Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Reworking? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 Arrangement then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I don't see any connection at all between these 2 songs... Except for the fact that they were written by the same composer and are of a similar style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 Have you compared the melodies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Have you paid attention to the melodies? Do you know Cole Porter? He's written hundreds of songs. And half of them sound similar to each other. I think calling this an arrangement or a reworking is going a bit too far. They're just similar. At least that's what I think. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 23, 2021 Author Share Posted May 23, 2021 Just now, Josh500 said: Do you know Cole Porter? He's written hundreds of songs. And half of them sound similar to each other. I love Cole Porter, but don't find half of his output similar to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Definitely just a rework of the old song. I mean, musicians had copyright lawsuits on less similarities. Ricard and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 Definitely can hear the similarity.New for me since I have difficulties to listen to these older scores. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I wouldn't say that it's a reworking because from what I can understand Williams rarely comes back to his older writtings. I think it's more a coincidence if Moonlight does clearly have a similar melody as Make Me Rainbows. Williams apparently did have twice the same idea and if not I'll go for a rearrangement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 An arrangement is the same as a reworking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 39 minutes ago, May the Force be with You said: Williams apparently did have twice the same idea I guess, that's exactly the point. And I would say, that is completely ok for a film composer writing between 3 and 10 hours of music per year and who states regularly that he hardly looks back at his previous works. But still, it is musically almost the same song. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 796 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Well, the two songs are very similar melodically speaking. Part of the reason I’ve always prefered How Can I Remember, one of the best songs Williams ever wrote. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,326 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 I know, How Can I Remember was there before, but it reminds me too much of Matthew Wilder's Reflection from Mulan which I like much better. So, to me Reflection always was the song that How Can I Remember longed to be but never was. I know, it's unfair, but that's how I feel about the song. I just knew the Mulan song first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 2 hours ago, GerateWohl said: How Can I Remember I can't remember how that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 Well I do now! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 24, 2021 Author Share Posted May 24, 2021 It only counts if you vote! 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,463 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Quote Do you consider Moonlight (Sabrina) a reworking of Make me Rainbows (Fitzwilly)? In a way, yes, although we can't know for sure untill we ask him. But I do think he used the same melodic idea and repurposed it for SABRINA. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted May 25, 2021 Author Share Posted May 25, 2021 I'd say it's either a conscious reworking or an unconscious act of self-plagiarism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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