuckling and fun! WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 50 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Road to El Dorado NEEDS to be expanded, as the OST is pretty lame and focuses only on the Elton John songs. I love the main theme, it's so swashbuckling and fun! I’ve been wanting a proper release of this score for years. There’s a lot to juggle because of Elton John’s involvement. Hopefully it’ll come out one day. Powell just said on Facebook that The Hidden Worlds will be expanded, but not anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,345 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Koray Savas said: Powell just said on Facebook that The Hidden Worlds will be expanded, but not anytime soon. 2029 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 I want him to record a concert suite of HTTYD!😊 Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,053 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 11 hours ago, crocodile said: Chicken Run would be good. Karol 11 hours ago, Spider-Fal said: Chicken Run!!! 11 hours ago, Jay said: Chicken Run 8 hours ago, A. A. Ron said: Chicken Run (with HGW) TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,282 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 2:38 AM, Koray Savas said: I’ve been wanting a proper release of this score for years. There’s a lot to juggle because of Elton John’s involvement. Hopefully it’ll come out one day. Powell just said on Facebook that The Hidden Worlds will be expanded, but not anytime soon. I don’t think there’s a massive amount missing from The Hidden World although I would buy an expanded edition in any event. Same for HTTYD2 really. I think every time I listen to The Hidden World I like it more (having originally been slightly disappointed. Not sure what I was thinking!). The Furies in Love are 3 of the greatest minutes he’s ever written. Exquisite into soaring and the kind of film music that transcends the film. But at least it’s on the album! On 12/5/2020 at 4:00 AM, bruce marshall said: I want him to record a concert suite of HTTYD!😊 Agreed and some of his other scores. One of those Ghent compilations would be great (like the Beltrami and Burwell ones). I think my pick would go to Road to Eldorado. Maid of his scores are worth hearing in full but this is the most lacking on the existing album but is terrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Years ago he was planning to record an album of suites, but I'm not sure if anything materialised. It would be great if it turned out to be this, but I imagine it's unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,282 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 9 hours ago, Anthony said: Years ago he was planning to record an album of suites, but I'm not sure if anything materialised. It would be great if it turned out to be this, but I imagine it's unlikely. I remain hopeful... some film suites could well as a complement to a recording of a shorter concert work, such as the overture I saw performed by the (I think) Sussex Youth Orchestra a couple of years ago, which would make a nice opener. A bit like the recent Desplat Airlines album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,427 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Powell is teasing another album before the end of the year: https://www.facebook.com/johnpowellmusic/posts/2764410773782207 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 That's 2 teases, yet no new info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Not many days in the year left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,683 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Exactly what I was literally just typing when you replied... He could have revisited HTTYD 2 when he did the first one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted December 16, 2020 Author Share Posted December 16, 2020 Powell likes to play with our expectations. Remember when he didn’t post the expanded Solo track list on the exact time we thought he would? People lost their minds! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,282 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 If he does release another album prior to the end of the year, I assume it would be a re-release rather than whatever he's working on currently. Having said that, sounds like this new score is keeping him pretty busy (mainly with rewrites it seems!). NP: Gigli by... John Powell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 What new score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,342 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 Is HTTYD2 an option? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,282 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Anthony said: What new score? See my earlier post. He did an online masterclass and said he was working on a new score... guessed to be Lockdown for Doug Liman but not confirmed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted December 17, 2020 Share Posted December 17, 2020 9 hours ago, Anthony said: What new score? https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/16073-john-powell-kicks-ass/&do=findComment&comment=1766884 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,340 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 It seems Powell is taking requests Quote Thanks for listening to the deluxe editions of Solo: A Star Wars Story and How to Train Your Dragon! What other scores would you wish get ‘deluxe edition’ed? https://www.facebook.com/johnpowellmusic/posts/2767410450148906 Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 On 12/10/2020 at 9:25 AM, Anthony said: Years ago he was planning to record an album of suites, but I'm not sure if anything materialised. It would be great if it turned out to be this, but I imagine it's unlikely. And yet... That's exactly what just went live on Spotify. Now THERE'S a nice Christmas present! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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