Popular Post crumbs 14,274 Posted April 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2021 LLL, Intrada and Varese are all doing amazing work expanding JW's catalog with Mike, but what are your predictions for the next score tackled by each of the 3? It's a safe bet that something JW is coming from LLL in the near future (whatever was delayed from Black Friday) and Intrada already listed Williams as one of the upcoming composers on their slate. My predictions: LLL Hook (3CD) Varese The Eiger Sanction (2CD) Intrada The Patriot (2CD) Hook with LLL because they already expanded the score and have done V2s in the past (Home Alone). Patriot with Intrada for the Hollywood Records (Disney) factor. Eiger with Varese because of their history with the OST. bollemanneke, Amer, Brando and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,308 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Hook from LLL. The rest is irrelevant to me. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,042 Posted April 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2021 15 minutes ago, crumbs said: the 3 specialty labels Quartet, Music Box, buysoundtrax, Kritzerland, and Note For Note in shambles right now... bollemanneke, Bellosh and Chewy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,423 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 I perfectly agree with your predictions. I would also say that after the long wait since the last Williams released I wouldn't be surprise if LLL would release an Oliver Stone boxset for the 30th anniversary of JFK. Just now, Jay said: Quartet, Music Box, Kritzerland, Note For Note in shambles right now... I don't know how Music Box is doing right now but the price of there second hand sets as almost doubled compare to the usual since the six month now. I've seen Intrada Jaws for $180!!! So I'm gessing they're not so well financially.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,071 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 My predictions: LLL Memoirs of a Geisha or Amistad or Hook Varese Presumed Innocent Intrada Stepmom or Seven Years in Tibet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,274 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 23 minutes ago, Jay said: Quartet, Music Box, buysoundtrax, Kritzerland, and Note For Note in shambles right now... I figured someone would point this out; I just limited it to the 3 labels who have released modern JW expansions produced by Mike. No offense intended to any of the other labels who are also doing amazing work on score expansions. I'd be thrilled to see any of them tackling JW scores! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 LLL: JFK, Hook and Amistad Intrada: The Patriot and Nixon Varese: The Eiger Sanction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 People with multiple predictions per label which feels like it's not in the spirit of the thread conceit. Cheaters! Hedgers! Chewy and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,399 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Did I miss something, is The Patriot definitely Intrada territory? If yes, that's somewhat of a bummer, I'd love to see what Jim Titus would do with it, it'd fit so nicely with Far and Away. Amer and Chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 The OST album to The Patriot was released by Hollywood Records, which is owned by Disney, so it's assumed nobody else but Intrada could get a license to expand it (the contract would involve Sony Pictures for the remaining music that wasn't on the OST) This thread might interest you https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/32706-john-williams-scores-by-music-label/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Am I correct that Return to Witch Mountain is the last Intrada release of a Disney owned score? That was December 2019. Hopefully this abnormally long gap is just a pandemic thing, and not a sign of a new normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,280 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 I! Want! My! CMIYC! Expansion! Don't care about the label. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 30 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Am I correct that Return to Witch Mountain is the last Intrada release of a Disney owned score? That was December 2019. Hopefully this abnormally long gap is just a pandemic thing, and not a sign of a new normal. Their most recent Disney title was Alive by James Newton Howard, in January 2020 We know they're working on Willow and that Broughton theme park album, so the partnership is still alive! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just now, Jay said: Their most recent Disney title was Alive by James Newton Howard, in January 2020 Still a relatively unusually long gap for them, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 I dunno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,274 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 I guess the merger with Fox might have caused delays. Probably had a lot on their plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Oh what the hell, I did the work 2020 Alive 2019 Return to Witch Mountain Iron Will Johnny Tremain 2018 Baby, Secret of the Lost Legend (redo) Micky, Donald, and Goofy: The Three Musketeers 2017 Honey I Blew Up The Kid One Little Indian (redo) Good Morning, VIetnam / Operation Dumbo Drop Ducktales: The Movie Sky High 2016 Dick Tracy The Haunted Mansion The Rocketeer Homeward Bound 2 The Rescuers Down Under Unidentified Flying Oddball 2015 Something Wicked This Way Comes (Delerue) Candleshoe Homeward Bound Adventures in Babysitting Tomorrowland (physical edition of digital OST album) The Return to Oz Lady and the Tramp (exclusive distribution of Disney Legacy title) Escape to Witch Mountain Tinker Bell and the Great Fairy Rescue Tinker Bell and the Lost Treasure 2014 A Far Off Place Deep Rising Night Crossing Muppets Most Wanted / The Muppets Captain America: The Winter Soldier (physical edition of digital OST album) 2013 Thor: The Dark World (physical edition of digital OST album) The Thanksgiving Promise A Christmas Carol Hocus Pocus Tinker Bell The Lone Ranger (physical edition of digital OST album) Oz The Great And Powerful (physical edition of digital OST album) Those Callaways 2012 The Condorman The Last Flight of Noah's Ark The Avengers The Black Cauldron White Fang The Island at the Top of the World Toy Story 3 (physical edition of digital OST album) 2011 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea The Black Hole Squanto Up (physical edition of digital OST album) 2010 none 2009 Honey I Shrunk The Kids The Journey of Natty Gann Something Wicked This Way Comes (Horner) One Little Indian Baby: Secret of the Lost Legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,274 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 But what about 2010?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 So definitely a slowdown over the last few years Maybe the newly announced Hunchback Legacy edition is a good sign that things are moving at Disney Music now. *fingers crossed* mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Hopefully crumbs is right and the Fox merger followed by the pandemic are the primary causes and things will pick up soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,274 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Amer said: LLL Memoirs of a Geisha I wish! Sadly that score would be prohibitively expensive to expand unless the AFM changed their fee structure for post-WOTW scores (or granted LLL a waiver, maybe because the score was recorded so close to the cutoff). It's definitely one of my most-coveted expansions though, stunning score. The unreleased cue when Sayuri enters the garden is sublime (and even has an alternate that went unused!) jurassicjello · 8M2 Entering The Garden (Flute Version) Holko, Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Romão and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,423 Posted April 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2021 Okay as nobody has said the obvious yet I'm gonna do it: LLL: Hook (3CD) for may The John Williams Indiana Jones Collection (9CD) for july The John Williams Oliver Stone Collection (6CD) for Black Sunday The John Williams Star Wars Collection (25CD) inclueding Episode I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VIII, IX, Galaxy Edge (four hour presentation) Rogue One rejected score and Mando rejected score for this december Varèse: Presumed Innocent (2CD) The Eiger Sanction (2CD) for july Intrada: The Patriot (3CD) Seven Years in Tibet (2CD) The Witches of Eastwick (2CD) The BFG (2CD) Stepmom (10CD) for december This predictions are I think almost perfect and next year we get all what's missing. Manakin Skywalker, Dr. Rick and Brando 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,042 Posted April 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2021 Intrada: How To Steal A Million 55th anniversary LLL: Jane Eyre 50th anniversary Varese: Heartbeeps 40th anniversary Holko, Chewy, crumbs and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,262 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 3 hours ago, crumbs said: Intrada The Patriot (2CD) I hope you're right about this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,268 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 hour ago, crumbs said: I wish! Sadly that score would be prohibitively expensive to expand unless the AFM changed their fee structure for post-WOTW scores (or granted LLL a waiver, maybe because the score was recorded so close to the cutoff). It's definitely one of my most-coveted expansions though, stunning score. The unreleased cue when Sayuri enters the garden is sublime (and even has an alternate that went unused!) jurassicjello · 8M2 Entering The Garden (Flute Version) That's lovely. Sayuri's theme might be more obvious in the score, but Chiyo's theme is the true heart and soul of this score. Gorgeous theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,274 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 17 minutes ago, Romão said: That's lovely. Sayuri's theme might be more obvious in the score, but Chiyo's theme is the true heart and soul of this score. Gorgeous theme Which makes sense in the context of the film, considering Sayuri's longing to reunite with her family (except the Chairman becomes the surrogate for that void in her life). It really is a tantalising cue list when you see how many alternates JW wrote. If only it was recorded a few months prior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,850 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 1 hour ago, May the Force be with You said: Okay as nobody has said the obvious yet I'm gonna do it: LLL: Hook (3CD) for may The John Williams Indiana Jones Collection (9CD) for july The John Williams Oliver Stone Collection (6CD) for Black Sunday The John Williams Star Wars Collection (25CD) inclueding Episode I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VIII, IX, Galaxy Edge (four hour presentation) Rogue One rejected score and Mando rejected score for this december Varèse: Presumed Innocent (2CD) The Eiger Sanction (2CD) for july Intrada: The Patriot (3CD) Seven Years in Tibet (2CD) The Witches of Eastwick (2CD) The BFG (2CD) Stepmom (10CD) for december This predictions are I think almost perfect and next year we get all what's missing. LLL and Intrada already said that Star Wars / Indiana Jones would be done through Disney's own label, not through a specialty label. IF hypothetically they'd be done by a specialty label, they'd be Intrada territory, not LLL. Brando and The Cooler Daniel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,274 Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 I'm sure Disney Records will finally get around to Star Wars... right after they finish re-re-re-re-releasing all 9 OSTs on vinyl. ... and then release them again with new Deluxe packaging. Can't say I understand their logic in refusing to licence the scores to Intrada when they're doing nothing with them themselves... but hey, what do I know? GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,423 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 43 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: LLL and Intrada already said that Star Wars / Indiana Jones would be done through Disney's own label, not through a specialty label. IF hypothetically they'd be done by a specialty label, they'd be Intrada territory, not LLL. Manakin Skywalker and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,850 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 I didn't read the whole post until now, I just saw "Indiana Jones" and assumed you were being serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,423 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Nah I know we won't get that one before the fifth comes out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,317 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 I really want a complete Amistad and The Patriot. Hook seems to be the favorite lately to be coming out, I skipped the last release because the score has never really resonated with me, but I'd give it a shot with this supposed final/complete edition. Edmilson and BrotherSound 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,262 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Bellosh said: I really want a complete Amistad and The Patriot. Me too. I'd be happy with any of these two. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,306 Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Based on recent used copies at Amoeba: THE PATRIOT SEVEN YEARS IN TIBET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,240 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 LLL - Amistad Intrada - The Patriot Varese - The Reivers Maybe it’s because Varese has already tackled the other JW score that lead to Spielberg hiring Williams for The Sugarland Express, but I’d really love to see them also take on The Reivers, though I seem to recall it has an especially complicated rights situation. @Jay Is any of the speciality labels any likelier than the others to take on The Reivers, or is it equally likely to be expanded by any of them? 5 hours ago, Bellosh said: I really want a complete Amistad and The Patriot. These are really two of the best expansions left to be done, apart from the obvious Star Wars and Indy titles. Both have plenty of great material that didn’t make it onto the OSTs. Bellosh and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,152 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 I’ll play by the rules of the subject and choose one per label. 😝 VS: Presumed Innocent Intrada: SpaceCamp LLL: Hook BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 18 minutes ago, BrotherSound said: LLL - Amistad Intrada - The Patriot Varese - The Reivers This lineup is my dream. Amer and BrotherSound 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 On 29/04/2021 at 8:05 PM, BrotherSound said: Jay Is any of the speciality labels any likelier than the others to take on The Reivers, or is it equally likely to be expanded by any of them? Supposedly Paramount inherited the rights when National General Pictures folded, and Paramount works with all the labels. But I don't know IF the original scoring elements exist anywhere, or if they got lost over time BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,612 Posted April 30, 2021 Share Posted April 30, 2021 23 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Maybe the newly announced Hunchback Legacy edition is a good sign that things are moving at Disney Music now. *fingers crossed* WHAT!? WHERE?! https://giphy.com/gifs/star-park-cbc-LuWzue7DdWbNm BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,515 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 It wasn't actually officially announced before... Bruce Botnick revealed on this Goldsmith Odyssey Soundtrack Spotlight that he had just finished work on it: https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/8360054-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-along-came-a-spider-2001 But now it IS officially announced and up for preorder! https://www.disneymusicemporium.com/product/XVCD52/legacy-collection-the-hunchback-of-notre-dame?cp=null Yavar Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,308 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 YES!!!!!!! Why post here though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,515 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: YES!!!!!!! Why post here though? Because people were discussing it, just above! (I also posted in the non-Williams part of the forum too, though). Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,071 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Let's not forget Quartet Records. They did IMAGES recently. So they should be doing more obscure titles. Maybe... a reissue of TOM SAWYER in full stereo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,448 Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Hasn't J.F.K. been promised for, like 40 years? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,382 Posted September 13, 2021 Share Posted September 13, 2021 On 4/30/2021 at 2:05 AM, BrotherSound said: LLL - Amistad Intrada - The Patriot Varese - The Reivers LLL - Amistad Intrada - The Patriot Varese - Presumed Innocent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,274 Posted September 13, 2021 Author Share Posted September 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Brundlefly said: LLL - Amistad Intrada - The Patriot Varese - Presumed Innocent 100% this, with Eiger and Always now done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,152 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Since October is fast approaching, I'm bringing up a post I did in the WOTW thread from last year... Quote If you think about it we've been blessed with some excellent releases in the month of October recently. 2017: E.T. 2018: Dracula 2019: M.R. 2020: WOTW All are either sci-fi movies with some spooky elements or horror type movies for the Halloween season. Could we see Witches of Eastwick, The Screaming Woman or Images in October 2021? I can't think of any other yet-to-be expanded works that would fit in the Halloween mood. Well, we can cross Images off the list at least, I'd love to get a WoE expanded release! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Star Wars. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,423 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 Or SpaceCamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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