Jay 37,319 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Well, I'm right and you're wrong. Percussive Planet is announced for Jun 26 2021, performed by Grubinger (source) The Violin Concerto is announced for "next summer", performed by Mutter (source) The Hollywood Bowl fanfare is announced for "the 100th anniversary of the Hollywood Bowl, to be conducted by Gustavo Dudamel" (source) The Vienna Processional is announced for "Tanglewood, Summer 21" conducted by Dudamel (source) Prelude is announced for "next season", performed by Cheng (source) They are literally all completely identical to each other. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 The processional for the Vienna Philharmonic Ball was actually supposed to premiere in January 2021, but the ball was canceled because of the pandemic, so it's supposedly being premiered next year in Vienna. Bespin and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 You don't built a discography on SUPPOSITIONS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Well, more than discography, what we're talking here it's the catalogue of his works. It all depends on the criteria you're using to list the works, which of course is something up to personal choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Of course. I'm half-vulcan, quarter-human and quarter-irish, so I have my contradictions! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,176 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Bespin said: In the case of the Prelude, we have a program confirmed by the performing artist. In Gloria I trust. But it hasn't been published. And you don't know if he's finished composing it yet. If he hasn't, there's no 100% guarantee that he'll ever finish it. Anyway, no recording has been announced, so it doesn't belong in a discography. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 It's a Bespingraphy, where there's room for everything and nothing at the same time. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: But it hasn't been published. And you don't know if he's finished composing it yet. If he hasn't, there's no 100% guarantee that he'll ever finish it. Anyway, no recording has been announced, so it doesn't belong in a discography. Yup. All 5 of these pieces might be performed to an audience one day, or might not. All 5 of them might get recorded and released on an album or single one day, or might not. If the website is about cataloging his recordings, and not being a crystal ball, then none of them should be listed yet. But if you're going to list 1, list all 5, because they'll all the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 They have been added to the index https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t3wT8eQumVviGLYHhZPXsMASnh5_COfWEICbbw4hS3I/edit#gid=865673007 crlbrg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 2:12 AM, Disco Stu said: YES! Very interesting that it’s a work written expressly to be paired with the earlier Scherzo. Cant wait to hear it! crlbrg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 It's fun to see such passion for that upcoming work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,221 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 On 3/26/2021 at 10:25 AM, Jay said: Percussive Planet is announced for Jun 26 2021, performed by Grubinger (source) The Violin Concerto is announced for "next summer", performed by Mutter (source) The Hollywood Bowl fanfare is announced for "the 100th anniversary of the Hollywood Bowl, to be conducted by Gustavo Dudamel" (source) The Vienna Processional is announced for "Tanglewood, Summer 21" conducted by Dudamel (source) Prelude is announced for "next season", performed by Cheng (source) Really cool! The Maestro has certainly been keeping busy. I love it! Joni Wiljami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Definitely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted April 9, 2021 Share Posted April 9, 2021 @Ricard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJH132 48 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 I think the "Scherzo" is a heavy and aggressive piece, unlike many of Williams' other concert works, which, as we know, have a tendency to focus on the dreamy quality of nature. I really enjoy it but would like to hear it a few beats-per-minute faster. The "Prelude" should be a fantastic addition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jocores 96 Posted May 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 3, 2021 Finally, the world premiere of the Prelude will be at Barcelona on June 21st: https://www.palaumusica.cat/es/osv-gloria-cheng-marc-timon_782362 eitam, Jay, Raiders of the SoundtrArk and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 Great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,243 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 3 hours ago, jocores said: Finally, the world premiere of the Prelude will be at Barcelona on June 21st: https://www.palaumusica.cat/es/osv-gloria-cheng-marc-timon_782362 The date and link have already been mentioned on the main page article from April 8, but thanks for the reminder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocores 96 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 8 hours ago, Ricard said: The date and link have already been mentioned on the main page article from April 8, but thanks for the reminder. I think you have to update the article because the Prelude will be performed in Barcelona and it will be the World Premiere of it, not just the European premiere of the scherzo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TownerFan 4,983 Posted May 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 4, 2021 Btw, Gloria confirmed me that the piece is going to be recorded by the Albany Symphony next year. Incanus, ChrisAfonso, Miguel Andrade and 10 others 10 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,262 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 2 hours ago, TownerFan said: Btw, Gloria confirmed me that the piece is going to be recorded by the Albany Symphony next year. Just as I expected 😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitam 364 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 So we still don't know whether the prelude is for piano and orchestra or piano only ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted May 4, 2021 Share Posted May 4, 2021 No, both pieces are "for piano and orchestra" eitam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crlbrg 381 Posted May 26, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2021 BuzzLightyear, Pawel P., SteveMc and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 Lucky guy! Barcelo is a fine composer in his own right. Love his Rozsa-esque score for COLISEUM and his heartwarming score for THE LITTLE WIZARD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocores 96 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 In the Barcelona concert there will be a suite from The Little Wizard and he willi premiere a piece he has written as an homage to Williams. It looks like it's going be a great concert. Plus the Palau de la musica catalana is gorgeous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 381 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 1 hour ago, jocores said: premiere a piece he has written as an homage to Williams The title of the piece is “The Beacon. Tribute to John Williams” jocores 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Cringe. WilliamsStarShip2282 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,478 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 33 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Cringe. Yeah, that title was a bit over-the-top. WilliamsStarShip2282 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Now I want bacon. WilliamsStarShip2282 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,304 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 I thought sharks were pescetarians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 What can I say, life found a way. WilliamsStarShip2282 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TownerFan 4,983 Posted May 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 28, 2021 Marc Timòn Barcelo said on Facebook that the piece runs 15 minutes. Raiders of the SoundtrArk, eitam, crumbs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 That's a long prelude! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 3 hours ago, TownerFan said: Marc Timòn Barcelo said on Facebook that the piece runs 15 minutes. The Prelude or The Beacon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 34 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: The Prelude or The Beacon? Prelude and Scherzo Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,319 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 Ah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,801 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 So the Prelude must be around 5 minutes, considering the Scherzo is 9:30. Nice! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,176 Posted May 28, 2021 Share Posted May 28, 2021 10 hours ago, carlborg said: The title of the piece is “The Beacon. Tribute to John Williams” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 381 Posted June 13, 2021 Share Posted June 13, 2021 Update re. the premiere and Timon's 'The Beacon' SteveMc and Miguel Andrade 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,640 Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 Did anyone catch yesterday's concert premiere by chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Miguel Andrade 1,262 Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 Here's a news report: https://www.ccma.cat/tv3/alacarta/telenoticies/sestrena-una-composicio-inedita-de-john-williams-al-palau-de-la-musica/video/6107337/ thx99, Falstaft, ChrisAfonso and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post karelm 2,903 Posted June 27, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 27, 2021 Gloria Cheng posted this from the premiere of the concert just now! Miguel Andrade, thx99, Ricard and 5 others 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamsStarShip2282 308 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 I am actually really excited to hear this. I am a fan of the Scherzo, which I think most people here are not. I will note that it is very different from his other works, although so is Conversations.... SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jocores 96 Posted June 28, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2021 I attended the concert and I was blown away by the Prelude and the Scherzo, as played by Gloria Cheng, it seemed as a different piece. The prelude adds a needed introduction to the piece it's almost a meditative piece, the calm before the storm. And the Scherzo played by the Cheng is far from the aggresiveness developed by Lang Lang in his performance, it's more detailed and, for me, much more interesting. The orchestra surprised me and it sounded much better than I expected and the music by Timon was very entertaining. On the minus side, some of the partitures they used in the Williams section seemed to come from an uncertain source. HArry Potter Suite was a cut & paste job, the Star Wars suite had certains parts missing (the ending of Leia's theme and a section of the Main Titles)... Will, Jay, Ricard and 7 others 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,033 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 28 minutes ago, jocores said: And the Scherzo played by the Cheng is far from the aggresiveness developed by Lang Lang in his performance, it's more detailed and, for me, much more interesting. I'm not surprised, as Lang Lang's performances are mostly about flashy gestures and exaggerated interpretations. Remco and jocores 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 381 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 7 hours ago, jocores said: I attended the concert and I was blown away by the Prelude and the Scherzo, as played by Gloria Cheng, it seemed as a different piece. The prelude adds a needed introduction to the piece it's almost a meditative piece, the calm before the storm. And the Scherzo played by the Cheng is far from the aggresiveness developed by Lang Lang in his performance, it's more detailed and, for me, much more interesting. The orchestra surprised me and it sounded much better than I expected and the music by Timon was very entertaining. Pleeeease tell us more! Was there anything especially interesting the orchestration? Or maybe a prominent part for some instrument in the orchestra? Any scrap of information is gold right now jocores 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hristo 12 Posted June 28, 2021 Share Posted June 28, 2021 Can anyone tell when it's going to be released? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanticStrings 10 Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 On 3/25/2021 at 3:56 PM, rough cut said: Curious to find out what the Prelude sounds like. Perhaps something like Walton's Spitfire Prelude... I can't sit at a piano without playing the opening of that first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocores 96 Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 6/28/2021 at 5:56 PM, carlborg said: Pleeeease tell us more! Was there anything especially interesting the orchestration? Or maybe a prominent part for some instrument in the orchestra? Any scrap of information is gold right now I'd love to be a musician to be able to get into a detailed explanation of the piece, but I'm not. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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