Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Jay said: For once a Spielberg score won't affect anything else JW is doing I don't think Lincoln affected anything (unless JW was really set on scoring Jack Reacher) Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted October 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: So there is a bright side to the Indy 5 delay for me at least..... "The Fabelmans pushed back to June 2023" Disco Stu, Not Mr. Big, Will and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 33 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: I don't think Lincoln affected anything (unless JW was really set on scoring Jack Reacher) By the way, I thought we had an unspoken agreement that we would automatically like any post the other made that mentioned The Post score favorably. 4 minutes ago, Cerebral Cortex said: "The Fabelmans pushed back to June 2023" Not funny! Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,429 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 38 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: unless JW was really set on scoring Jack Reacher) What? Williams was involved with Jack Reacher? I never knew that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Edmilson said: What? Williams was involved with Jack Reacher? I never knew that! They asked him but he said no. pete, Edmilson and Will 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Not involved, just was offered it but turned it down. IIRC it's mentioned in the booklet of the Jack Reacher OST released by LLL? Or maybe only the story of Tom Cruise hearing the first recorded cue and asking McQuarrie where he found Kraemer because he hasn't heard a cue that good since Born on the Fourth of July, or something like that I can't find the article where he tells the story now, or maybe it was a video interview? It might have been one of these There was also video online of Kraemer meeting Williams, shaking his hand and thanking him for turning down Jack Reacher, but I can't find that video now either Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I quite enjoyed Kraemer's Reacher score for what it was. The other Tom Cruise franchise that replaced Kraemer with an RCP alum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,429 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 I'm curious to see how Williams would score a movie like JR... maybe it could've been a return to his darker scores from the 1990s like Sleepers and Nixon. But I'm not THAT disappointed because Kraemer's score is pretty good... And another reminder that he should've been doing way more high profile movies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 10 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: I don't think Lincoln affected anything (unless JW was really set on scoring Jack Reacher) The BFG was pretty wide open too And West Side Story didn't affect anything else JW was doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Until this morning I hadn't taken note of the fact that this movie is being distributed by Universal. If JW scores this, God willing, it will be nice that the film they make together about Spielberg's childhood will be made for the studio where they began their historic collaboration. Anyway, it's Spielberg's first movie for Universal since 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,492 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Yes, but I'd also like there to be at least ONE more collaboration after THE FABELMANS, so it reaches 30 before a possible conclusion. Just to have a nice, round number. Alternatively, we can fill the gap with AMAZING STORIES, THE UNFINISHED JOURNEY, A TIMELESS CALL or some such thing. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Am I the only one who sometimes which that Williams, in his spare time, rewrite the score of the Spielberg movies he couldn't do? Not out of disrespect to the other composers but I would love to hear Duel scored by Williams, The Color Purple, The Bridge of Spies and Ready Player One, just to know how it could have sound (and to get more Williams of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 They would sound more of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,353 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 1 hour ago, May the Force be with You said: Am I the only one who sometimes which that Williams, in his spare time, rewrite the score of the Spielberg movies he couldn't do? Not out of disrespect to the other composers but I would love to hear Duel scored by Williams, The Color Purple, The Bridge of Spies and Ready Player One, just to know how it could have sound (and to get more Williams of course) That is something I rather wish for the Star Wars stuff, that Williams didn't do or the Harry Potter movies. But the mentioned Spielberg score are very ok, therefore no need for a rewrite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 4 hours ago, May the Force be with You said: Duel...The Color Purple, Bridge of Spies and Ready Player One... Every bleeding day, mate! Also, POLTERGEIST, THE TWILIGHT ZONE, and SOMETHING EVIL. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Every bleeding day, mate! Also, POLTERGEIST, THE TWILIGHT ZONE, and SOMETHING EVIL. And Alien and the HP sequels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, May the Force be with You said: Alien ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 For a time, JW was in the frame to score ALIEN, but then, so was Tomita, so...wtf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 6 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: For a time, JW was in the frame to score ALIEN, but then, so was Tomita, so...wtf? Ridley Scott: Hmm ... deep space ... aliens ... synthesizers ... TOMITA! There's logic in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 I understand wondering about the Spielberg films he didn't score, but he's been approached and maybe unofficially attached to so many movies over the years at a certain point you're just wondering "what if JW scored every movie?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, AC1 said: Ridley Scott: Hmm ... deep space ... aliens ... synthesizers ... TOMITA! There's logic in this. There's psychotropic substances, in this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I understand wondering about the Spielberg films he didn't score, but he's been approached and maybe unofficially attached to so many movies over the years at a certain point you're just wondering "what if JW scored every movie?" No just that one as a none Spielberg because it's a genre he didn't really do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 He probably didn't do it, for good reason, although we'll never know what the reason is. 22 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I understand wondering about the Spielberg films he didn't score, but he's been approached and maybe unofficially attached to so many movies over the years at a certain point you're just wondering "what if JW scored every movie?" Some scores are perfect as they are, that I wouldn't want JW to write them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 JW is too Spielbergy for Alien. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 This movie seems boring on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,513 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Brónach said: This movie seems boring on paper. "Alien gets lost and hooks up with snot-nosed kid, in suburban America". I'm sure that seemed boring on paper, as well. Let's wait and see, shall we? Raiders of the SoundtrArk and Muad'Dib 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,429 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 11 minutes ago, Brónach said: This movie seems boring on paper. I agree, but I rarely likes these coming of age movies based on the director's childhood. There are some exceptions though, like Boyhood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 2 hours ago, AC1 said: JW is too Spielbergy for Alien. I think you should listen again Images... Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1977 1,743 Posted November 11, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 11, 2021 3 hours ago, AC1 said: JW is too Spielbergy for Alien. Raptors in the Kitchen and The Abduction of Barry would like to meet you behind the wood shed after school. Edmilson, A24 and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Once 605 Posted December 6, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2021 Release date: November 23, 2022! Will, mrbellamy, Muad'Dib and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,346 Posted December 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2021 Cool! Williams won't write the score until after his returns from Italy then, I guess. Actually, he might write it while living near Tanglewood in August Remco, Will and Once 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 What are the odds he gets it out of the way earlier than that? I feel like Williams often begins soon after Spielberg wraps regardless of release date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 True, maybe he's already writing Fabelmans and will record it before his spring concerts, and then write Indy 5 after those... Remco and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,477 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 If Fablemans has wrapped, I think they could get a workable cut to Williams by Feburary. So he could start with that. Indiana Jones he might start end of next year or even early 2023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I don’t know anyone named Fableman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Once said: Release date: November 23, 2022! 1 hour ago, Jay said: Cool! Williams won't write the score until after his returns from Italy then, I guess. Actually, he might write it while living near Tanglewood in August 1 hour ago, Jay said: True, maybe he's already writing Fabelmans and will record it before his spring concerts, and then write Indy 5 after those... Just like Indy 5, this is a film I am already excited to see without having even seen a preview for it. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,278 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I do remember BFG had wrapped in the summer and Williams mentioned he was about to start on it during a TFA interview in December. So he has waited that long in the recent past, but that was also VFX heavy, and also Williams was busy with Star Wars the whole year anyway. So I guess it just depends where the best gaps in his schedule are from now to November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Bespin said: I don’t know anyone named Fableman. It's a play on the actual Jewish surname of Abelman/Ableman. I'm guessing because it's about a boy who wants to be a storyteller through film, to tell fables sort of. It always makes me think of the great Coen brothers film A Serious Man, which had a prominent character named Sy Ableman Once and Docteur Qui 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I know Feibleman exist for real. My first name is Emanuel, I have nothing against Hebrew names! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Once said: Release date: November 23, 2022! Oh no, they're going with that as the final title aren't they? Will and Fabulin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 39 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: Oh no, they're going with that as the final title aren't they? I’d say I’m 15% more used to it than I was when it was announced. That leaves a whole year for the next 85%! Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Universal has stuck to their guns this year in terms of giving all their movies a traditional theatrical release with a normal exclusivity window before they hit streaming/video, but given the box office performance of West Side Story, and the outlook for "grown-up" movies in general, will The Fabelmans be a "Peacock Original" or whatever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 I'd almost guarantee Spielberg has it written into his contract that films need an exclusive theatrical run before appearing on-demand. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,429 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Yeah, no way Spielberg would let the studio premiere his movie straight on streaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Spielberg has incredible clout of course, especially given his history at Universal (even UNadjusted for inflation, ET is still in the top 10 highest grossing Universal movies, Jaws in the top 25), but I also can't see them wanting to flush money down the toilet for him. They could work out a deal like Netflix did with Scorsese to have a much shorter theatrical window and a fairly limited release in terms of theater count before it debuts streaming. I'm not saying I think this is likely, but I bet it's something they discuss! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,331 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 It's bound to happen, unless Spielberg only wants to make Indiana Jones or Dinosaur movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,306 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 There's definitely some traction happening with the score. According to IMDB, there's now two music credits: Mark Graham has worked on basically every JW score since The Phantom Menace (although he's only been head of music preparation in the last 10 years). I guess it's worth noting he also does Alan Silvestri's scores but not Thomas Newman's. Either way, the fact he's already involved (and by proxy, JoAnn Kane Music Service) could indicate the score is further along than we expected. Music clearance indicates someone in charge of securing rights for existing music (like source music), which isn't surprising for a film set in this era. Once and Brando 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Also, didn't Indiana Jones 5 get pushed to June 2023? Doesn't that create even more space between it and Fablemans now, which is November 2022? Especially since it is done filming, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,860 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, scallenger said: Also, didn't Indiana Jones 5 get pushed to June 2023? Doesn't that create even more space between it and Fablemans now, which is November 2022? Especially since it is done filming, right? Correct. Indy V getting pushed back a year might be a blessing in disguise if Williams can score both movies, rather than maybe choosing one over the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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