MattyO 62 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Oh what could have been! MV posted these comments on a post in a James Bond Music page I follow. Hopefully the red tape gets cleared when NTTD finally gets released. “Correction to everyone. It's not Eon. They are amazing to work with. It's two fold 1. The new movie delays. No one wants any older soundtracks out before the new movie arrives. Don't ask. This is the case with Top Gun and has been the case in the past (ie Xmen films and Apes films). The studios for some bizarre reason usually do not want any new soundtrack out of something old while the new one is coming out. 2. Capital Records, now UME, and MGM were right in the middle of renegotiating terms on all the Bond soundtracks right when Corona hit so it put the kibosh on things. So that is why no new Bond for the moment. We were actually planning 3 at the time...moonraker (40th anniversary) license to kill(30th anniversary) and tomorrow never dies but all on hold” He also mentions in another comment that OHMSS was also discussed. crumbs, Bryant Burnette, Maglorfin and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 34,965 Posted January 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2021 Holy fucking shit!!! MikeH, Yavar Moradi and A. A. Ron 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyO 62 Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 As to MV’s first point, I’d have thought that the extensive delays to the new film would open up EON to wanting something, anything to get released that keeps Bond out in the zeitgeist. Might as well make use of the extra time by working out merchandise deals. Likewise I hope EON are at least using this time to start planning the next Bond film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 980 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Great news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyO 62 Posted January 7, 2021 Author Share Posted January 7, 2021 As to MV’s first point, I’d have thought that the extensive delays to the new film would open up EON to wanting something, anything to get released that keeps Bond out in the zeitgeist. Might as well make use of the extra time by working out merchandise deals. Likewise I hope EON are at least using this time to start planning the next Bond film. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 706 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Oh my that would have been a release to get! The movie holding things up does not surprise me actually. This often comes from the filmmakers too - they don't want any confusion, any baggage, nothing. Reasonable? Rational? Doesn't matter - it just is what it is. I wonder if MGM being up for sale is now another wrinkle to wait out? On Moonraker, have the masters been found? I heard they had been lost in France so we only have the album tracks. I don't even think the music exists as a separate track from the film mix at this point. There was a Tadlow kickstarter (which I backed!) to re-record the whole film but someone on the Bond side blocked it, and the thing was scrapped (fortunately before they charged our credit cards). Can't believe that was 5 years ago! Anyway, some day we'll see these 3 scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,483 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Man, so close. Just have to be patient I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,284 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 " Missed it by THAT much" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 1,975 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 A while back I had a dream that LLL was doing an exclusive John Barry Bond box set which was primarily being produced by Neil S. Bulk. Even in the dream I was freaking out. And then I woke up. LoL. Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 34,965 Posted January 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2021 License to Kill and TND are literally my two most wanted Bond expansions. Damn you, covid! DrTenma, Yavar Moradi and Florian 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bruce marshall 1,284 Posted January 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2021 MOONRAKER would be way cool. Not much unreleased but it was not a great sounding recording. If they go back to multi tracks it should sound great! Amer, Florian and Yavar Moradi 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MattyO 62 Posted January 7, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 7, 2021 It shows clearly that La-La Land have the fans at heart - LTK and Moonraker are the two most requested Bond expansions. I remain hopeful that LLL will persevere when the timing is right. Yavar Moradi, Amer and MikeH 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,775 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 If you asked me to... Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,483 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 You earned it. You keep it. Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,775 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Looks like he came to a dead end... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJM 14 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 It would be amazing to finally get a complete release of Moonraker. Especially to get the great Freefall cue from the start of the movie, it's such a great arrangement of the Bond theme. lairdo With regards to the tapes for Moonraker, I don't think they have ever been missing. Dan Wallin brought them back to England after recording sessions to do some extra mixing. I recently read somewhere too that they have already been digitised. I never thought much to the LTK soundtrack but maybe a complete score release could change that. TND is Arnold's best Bond score. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,284 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Now we at least know pre- Arnold scores are in LLL domain! Great news!! "....finally get a complete release of Moonraker. Especially to get the great Freefall cue from the start of the movie, it's such a great arrangement ..." Hopefully, they won't include the circus music😒 AJM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJM 14 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 36 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: Now we at least know pre- Arnold scores are in LLL domain! Great news!! "....finally get a complete release of Moonraker. Especially to get the great Freefall cue from the start of the movie, it's such a great arrangement ..." Hopefully, they won't include the circus music😒 I didn't think the circus music was composed by Barry or maybe that was Octopussy. If it is included, let's hope it's not in the main score presentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,159 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 I don't need any more Licence to Kill, thank you. Looking forward to the others. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,104 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 4 hours ago, The Big Man said: If you asked me to... Why don't you wait 'til you're asked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,284 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, AJM said: I didn't think the circus music was composed by Barry or maybe that was Octopussy. If it is included, let's hope it's not in the main score presentation. I like Barry's ost program that combined cues. I'd be happy if that was remastered with bonus tracks like TLD was done. There might be some unused cues in there that I would love to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,775 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 1 minute ago, bruce marshall said: I like Barry's ost program that combined cues. Heh that's blasphemy for these nujobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJM 14 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: I like Barry's ost program that combined cues. I'd be happy if that was remastered with bonus tracks like TLD was done. There might be some unused cues in there that I would love to hear. Barry's OST program was a good but feel like a complete chronological sequence would fair better. The original album would be very easy to recreate anyway providing cues are not combined. The sequencing of the Rykodisc & 2003 remasters was terrible having the OST first and bonus tracks after. Same goes for LTK, not really that impressed with the OST sequence. bruce marshall and Florian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,775 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 LTK is a messy album but the good bits are really good. AJM and Florian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,671 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 All three will be very welcome. Karol Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,284 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, The Big Man said: Heh that's blasphemy for these nujobs. Don't I know it!😒 ( see above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 195 Posted January 7, 2021 Share Posted January 7, 2021 Daaamn! I would/will get 'em all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 607 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,284 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I really hope they put their efforts on unreleased material. OHMSS received a comprehensive release and shouldn't take priority over MWGG...MR...AVTAK etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron007 36 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 7 hours ago, bruce marshall said: I really hope they put their efforts on unreleased material. OHMSS received a comprehensive release and shouldn't take priority over MWGG...MR...AVTAK etc Agreed. It can certainly come later, but the one we have now isn't bad, especially if you put it in film order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,233 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I've never felt the desire for more of Arnold's scores, but if you start expanding John Barry's Bond scores, I'll be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,671 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 MV had this to add on FSM board: Quote Bond titles were "planned" but now everything is on hold especially now that MGM is on the selling block Sorry guys MV Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto 4,659 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 4 hours ago, mstrox said: if you start expanding John Barry's Bond scores, I'll be there. So, basically, more of the same then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,284 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 8 hours ago, Cameron007 said: Agreed. It can certainly come later, but the one we have now isn't bad, especially if you put it in film order. TLD...DAF....OHMSS can all be programmed in order. YOLT can't, but I have a cdr someone made for me that puts it in order. I needed that pre credits as in the film! 6 hours ago, mstrox said: I've never felt the desire for more of Arnold's scores, but if you start expanding John Barry's Bond scores, I'll be there. DAD is the one that.most needed expanding. The rest....😗 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,284 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I would have bought CR and SKYFALL if they included the title songs. Stupid!😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 13,863 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 On 1/9/2021 at 7:23 AM, crocodile said: MV had this to add on FSM board: Karol FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF........!!!!! TND is the last non-expanded Arnold Bond score, and it's his best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,775 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 27 minutes ago, crumbs said: FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF........!!!!! TND is the last non-expanded Arnold Bond score, and it's his best... Not true. TND was expanded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,284 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Just now, The Big Man said: Not true. TND was expanded. Expanded, not COMPLETE!😠😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,775 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 It's got enough. Bafflingly It's missing one track from the OST but you can just it chuck that in yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,284 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Like I said....when LLL does their two disc expansion, I'll get the single disc expanded How much score did the CHIII add? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 146 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Glad they got to do The World Is Not Enough in time, as that was the crucial David Arnold score that didn't get a complete release or a bootleg earlier. Would love to listen to a complete Tomorrow Never Dies not sourced from the iso score as well, needless to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Vincent 215 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 3 hours ago, bruce marshall said: How much score did the CHIII add? About 23 minutes. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,104 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 At least the TND expansion has my favourite track on it. There is an expanded version of LTK, on YouTube. It's pretty darned good. Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,233 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Don't have much interest myself in expanded Arnold Bond scores, but just because you have it doesn't mean other people have it! The Tomorrow Never Dies expansion is long out of print and expensive, so it merits a re-release anyway as far as I'm concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mxsch 115 Posted February 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted February 13, 2021 I'm really hate EON for this dumb strategy. Nothing will happen to the marketing of NTTD if this scores will be released, except hardcore fans will be pleased. Edmilson, bruce marshall and Florian 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyO 62 Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share Posted February 13, 2021 15 minutes ago, mxsch said: I'm really hate EON for this dumb strategy. Nothing will happen to the marketing of NTTD if this scores will be released, expect hardcore fans will be pleased. Agreed. EON is in need of some positive fan support, they should just get it done. Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 7,671 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Those three releases being on hold has nothing to do with EON at this point. It's about MGM putting itself up for sale. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 13,863 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Yeah I think the initial delay was EON wanting to avoid "confusing the market" while promoting NTTD, but now it's an issue with MGM freezing their assets in preparation for sale. Go figure. I bet whoever made that decision at EON regrets it now; they were apparently very happy with what LLL were doing. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,775 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, crumbs said: Yeah I think the initial delay was EON wanting to avoid "confusing the market" while promoting NTTD, but now it's an issue with MGM freezing their assets in preparation for sale. As if everyone would think they were remaking Tomorrow Never Dies. Florian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,184 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 hour ago, crumbs said: Yeah I think the initial delay was EON wanting to avoid "confusing the market" while promoting NTTD There's something going on inside the head of a suit somewhere, for which 'confusing the market' is a friendly term. At most, 5000 or so score fans will notice and buy an expansion. Hundreds of millions will see the new film. This executive needs a reality check. Florian and crumbs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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