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Listening to GBU.....

The GDM sounds a bit ' worse' on the mono tracks. They stick out because they are louder and you might have to adjust the volume.

The EMI integrates them better and reduces hiss.

Really, if you have these two you're set.

I'm grateful ENNIO programmed them. Otherwise we would have gotten another " collection of cues". Like this New version

18 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

They're able to do get rid of wobbling with today's technology, at least to some extent.

 

 

I know. Plus different instrument in one track.

Read my article , dammitt!

On 12/8/2020 at 12:24 PM, Brundlefly said:

Hopefully, Quartet will get to do the Dollars scores too.

Chris Malone just winked!

On 12/8/2020 at 7:40 AM, Jay said:

We have to accept that this hobby of ours gets more expensive every year

As long as they keep putting it on CD I will suffer in silence😁

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So, what is on here?   As it was said on FSM, the recordings were first mixed to 3-track, then mono for film use and stereo for album use. The mono sessions and original stereo album masters

Quartet Records, in collaboration with Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer, Capitol Records and Universal Music Enterprises, is proud to present a mammoth 3-CD expanded edition of Ennio Morricone’s iconic score for t

On 12/18/2020 at 5:41 PM, bruce marshall said:

The presentation of the complete score is a DISASTER.

Forty three effing cues!

Look at how carefully EM combined short cues on.the GDM expansion compared to this " collection of cues".

The least they could have done is preserve his concept.

 

They did this on Papillon too. Too many itty bitty tracks.

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I'm finding it easier to understand what Thor wants these days, than understand what Bruce wants.

 

I mean, most expansions boil down to being a collection of cues, with the occasional cue switched, and shorter cues joined, but the overall effect when you play the release from start to finish is the same.

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Personally, I don't really care if the cues are separated or joined. I press play and listen from start to finish regardless, and I'm not really a "cue lover". So it's the same whether they are joined in super-long suites (like in Poledouris' LES MIS or Zimmer's K2) or separated into individual tracks -- as long the whole thing flows together organically. The re-recording of CITIZEN KANE has a myriad of short cues, but I don't really think about it when I listen. Whether that has to do with crossfading or not, I don't know.

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25 minutes ago, Thor said:

The ol' McNeely one.

 

There's some under rehearsed cues on that album that have always bugged me. I prefer the other two re-recordings, and the original.

 

On 12/10/2020 at 5:12 AM, bruce marshall said:

I'm grateful ENNIO programmed them.

 

I'm not convinced that Morricone was involved in the programming of the EMI release.

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46 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

There's some under rehearsed cues on that album that have always bugged me. I prefer the other two re-recordings, and the original.

 

 

I'm not convinced that Morricone was involved in the programming of the EMI release.

I'm sure . Malone has discussed the process. EM was adamant that it not exceed sixty minutes and exclude short cues.

The only LISTENANBLE KANE is Gerhardt!

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Thank you Thor, that is refreshing to hear.

The key word is " flow", Jay.

For example , Tadlow F451 keeps cues discrete but runs them without stopping. It's fluid. No breaks.

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https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=141917&forumID=1&archive=0

Over at.the other place, Onya Birri started a thread that mirrors my view.

So, I may be a minority but I'm not alone

 

16 minutes ago, Jay said:

I completely agree with you that flow is very important for a film score album (or any album of music, really)

 

What I disagree with is the notion that you can look at the number of tracks a release has and assume that is must therefore not have a good flow.  You can't possibly know that until you listen to it.

True.

But I still think very short cues, like stingers or transitions, lack MUSICAL value and need not be included.

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14 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

But I still think very short cues, like stingers or transitions, lack MUSICAL value and need not be included.

Amd once again, you have your old expansions with no short cues, why does it matter to you if a newer proper complete expansion is properly complete?

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20 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

 

But I still think very short cues, like stingers or transitions, lack MUSICAL value and need not be included.

 

If you were referring to an original release, I'd empathise, as short cues/stingers often don't work for a listening-oriented album.

 

But expansions just aren't designed to be optimised for listening. You can have a Mattessino-style effort to arrange things a bit, but it has still been produced with the ideology of releasing the entire score. and people, expect it to contain everything.

 

Strikes me that expanded releases aren't really your thing from the start.

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Well, for one thing, the " older" version doesn't sound as good.

I would PREFER  to listen to this newer one.

Anyway, a fellow Morriconian, who possesses.tech skills I lack, promised to make me a customized single disc version.

You all think it's easy to make a custom cd.

, but it isn't for me

1 minute ago, Richard Penna said:

 

If you were referring to an original release, I'd empathise, as short cues/stingers often don't work for a listening-oriented album.

 

But expansions just aren't designed to be optimised for listening. You can have a Mattessino-style effort to arrange things a bit, but it has still been produced with the ideology of releasing the entire score. and people, expect it to contain everything.

 

Strikes me that expanded releases aren't really your thing from the start.

C and C aren't my thing.

But, I was beyond joyful when GBU was originally expanded!

It inspired me to write a full analysis of the score and soundtrack for FSM!

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3 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

You all think it's easy to make a custom cd.

, but it isn't for me

 

You just need a computer (I've never heard of anyone doing one with a phone or tablet anyway) and then a couple hours of experience with audio editing software.  I learned when I was a teenager I am sure you could learn too

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I was also overjoyed when Lukas Kendall expanded the BOND scores. He did it right!😁

1 minute ago, Jay said:

 

You just need a computer (I've never heard of anyone doing one with a phone or tablet anyway) and then a couple hours of experience with audio editing software.  I learned when I was a teenager I am sure you could learn too

I'm too old to learn.

Plus, I don't own a pc😞

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3 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

I was also overjoyed when Lukas Kendall expanded the BOND scores. He did it right!😁data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAPABAP///wAAACH5BAEKAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAICRAEAOw==

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Actually in that case, the lawyers didn't let him do them the way he wanted, and he was forced to put all the unreleased music after the LP programs as bonus tracks

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2 hours ago, Thor said:

Personally, I don't really care if the cues are separated or joined. I press play and listen from start to finish regardless, and I'm not really a "cue lover". So it's the same whether they are joined in super-long suites (like in Poledouris' LES MIS or Zimmer's K2) or separated into individual tracks -- as long the whole thing flows together organically. The re-recording of CITIZEN KANE has a myriad of short cues, but I don't really think about it when I listen. Whether that has to do with crossfading or not, I don't know.

Th or, you've written many times, that you don't want to have to program your own albums; you feel, rightly so, it's the label's responsibility.

I agree

4 minutes ago, Jay said:

Actually in that case, the lawyers didn't let him do them the way he wanted, and he was forced to put all the unreleased music after the LP programs as bonus tracks

Not true.

He expanded many tracks that are part of the ost assembly.

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4 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

Th or, you've written many times, that you don't want to have to program your own albums; you feel, rightly so, it's the label's responsibility.

I agree

 

But no two people will agree on exactly how to sequence an album - they have to do what they think will be the most popular arrangement.

 

And if, as you indicate above, C&C releases aren't your thing, then stop banging on about their 'flaws' whenever they come out! Just don't buy them!

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Just now, bruce marshall said:

He specifically programmed the bonus material to play as if it was an alternate program- listenable on its own e.g. YOLT

 

Aye, the same thing Matessino tries to do whenever possible

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2 minutes ago, Richard Penna said:

But no two people will agree on exactly how to sequence an album - they have to do what they think will be the most popular arrangement.

Exactly. It's a much better solution to just provide the score as is as a neutral ground for everyone to mess with as they please.

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1 hour ago, bruce marshall said:

Th or, you've written many times, that you don't want to have to program your own albums; you feel, rightly so, it's the label's responsibility.

I agree

 

Sure, but it makes no difference to me whether the tracks are combined or separated. A composer-producer can make great album experiences either way.

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1 hour ago, Jay said:

 

Aye, the same thing Matessino tries to do whenever possible

A rare but welcome development!😁.

But, that's just alternates, not score proper.

1 hour ago, Richard Penna said:

 

But no two people will agree on exactly how to sequence an album - they have to do what they think will be the most popular arrangement.

 

And if, as you indicate above, C&C releases aren't your thing, then stop banging on about their 'flaws' whenever they come out! Just don't buy them!

Tough.

I'll complain if I feel like it.

Put me on.ignore if YOU don't like it.

 

Besides , my comments are aimed at the labels, who we know read our comments.

Some may even be persuaded by them; MM seems to be emphasising listenability in recent releases😁

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On 12/20/2020 at 7:21 PM, bruce marshall said:

Just listened to the extended version of " BALLAD of a Soldier".

The additional stanzas just repeat the verses. No new lyrics  per se.

Fantastic cue!

 

Just wanted to clarify: the stereo ' album' version does contain additional lyrics, which is great news!

The extended mono version - the ' source' version- merely repeats verses

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1 hour ago, Holko said:

Uauah & effetti amusingly collects many recordings of the coyote call and playoff cleanly - voice for Tuco, ocarina for Angel Eyes, flute for Blondie, and some on janky electronics too, followed by takes of the playoff on voice&harmonica, then bass guitar.

 

Ooh, ringtone treasure chest!

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29 minutes ago, Holko said:

Yes!!! You can assemble your own one!

Yeah, but I have to farm out the work of creating a cdr-

It's a complicated project

 

 

My draft assembly of the non- sound track dues.

Disc two*

 

31*

3,4

5,6

8,9,12

14

20,21

28

32

 

1,2,3*

8,9*

10,11*

 

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