Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 56 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: So...who’s gonna start a Kickstarter to do that? All of his written cues are waiting right here: http://collections.new.oscars.org/Details/Archive/71303062 That seems to be right up your alley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 If Bespin allocated half of what he spends on soundtracks, he could easily fund it HIMSELF!😁 HunterTech 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I don't like when they release an unfinished work from an artist. You can't release "sketches" or rough demos from an artist wihtout his consent, it has no sense. It's not respectuous. Some composers or musicologists may have access to these sketches for an educationnal purpose, but that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 For those who's wondering whether the Babe music is your cup of tea, here's the re-recorded score: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 You never heard of SCHUBERT'S Unfinished Symphony? Many famous composers had unfinished, unpublished, unperformed , posthumous releases. You may want to delete your post, Bes😉😛 Is it legal to post these Spotify playlists? ". It's not respectuos". I'm appropriating that word!😍😊 Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Uh, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: Is it legal to post these Spotify playlists? Yes bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 It wasn't legal when NAPSTER did it!😳😳 6 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Uh, yes. " yes" was sufficient. " uh" adds nothing to the conversation. Trust me. I'm a professional;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Streaming is legal, at least on Spotify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 26 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: For those who's wondering whether the Babe music is your cup of tea, here's the re-recorded score: Check out track 19. It's not on.the ost. Just now, Jurassic Shark said: Streaming is legal. Don't confuse me any further!😰 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: It wasn't legal when NAPSTER did it!😳😳 Napster was a file sharing service that many people chose to use to share copyrighted music with each other Spotify is a legal streaming service that has legal contracts with the copyright holders of the music they have in their library Yavar Moradi and BryonDavis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Thanks. I thought only the subscribers could access it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 You can pay to have an ad-free experience, or not pay and have ads play in between tracks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I'm basically listening to these albums for FREE. Even if it's only streaming. Grey area. For instance, I can stream music For FREE on YT, but it may be sponsored or have ads between tracks. Holko' a WOTW is restore allows me to listen to the INTRADA album for free. I'm not looking to get anybody in trouble, just curious how all this works. Does this site pay ASCAP/BMI license? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: Check out track 19. It's not on.the ost. I prefer the final movement of Saint-Saëns' 3rd symphony - it's got a little more oompf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Westlake composed the definitive version. The SAINT SAENS wasnt even a.thing before him. I'm familiar with the original. It never registered. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, bruce marshall said: The SAINT SAENS wasnt even a.thing before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 It's like " House of the Rising Sun"; before THE KINKS did it , it wasn't a thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, bruce marshall said: I'm basically listening to these albums for FREE. Even if it's only streaming. Grey area. For instance, I can stream music For FREE on YT, but it may be sponsored or have ads between tracks. Holko' a WOTW is restore allows me to listen to the INTRADA album for free. I'm not looking to get anybody in trouble, just curious how all this works. Does this site pay ASCAP/BMI license? There's nothing 'grey' or ambiguous about Spotify. You either pay to listen, or listen for free, but get ads between tracks. Not sure how embedded players work, but that's their problem to handle. Either way it's completely legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 But I didn't pay to listen to the playlist Shark posted. Or, are there ads on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 hour ago, bruce marshall said: Holko' a WOTW is restore allows me to listen to the INTRADA album for free. Hey! That's Chewy's hard work! bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, bruce marshall said: But I didn't pay to listen to the playlist Shark posted. Or, are there ads on it? If you're not registered, you can only play the first 30 seconds of each track. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Sorry. I.meant LLL E.T. album ( though it applies to WOTW and MR) I'm basically streaming it for free by watching the videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Well, you're not allowed to close your eyes. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Spider-Fal said: 11 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Well, you're not allowed to close your eyes. Ludovico techniques? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Hell of a price to pay to listen to E.T. for free!😆 Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Talking about E.T. Did you ever listened to the Live Performance conducted by JW? MY DISCOGRAPHY, THE BEST JW DISCOGRAPHY IN THE WORLD (and the only one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 9 hours ago, Bespin said: Talking about E.T. Did you ever listened to the Live Performance conducted by JW? MY DISCOGRAPHY, THE BEST JW DISCOGRAPHY IN THE WORLD (and the only one). I Only have some exerpts as an extra on my DVD. Does the full performance exist on blu-ray? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryonDavis 172 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 13 hours ago, bruce marshall said: I'm basically listening to these albums for FREE. Even if it's only streaming. Grey area. For instance, I can stream music For FREE on YT, but it may be sponsored or have ads between tracks. Holko' a WOTW is restore allows me to listen to the INTRADA album for free. I'm not looking to get anybody in trouble, just curious how all this works. Does this site pay ASCAP/BMI license? I can promise its not a gray area. 13 hours ago, bruce marshall said: I'm basically listening to these albums for FREE. Even if it's only streaming. Grey area. For instance, I can stream music For FREE on YT, but it may be sponsored or have ads between tracks. Holko' a WOTW is restore allows me to listen to the INTRADA album for free. I'm not looking to get anybody in trouble, just curious how all this works. Does this site pay ASCAP/BMI license? They do pay all publishing. This is why sound exchange exists. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 So , JWFAN may not pay directly, but the hosts and servers that enable music to be streamed on the site, pay blanket licensing fees to ASCAP + BMI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 Just because you see an embed in a JWFan post doesn't actually mean JWFan has anything to do with the process whatsoever. If someone plops a Spotify playlist into a post, the embed content is entirely pulled off of Spotify's servers and if you press play, the transmission is going direct from Spotify to you. Nothing from it goes onto JWfan's servers whatsoever bruce marshall and Yavar Moradi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 How does the score restore work when Intrada or LLL albums are reproduced in full? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 Those videos are hosted on google and transferred directly from there to you, JWFan has nothing to do with that either bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I assume rights holders can request they be taken down? Sometimes I see a " video has been removed" label I'm still trying to figure out how " cloud hosting " Works!😳😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: I assume rights holders can request they be taken down? Of course they can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Drive doesn't bother with doing content/copyright checks. I guess if someone were to wander on here, the only place where they are linked, and saw them, and would really really report them or they were the rights holders, they could tell Drive and then they could maybe say "you were a bad boy, take those down". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 It's really only YouTube which has any significant copyright 'police', and they just punish the uploader if they take something down. Even if someone embedded the entire JW discography here, the worst that would happen is that someone noticed, reported it, and the uploader's account closed, leaving a lot of dead links here. (I mean, if JWFan were the uploader, things could get messy... but you get the idea - we're just viewing something available on public Internet) bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Again, i have no axe to grind here. Im just trying to learn how these things work. I grew up in a family of PROFESSIONAL musicians; actually getting paid for your work is a big part of the job!😞 Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 No it's fair enough, and not always easy to understand. I'm fairly sure that the only thing that could get JWFan in trouble would be hosting copyrighted materials directly on our server, and making it available. Spotify is right at the 'correct' end of the spectrum - it's a legal streaming service, regardless of how you access it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 Yup and that's why we've had rules here forever that copyrighted music can't be attached to posts here. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 30 minutes ago, Holko said: Drive doesn't bother with doing content/copyright checks. I guess if someone were to wander on here, the only place where they are linked, and saw them, and would really really report them or they were the rights holders, they could tell Drive and then they could maybe say "you were a bad boy, take those down". So, if someone wanted Holko banned, they could tattle? 😝😜😅😅😅😅😊😄😄😄😉😉😉😉😉😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJM 14 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 Already received a shipping notice Edit: arrived this afternoon. Looking forward the hearing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted January 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2021 21 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Again, i have no axe to grind here. Im just trying to learn how these things work. I grew up in a family of PROFESSIONAL musicians; actually getting paid for your work is a big part of the job!😞 Spotify is fully legal, and it is also garbage for musicians and songwriters! Each time a song is played, it generates less than a penny to the rights-holder of that song, who then divides that less-than-a-penny up between anyone involved. The record labels get the lion's share, to be certain. If you self-publish and self-release, you're better off - but it's still less than a penny per play (and without a label's advertising budget, etc., certainly you'd get less play). This also applies to YouTube and any other streaming option. Sample on Spotify, buy to support the artists IMO. Yavar Moradi, Holko, Jurassic Shark and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I wholeheartedly agree with Mike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I bought this album. I rewatched most of the movie yesterday, and the music is very pleasant. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,688 Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 hours ago, mstrox said: Sample on Spotify, buy to support the artists IMO. Yes, 'sample' is the key word for me. Spotify really exists as a way for me to decide whether I like something enough to buy it. It's not even because of the pennies they give to artists (although that is a factor), but that I need to own my music on my own hard drive. I would never, ever maintain my music collection only on a streaming platform. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 526 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 On 1/10/2021 at 10:17 AM, Spiegelson said: Question for Bryon Davis: BABE Deluxe Edition is produced and mixed/mastered by Mike Matessino? Produced, edited and mastered by Mike Matessino. Yavar Moradi, crumbs and Holko 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted January 13, 2021 Author Share Posted January 13, 2021 Amazing it took a week for that information to be online! @BryonDavis, please tell Varese marketing to improve their press releases! Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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