Not Mr. Big 4048 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Stu said: Part of me is looking forward to the production quality as much as the story and the music. Spielberg working in mid-century period settings is always just gorgeous to look at. Apparently they're shooting some of it on 16mm so we can expect some thick Spielberg film grain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1249 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: so we can expect some thick Spielberg film grain I LOVE film grain! Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 492 Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 Do we think this is going to be anywhere as entertaining as Apollo 10 1/2, because on the surface I don't see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3385 Posted May 13, 2022 Share Posted May 13, 2022 These vague comments (including Williams's own that the film is "very interesting") point toward something either dreadfully pointless or magically original. I doubt it will just be passible (e.g., The Post). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5622 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Minor release date change, releasing earlier in NYC and LA on November 11 Still going wide on November 23 Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 866 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 3 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: Minor release date change, releasing earlier in NYC and LA on November 11 Still going wide on November 23 Beat me to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1673 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Although I don't think he has directed any home runs recently, I really enjoy this late-career Spielberg era of making pet projects and smaller films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3385 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 According to Rotten Tomatoes, the film is PG-13 for some violence, language, and drugs. I guess we get to see a young Spielberg high, coarse, and prone to violence. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 866 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 27 minutes ago, Tom said: According to Rotten Tomatoes, the film is PG-13 for some violence, language, and drugs. I guess we get to see a young Spielberg high, coarse, and prone to violence. I was hoping for my favorite: intense peril Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom Guernsey 1428 Posted July 15, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, Brando said: I was hoping for my favorite: intense peril Not even some mild peril? Oh dear. My favourite is always “thematic elements” a phrase so vague as to be almost entirely meaningless. They should rate them for having unthematic elements. Like the score to Dunkirk for example. JTWfan77, Edmilson, Bayesian and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 866 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: Not even some mild peril? Oh dear. My favourite is always “thematic elements” a phrase so vague as to be almost entirely meaningless. They should rate them for having unthematic elements. Like the score to Dunkirk for example. Frightening images is my second favorite. Thematic elements is a good one too Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30988 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Tom said: According to Rotten Tomatoes, the film is PG-13 for some violence, language, and drugs. I guess we get to see a young Spielberg high, coarse, and prone to violence. What led you to decide to look up The Fabelmans on Rotten Tomatoes today? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 1428 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Brando said: Frightening images is my second favorite. Thematic elements is a good one too Well at least a frightening image is something you can imagine (even if what frightens each person is different) but a thematic element basically means anything. I mean, is it possible to make a film that doesn't have thematic elements?! Edmilson and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 866 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Tom Guernsey said: Well at least a frightening image is something you can imagine (even if what frightens each person is different) but a thematic element basically means anything. I mean, is it possible to make a film that doesn't have thematic elements?! Even "The Room" has some thematic elements and that's considered the worst movie ever made. An extreme amount of drama in it Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 5679 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 What, no nudity? Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3385 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Jay said: What led you to decide to look up The Fabelmans on Rotten Tomatoes today? The Indy interview (which I posted in that thread) automatically came up in my Youtube feed, which led me to think about the Fabelmans, so I did a news search. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 3412 Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 Sadly, these days something like this feels more like Netflix project to me. And while I'm looking forward to it, I have a feeling it's not going to exactly light up the box office. Has Spielberg ever had two flops in a row? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 866 Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Nick1Ø66 said: Has Spielberg ever had two flops in a row? Is this referring to West Side Story? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 3412 Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Brando said: Is this referring to West Side Story? Of course. Wasn't that his last film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 866 Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said: Of course. Wasn't that his last film? It was, but it was considered a flop? I don't remember hearing much, if any, negativity about it. For a musical I was unfamiliar with, I enjoyed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 3412 Posted July 16, 2022 Share Posted July 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, Brando said: It was, but it was considered a flop? I don't remember hearing much, if any, negativity about it. For a musical I was unfamiliar with, I enjoyed it. As I said, I was referring to box office. It was praised by critics. But in terms of box office, I think it made around 75 mil worldwide, and had to do north of 300 mil just to break even. A colossal flop, and definitely the Baseball Caps biggest (as far as I know). BFG was also a flop (though not as big as West Side Story) but was bookended by Bridge of Spies & The Post, which I believe did reasonably well given their relatively small budgets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7517 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 This is rumour control, here are the facts. Until B.F.G, no Spielberg film had lost money, for any studio. Even his less profitable films (1941; EMPIRE OF THE SUN; ALWAYS; AMISTAD etc.) made money. B.F.G. was the first financial hit that he ever took. It must have hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4635 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 11 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said: A colossal flop, and definitely the Baseball Caps biggest (as far as I know). BFG was also a flop (though not as big as West Side Story) but was bookended by Bridge of Spies & The Post, which I believe did reasonably well given their relatively small budgets. If he weren't the guy behind the Jurassic Park and Transformers franchises he would have severe problems getting projects off the ground now. Apart from more presidential movies, 'Lincoln' was the only breakout success of his after Indiana Jones 4. 5 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: This is rumour control, here are the facts. Until B.F.G, no Spielberg film had lost money, for any studio. You got it wrong, in the sense that the numbers on Wikipedia etc. often do not figure in marketing costs. Which might have been neat in the case of '1941', but since the '90s climbed upwards to a point where they sometimes were higher than the actual production costs. I highly doubt 'Amistad' *really* made money, at least not the kind of money Dreamworks needed it to make and it was a case of sour grapes back then: Spielberg delivering a stinker to his own new studio, but made a monster hit for Univrsal (Lost World) the same year. Nick1Ø66 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 3385 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 I don't think this is the sort of movie anyone expects to make more than $100. If it takes off and makes more, great; but for it be a flop, I would say it will have to land below $60 million. And, yes, WSS was a massive flop--not in terms of reviews but the BO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 4503 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Didn't Amistad open alongside Titanic and Tomorrow Never Dies? This may partially explain its flop. Both Titanic and Amistad were historical epics, but the Spielberg movie was much less crowdpleasing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 3412 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 10 hours ago, publicist said: If he weren't the guy behind the Jurassic Park and Transformers franchises he would have severe problems getting projects off the ground now. Apart from more presidential movies, 'Lincoln' was the only breakout success of his after Indiana Jones 4. You got it wrong, in the sense that the numbers on Wikipedia etc. often do not figure in marketing costs. Which might have been neat in the case of '1941', but since the '90s climbed upwards to a point where they sometimes were higher than the actual production costs. I highly doubt 'Amistad' *really* made money, at least not the kind of money Dreamworks needed it to make and it was a case of sour grapes back then: Spielberg delivering a stinker to his own new studio, but made a monster hit for Univrsal (Lost World) the same year. Spielberg is able to make passion projects he makes right now because he's Spielberg. I think the only other director working right now who has this kind of caché is maybe Nolan. But he still makes films that people want to see. 7 minutes ago, Tom said: I don't think this is the sort of movie anyone expects to make more than $100. If it takes off and makes more, great; but for it be a flop, I would say it will have to land below $60 million. Depends on the budget. Assuming a $50 million production budget, it would have to do north of $100 mil just to break even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4635 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 6 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said: Spielberg is able to make passion projects he makes right now because he's Spielberg. I think the only other director working right now who has this kind of caché is maybe Nolan. It happens, but I remember the tale of woe when he had to pay for the ‚Lincoln‘ crew himself or the production would have been shut down. The 800 pound gorilla days are long gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 3412 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 He's really expressed a lot of resistance to working with streamers, but I think that's the future for the kind of niche films he wants to make. I know Amblin recently inked a deal with Netflix, but I'm not sure if that involves Spielberg actually releasing films he's directed through them, or if it's just a production agreement to develop stuff. I'm sure any streamer would throw stupid money at Spielberg to direct anything he wanted. Apple would finance a sequel called 1942 just to be associated with him. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15468 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 And privately any streamer executive would feel a perverse pride in being the one that "broke" Spielberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4635 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Hopefully it will be better than 'The Irishman'. Mr. Who and Brundlefly 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7517 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Nick1Ø66 said: Apple would finance a sequel called 1942 just to be associated with him. Hee, hee. There's already a film called 1942. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 3412 Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 Looking forward to this! Edmilson and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 1517 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 4 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Hee, hee. There's already a film called 1942. That's the Christopher Columbus one, right? Smeltington and Naïve Old Fart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 4503 Posted July 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2022 17 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said: So if a Spielberg bio-pic is the second to last film that John Williams scores, then shouldn't Spielberg return the favour and make a Williams bio-pic be the second to last film Spielberg directs? Seems only fair. What would be even more fair would be if Williams was around to compose the score for his own bio-pic! Can't wait to hear John Williams' Johnny's Theme! Nick1Ø66, Brando and Andy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1673 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 6 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said: So if a Spielberg bio-pic is the second to last film that John Williams scores, then shouldn't Spielberg return the favour and make a Williams bio-pic be the second to last film Spielberg directs? Seems only fair. What would be even more fair would be if Williams was around to compose the score for his own bio-pic! Oh man, what would a JW score to a movie about his life be like? It's an autobio-score. What would we be treated to from JW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 1517 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 22 minutes ago, artguy360 said: Oh man, what would a JW score to a movie about his life be like? It's an autobio-score. What would we be treated to from JW? It would be a Goldsmith pastiche. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7517 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 5 hours ago, Tallguy said: That's the Christopher Columbus one, right? Right numbers; wrong order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 1517 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Riiiiight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7517 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 I'm not sure how to take that. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 1517 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 Sincere admiration! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 5679 Posted July 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2022 He’d probably use that trademark Fabelmans tact to rename The character to John Musiciams Brando, Edmilson, Brónach and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1440 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 17 hours ago, Tallguy said: That's the Christopher Columbus one, right? The director of Home Alone and Harry Potter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 3412 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 39 minutes ago, mstrox said: He’d probably use that trademark Fabelmans tact to rename The character to John Musiciams Johnny "Baby" Jazzman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 562 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 high chance we hear some Williams stuff in september Brando and Bespin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 5622 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 30988 Posted July 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 22, 2022 In 7 weeks a new film with a brand new John Williams score in it will be screened to an audience. Amazing. Yavar Moradi, Brando, eitam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 6220 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 On 18/07/2022 at 2:49 AM, Edmilson said: Can't wait to hear John Williams' Johnny's Theme! The Pencil Sequence and Girls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 866 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6822 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 So it will be a big Action & Adventure score, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 1517 Posted July 22, 2022 Share Posted July 22, 2022 It's all a fantasia on variations of "By the Time I Get to Phoenix". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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