Popular Post TownerFan 4,983 Posted May 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2021 Looks like this is fairly recent: https://www.steinway.com/news/features/owners/john-williams Short, but lovely! crumbs, Fabulin, SteveMc and 16 others 8 3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,610 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Cool interview. Isn't there an ad from many years ago with Williams on Steinway? He speaks of working on the violin concerto for next summer, so the interview must have taken place last spring/early summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 5, 2021 Very cool interview! I love when he talks at any level of detail about his actual craft. crumbs, Bayesian and Once 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 I wonder if he got a discount on the new grand in exchange for the last part of the interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Huh, I wonder how old this actually is? Talking about the Steinway he had "just gotten" and how he "went down to my local Steinway gallery and played some of them", doesn't sound like pandemic things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,397 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Still one of the most interesting JW interviews of recent years somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Well, if it was last spring the pandemic had just begun over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,042 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Looks like the Wayback Machine first cached this interview on June 22nd 2020 https://web.archive.org/web/20200813114530/https://www.steinway.com/news/features/owners/john-williams TownerFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitam 362 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Very nice ! I could practically hear JW's smooth voice in my head talking about his new Steinway Surprised to see him name-dropping Images. To think that that score is nearly 50 years old ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,384 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Tom said: Cool interview. Isn't there an ad from many years ago with Williams on Steinway? Yes, and I think I have it in my magazine collection somewhere (it's on the backside of the mag). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Beautiful interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 BTW this is his local Steinway show room https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x80c2beadc9bd298f%3A0x54f82e9fd21d077!3m1!7e115!4shttps%3A%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipOz7QIsGFL3raJ-HzeqWad7iTDz3vWc8Xg5z3tI%3Dw568-h320-k-no!5ssteinway showroom beverly hills - Google Search!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipOz7QIsGFL3raJ-HzeqWad7iTDz3vWc8Xg5z3tI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiA1r3CzrPwAhViTd8KHYBsB4oQoiowGnoECDAQAw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 7 hours ago, Disco Stu said: BTW this is his local Steinway show room https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x80c2beadc9bd298f%3A0x54f82e9fd21d077!3m1!7e115!4shttps%3A%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipOz7QIsGFL3raJ-HzeqWad7iTDz3vWc8Xg5z3tI%3Dw568-h320-k-no!5ssteinway showroom beverly hills - Google Search!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e10!2sAF1QipOz7QIsGFL3raJ-HzeqWad7iTDz3vWc8Xg5z3tI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiA1r3CzrPwAhViTd8KHYBsB4oQoiowGnoECDAQAw So you're saying one of us needs to show up there one day and play Star Wars on a piano until he walks in? This interview was very sweet! The interviewer got Williams off on the right start by talking about his daughter, I think Williams responded to the human element from there. Once and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,410 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Wow, three Steinways! Steinway Trail – Wikipedia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,384 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 14 hours ago, Thor said: Yes, and I think I have it in my magazine collection somewhere (it's on the backside of the mag). Just to correct myself -- I now remember that I didn't see this John Williams/Steinway (at least I think it was Steinway; it was some form of piano) ad on any of my film music magazines, but an old National Geographic from the 70s or 80s. My dad has subscribed to NG since the early 70s, and I've often looked through them. I was utterly surprised to find the ad on the back cover on one of them. Out of left field, for sure. SteveMc and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,709 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Nice Interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 I wish his concert music was more like his soundtracks. I disagree with the idea that they have to be so different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Good thing John isn't seeking your input Remco and Nick Parker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Drew said: I wish his concert music was more like his soundtracks. I disagree with the idea that they have to be so different. Who's saying they _have_ to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,278 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 And some of his concert works are like his film soundtracks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SteveMc 2,674 Posted May 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 6, 2021 His concert work is not that far from his film work. The same spirit is there, often the same sort of technical complexity. The main difference is that the overall and thematic structures are more angular. Taikomochi, Disco Stu and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, SteveMc said: His concert work is not that far from his film work. The same spirit is there, often the same sort of technical complexity. The main difference is that the overall and thematic structures are more angular. Well said, for pretty much all of his concerti you can find examples of underscore written with a similar vocabulary. Remco and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 6, 2021 Like Williams said in the interview, his concert works and film works form a symbiotic circle, what happens to one of them will affect the other. You must understand this. crumbs, Bayesian, Jay and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Well said, for pretty much all of his concerti you can find examples of underscore written with a similar vocabulary. That's why my favourite is the cello concerto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,610 Posted May 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 6, 2021 I used to be disappointed that his concerti were not like his film music. But as I age, one, I have come to see how little actually separates them, two, the two are complimentary, three, we have hours and hours and hours of his film music--it is not like he is doing all that many fewer films to write concert stuff, four, his concert music is brilliant (well, aside from the flute concerto), and finally, it is not like I have him on retainer to write music for me--he is an artist who should do as he pleases. ps. is there an award around here for run-on sentences? Raiders of the SoundtrArk, SteveMc, Remco and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Who's saying they _have_ to be? Williams did. He talked about concert music being different than "commercial" music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 For me the trumpet concerto was like a gateway drug. I got incredibly obsessed with it, and then found I could listen to the other concerti with more open ears after that somehow. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 I saw the violin concerto when he conducted it. My least favorite part of the concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: For me the trumpet concerto was like a gateway drug. I got incredibly obsessed with it We know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,278 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, Drew said: I saw the violin concerto when he conducted it. My least favorite part of the concert. Not pop enough for you eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 34 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: That's why my favourite is the cello concerto. The scherzo has always given me major Jurassic Park vibes. 24 minutes ago, Drew said: Williams did. He talked about concert music being different than "commercial" music. Let's look at what he says, when the interviewer asks about Williams' "Romantic aesthetic". Quote While It’s been very useful in my commercial work, my concert works have been very different, more in the direction that I might’ve gone if I hadn’t done so much commercial work. For example, I’m writing a concerto for Anne-Sophie Mutter at the moment, which will premiere next summer at Tanglewood. In other words, his natural proclivities and instincts have _always_--and we can hear this multiple times with pieces such as Essay for Strings and Prelude and Fugue--leaned to the voice we hear in his concert work. So you're asking a person to forsake themselves so they can write something to appeal to a certain kind of audience. The film work he's done is an outcropping of what is a deeply personal voice, not the other way around. This isn't me being elitist, this is me drawing the conclusion from Williams' own words. And as several of us--including Williams in this very interview--have pointed out, his film and concert music have overlapped with each other over the decades, to the point where you can recognize the time he worked on something by their similarities with another: Tintin and Oboe Concerto, Tributes and TPM, so on and so on. Muad'Dib and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,278 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Song For World Peace also reminds me of JP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: The scherzo has always given me major Jurassic Park vibes. Yeah! The entire concerto oozes of JP. 2 minutes ago, Falco said: Song For World Piece also reminds me of JP One of my very favourite JW ceremonial works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 50 minutes ago, Tom said: his concert music is brilliant (well, aside from the flute concerto) Funnily enough, when I frequented a classical music board and shared some of JWs concerti there, the Flute Concerto got a lot of praise. The others not so much. Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 534 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 Flute Conc is my favourite of his concert works that I’ve listened to in any depth, though Five Sacred Trees is probably a close second. Talking of the Flute Conc, can anyone comment on my suggested timings for its four movements on the Varese LSO CD (VSD 5345)? 0:00 Movement 1 4:13 Movement 2 5:39 Movement 3 9:58 Movement 4 Inevitably there’s some guesswork based on the liner notes. Alternative solutions welcome Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,610 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 I find that the piece is very original but it has a continual harshness that repels me, but to each their own. It is a nice piece to throw out to those who claim Williams' music is just warmed over Holst or such nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, QuartalHarmony said: Flute Conc is my favourite of his concert works that I’ve listened to in any depth, though Five Sacred Trees is probably a close second. Talking of the Flute Conc, can anyone comment on my suggested timings for its four movements on the Varese LSO CD (VSD 5345)? 0:00 Movement 1 4:13 Movement 2 5:39 Movement 3 9:58 Movement 4 Inevitably there’s some guesswork based on the liner notes. Alternative solutions welcome Mark Been so long since I listened to it, but aren't there little pauses when the movements change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,423 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 I personnaly have a lot of affection for The Five Sacred Trees especially Es Mugna and Tortan that have two really different tone. I think Es Mugna is one of the most peaceful and soothing piece that Williams ever wrote IMO while Tortan is a really an ode to life making of the beginning of this concerto one of my favourites Williams' opening Bofur01 and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, May the Force be with You said: I personnaly have a lot of affection for The Five Sacred Trees especially Es Mugna and Tortan that have two really different tone. I think Es Mugna is one of the most peaceful and soothing piece that Williams ever wrote IMO while Tortan is a really an ode to life making of the beginning of this concerto one of my favourites Williams' opening I remember taking a trip to some canyon forests in Arizona back when I was first getting familiar with the piece as a teenager, and all I could hear when I looked at the beautiful sights before me was that first movement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Thor 7,384 Posted May 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2021 Wow, I found the ad I was thinking about by googling. As it turns out, it wasn't about Steinways or pianos at all, but rather about JVC stereo systems! But the faint memory of Williams sitting behind a piano with a quote was correct. This might have been used on other magazines than National Geographic, but that's where I first saw it: (sorry for this rather off-topic tangent; but I kinda got obsessed with it once this John Williams ad was mentioned earlier in the thread). Jurassic Shark, Tom, Raiders of the SoundtrArk and 4 others 2 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,610 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 16 hours ago, Fabulin said: It sure can be a hard pill to swallow for sure that Williams doesn't really want to compose music like his "commercial" works. The implication is that there is not a single composer in the world who both can compose such music and would want to if the Spielbergs and the Lucases were to be taken away. I don't think this is what Williams means. He says time and again that even at his age, he loves scoring films, especially when they "turn him on," to use his phrase. It is more of a both/and versus either/or. Jurassic Shark and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 19 hours ago, Drew said: I wish his concert music was more like his soundtracks. I disagree with the idea that they have to be so different. Come on! This is TOTALLY an action cue: Some of his concert works are more accesible than others, I personally like a lot of them in their different terms. Like I *love* the Scherzo for Piano which a lot of people here find quite "noisy", but I also love Highwood’s Ghost, which I find quite accesible and very evocative. I also adore Rounds, which explores the Guitar in a such a fantastic fashion, Soundings which has a bit of everything in terms of how accesible it is (it starts very experimental and it ends jery jubilee-like, in what we associate more typically with Williams' music), the Viola Concerto with that lovely duel between the Timpani and the Viola; and lastly the Essay for Strings comes to mind, which is very film-music-y to my ears, particularly in its second half. That's what I like about his concert works, you got a bit of everything! Disco Stu and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 19 minutes ago, Muad'Dib said: the Viola Concerto My personal 3 favorite of his concerti are the trumpet, the harp, and the viola. Muad'Dib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 17 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: My personal 3 favorite of his concerti are the trumpet, the harp, and the viola. Oooh, forgot about the Harp! Good one! Have to listen to the Trumpet again, don't have it very fresh tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,272 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 I'm really only familiar with The Five Sacred Trees but I'd love to explore more of his non-film work. Is there a breakdown somewhere of all the various concerti he's written and recordings he personally conducted? Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,397 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 I'd love to see them all in one place too to explore beyond the bassoon and cello one! crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,071 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 8 hours ago, Thor said: Wow, I found the ad I was thinking about by googling. As it turns out, it wasn't about Steinways or pianos at all, but rather about JVC stereo systems! But the faint memory of Williams sitting behind a piano with a quote was correct. This might have been used on other magazines than National Geographic, but that's where I first saw it: (sorry for this rather off-topic tangent; but I kinda got obsessed with it once this John Williams ad was mentioned earlier in the thread). Thanks @Thor ! I was just thinking of this ad trying to remember that it had a piano and then you posted it, I still have this in somewhere.Do you remember which issue of NAT GEOGRAPHIC this was ? When I became aware of John Williams after my soundtrack to Superman; this was the first time I knew how he looked like!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SteveMc 2,674 Posted May 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 7, 2021 13 minutes ago, Holko said: I'd love to see them all in one place too to explore beyond the bassoon and cello one! I'll try to work on something like this, stay tuned. crumbs, eitam, Muad'Dib and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,384 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Amer said: Thanks @Thor ! I was just thinking of this ad trying to remember that it had a piano and then you posted it, I still have this in somewhere.Do you remember which issue of NAT GEOGRAPHIC this was ? When I became aware of John Williams after my soundtrack to Superman; this was the first time I knew how he looked like!! Alas, no. My dad recently threw away all his National Geographics, as my parents are moving to a smaller place, so can't really check. It was one of my earliest introductions to his appearance too -- or at least right around the time I saw his face on the internet for the first time. The magazine issue itself, however, was from the 70s or 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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