WampaRat 1,105 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I’ve always skipped this track when starting on this Indy journey. It’s terrific in the film. But I tend to start with “Indy Negotiates”. Do you skip the “Anything Goes” track? Also, do you ever skip the “Temple of Doom” track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Datameister 2,042 Posted May 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2021 Hell no to both. "Anything Goes" is a weird-ass way to start an Indiana Jones movie, but it's too fun an arrangement to skip. The Sanskrit sacrifice material is some of the scariest music JW has written and I would never dream of skipping it. WilliamsStarShip2282, Holko, Miguel Andrade and 6 others 5 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I love the song and often start there, though I admit there are also times when I skip straight to Fast Streets of Shanghai. It doesn't really matter though as I almost never listen to this score all the way through in one sitting. I usually just pick pieces of it to listen to. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bellosh 3,418 Posted May 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2021 Anything Goes - Never. I've always loved that opening number and scene. It sets the stage for what's to come...literally (the dancers pull the ribbons (hearts) out of the breast pockets) Temple of Doom - Honestly....sometimes...I do enjoy it, but it's really only cause I'm eager to get to 'Short Round Escapes thru End Credits' (using the Concord release). Arguably the most enjoyable, frantic, action cue sequences JW has ever scored. Bespin, SingeMoisi and Andy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 "Nope", and, indeed, "Hell, no!". Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 The only time where I skip JW tracks is when I don't have the time to listen to the whole album so no for Temple of Doom. Anything Goes is a magical arrangement which is really a great part of the movie (this opening credit is absolutely brillant) so I can't skip this track unlike the Always' songs... SingeMoisi and Bespin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 7,495 Posted May 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2021 No, they're both part of Williams' original album program and provide both an unusual start, and a surprisingly dark turn in the musical journey about midway. Little flavours that break up the more streamlined adventure music. Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Smeltington, oierem and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post oierem 152 Posted May 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2021 No and no. And I've never been able to understand why people tend to make such a distinction between source music and underscore. Anything goes is not just used as an opening song (which includes an intro, which would technically count as part of the score, not part of the song). It's later used during the action music as well. And the Temple of Doom music is used again in the climax between Indy and Mola Ram. Holko, Jurassic Shark and Bespin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 4 hours ago, A. A. Ron said: I love the song and often start there Which song? The album contains many songs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I already love Cole Porter anyway so Cole Porter plus Williams is definitely non-skippable for me. Jurassic Shark and WampaRat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 638 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 We were just talking about this piece's inclusion in the movie two weeks ago, then this past week with the community band we played this awful arrangement of the Temple of Doom arrangement of Anything Goes, so that's weird it would come up a third time so soon. To answer the question, it's always been an essential part of the Temple of Doom listening experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 What's your favorite take on Anything Goes? IMO, it's hard to beat Ella and Frank, both released in 1956, arranged by Bregman and Riddle, respectively. WampaRat and Smeltington 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aenae 41 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 30 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: What's your favorite take on Anything Goes? IMO, it's hard to beat Ella and Frank, both released in 1956, arranged by Bregman and Riddle, respectively. Between those two I definitely prefer the Riddle arrangement for Sinatra (thank goodness Riddle arranged Ella's Gershwin songbook set and not Bregman or Billy May). I quite enjoy listening to the Paul Whiteman 1934 recording for the band performance (the vocal is mediocre), it feels closer to the source somehow and I just enjoy the sound of 20s/30s radio/dance bands really. Also, I did see the musical revival starring Sutton Foster in NYC n 2012. The version I can't help kind of enjoying and feel guilty about it, just because they're such a weird and cheesy group is the 60s pop version by Harpers Bizarre (a group that was connected with Randy Newman actually). Definitely a novelty oddity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Between those two I definitely prefer the Riddle arrangement for Sinatra (thank goodness Riddle arranged Ella's Gershwin songbook set and not Bregman or Billy May). Yes and yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Yes and yes. The Ella and Riddle "Someone to Watch Over Me" is one of the great recordings that makes life worth living. Miguel Andrade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,310 Posted May 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2021 It's an absolutely pitch-perfect opening track for the absurd film, and score, that follows. The entire context is contained in the song title! Utterly unskippable. oierem, Holko, Disco Stu and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,480 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I absolutely love the opening sequence of TOD, and so the "Anything Goes" track! This is a big part of why I love this film so much. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: The Ella and Riddle "Someone to Watch Over Me" is one of the great recordings that makes life worth living. That album is so full of great singing/arrangements/playing, and her voice at the time was utterly sublime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 57 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: What's your favorite take on Anything Goes? IMO, it's hard to beat Ella and Frank, both released in 1956, arranged by Bregman and Riddle, respectively. I love Cole Porter's intros to his songs, which are sometimes omitted. I like that Ella's includes it. The intros for You're the Top and I Get a Kick Out of You are my favorite parts of their respective songs. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,192 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 10 hours ago, Datameister said: Hell no to both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted May 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2021 No to both. I always have found it extremely impressive that Kate Capshaw could sing the tune so eloquently and fluently and seemingly with ease. The Temple of Doom scene always creeped me out when I was a kid so listening to it brings me back to that time and place LOL 9 hours ago, Bellosh said: Anything Goes - Never. I've always loved that opening number and scene. It sets the stage for what's to come...literally (the dancers pull the ribbons (hearts) out of the breast pockets) Just watched the scene on Youtube and never realized this before you pointed it out, thanks! Bellosh, Loert and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,654 Posted May 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2021 The opening sequence of TOD achieves in 4 minutes a level of absurd greatness that Spielberg spent of the entirety of 1941 trying to pull off. Marian Schedenig, Holko, crumbs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 12 hours ago, Datameister said: Hell no to both. "Anything Goes" is a weird-ass way to start an Indiana Jones movie, but it's too fun an arrangement to skip. The Sanskrit sacrifice material is some of the scariest music JW has written and I would never dream of skipping it. That! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,352 Posted May 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2021 I'm sure there have been times where I skipped it, but as a general rule, hell no would I ever skip it! I don't like musicals, I would never choose to sit down and listen to "normal" versions of this song for my own enjoyment or anything, but this version as the start of this score is essential! For one thing, the opening 40 seconds (1M1 High Life In Hong Kong) is such a brilliant and great way to start the entire score (and film), I would never want to skip it. But then, JW's arrangement of the Porter song is just SO GOOD, I love and enjoy it every time. Not just every single element of the orchestration, but Capshaw's vocals, too! It likely helps for me to enjoy it that it's entirely sung in Shanghainese so I have no clue what the actual lyrics are about, and am not distracted by whatever imagery the original song is supposed to evoke. Of course, leaving the "anything goes!" parts in English is perfect, I love that choice especially thinking about how that phrase really does describe the entire movie very well. I just love this entire opening to the film so much Ricard, Andy, Holko and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,418 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 One of the best parts of ToD, both film and score, is that by the time Mola Ram is crocodile food and Indy reveals he saved one stone at the top of cliff, you completely forget the film begins with this piece and the setting. The contrast (as it was intended) is great and unlike anything in the other films. Smeltington and oierem 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 638 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Jay said: But then, JW's arrangement of the Porter song is just SO GOOD, He's just such a master at arranging golden age musical theater songs. Between this arrangement, which I mentioned before having come up recently TWICE separately because it's so good, and Fiddler on the Roof, it's almost a crime he was unable to do West Side Story. On top of all that, with his relationship with Bernstein, what a bummer it was they wouldn't wait for Williams to be available. I'll never let that one go. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Well, it seems the music to WSS will be quite close to Bernie's original intentions, so there wouldn't have been much room for JW to be creative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Never. I love it. My only complaint is that it's ruined Anything Goes for me... I've never heard another version I like nearly as much, it's usually somewhat slower and usually more repetitive. If I remember correctly, JW did the arrangements too? I miss the full symphonic arrangement elsewhere too. Plus, who doesn't love Cole Porter in Cantonese? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 It's not Cantonese, nor is it Mandarin - it's Shanghainese Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Just now, Jay said: It's not Cantonese, nor is it Mandarin - it's Shanghainese Oops, my bad. I'm sure I read in a review it was Cantonese, but I stand corrected. Nothing like a factual inaccuracy to ruin a mildly humorous comment ;-) Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,352 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 And yes, it was arranged by JW himself tmarps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: Oops, my bad. I'm sure I read in a review it was Cantonese, but I stand corrected. Nothing like a factual inaccuracy to ruin a mildly humorous comment ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 I don't skip it. i sing along. Bespin and Bellosh 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romão 2,274 Posted May 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2021 If there's one detail I absolutely love about that opening sequence is how Willie Scott is standing in front of the title card. It's so cheeky, so wonderfully over the top: Muad'Dib, Loert, Bellosh and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,310 Posted May 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2021 It's a clever subversion too, because (outside a brief glance of patrons sitting at a table) it's designed to give the impression you're about to enter the titular "Temple of Doom," complete with JW's 'scary' music as the camera moves into the 'fire.' Clearly the nightclub dance is intended to parallel the human-sacrifice 'dance number' in the actual Temple. @Bellosh already pointed out the connection between the heart-tearing and the dancers' red ribbons, but there's plenty of other parallels. The percussionist that signals the arrival of the main performer (Willie/Mola Ram). Some type of monolithic demon with "fire" emanating from its mouth, at the center of the dance: The pose in front of the 'demon'! You could make the case that Willie running down the ramp carrying that giant red ribbon behind her is an abstract representation of this: It's a reverse of the sacrificial dances in Peter Jackson's King Kong (you first see the natives performing the sacrifice on Skull Island, then later a bunch of actors performing a whitewashed version on stage). Holko, chinaismine, Jay and 9 others 7 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,525 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 siiiigh Now I want to watch this great movie again for what seems like the 5th time in the past year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 I was looking over some TOD discussions from a decade ago, and my views on the film have changed more than I remembered. I still think it's a silly romp with very little in common with my beloved Raiders, but I can better appreciate the love it gets from its fans. And I'm embarrassed to admit I never noticed some of the parallels being brought up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,525 Posted May 22, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Datameister said: I still think it's a silly romp Well, that's just it! One of the best envisioned amd executed large scale silly romps ever. Datameister, crumbs and Ricard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danbeck 123 Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Never skip Anything Goes - the introduction of this track is essential as the introduction of the score - so suspensefull and exciting. The Temple chant I do skip sometimes (but usually not). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 One of the biggest missed opportunities in KotCS is that Spielberg didn't ask Williams to arrange a big orchestral bombast that segues tounge-in-cheek into the Elvis song playing on the radio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Sometime I fast forward through it in the rare occasions I watch the film. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,516 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 As much as South America 1936 is a great musical opening, for RAIDERS..., Anything Goes is a wonderful curtain raiser, for T.O.D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 On 5/21/2021 at 3:20 PM, Smeltington said: The intros for You're the Top and I Get a Kick Out of You are my favorite parts of their respective songs. They're top and I also get a kick out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Just don't get them under your skin... Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,067 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Regarding the tracks of the OST I'd say anything goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsch 115 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 It's too much fun for me to skip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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