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94th Academy Awards (2022 ceremony for 2021 films)


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1 hour ago, GerateWohl said:

Chris Rock and Will Smith really gave a bad example that evening.

I think, this gave teachers food for month to discuss with their classes at school topics like respect, disrespect, how to handle conflicts, how not to handle conflicts etc.

 

Yeah. If you're going to hit someone, do it with an open fist. Then they're less likely to press charges.

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Actually, yesterday's ceremony was an utter disaster, and not just because of the whole Smith/Rock fiasco. 

 

Here's a funny breakdown of all the Academy's poor choices:

 

https://www.indiewire.com/2022/03/2022-academy-awards-review-bad-show-will-smith-1234711870/

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20 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

This year's Oscars will be known as the "Will Smith slapping Chris Rock" Oscars, much like the 2017 ceremony is only remembered for the disaster involving La La Land and Moonlight.

 

Or the 2016 Oscars, with the Intrada vs. Varese incident.

 

8 hours ago, Thor said:

Norwegians were mostly interested in the two noms for THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD. Sadly, it got none.

 

Well, it's an overrated film.

 

8 hours ago, Thor said:

I'm very thrilled that Zimmer won for DUNE. It was not only the single score nom I felt was deserved this year, it was also my second favourite score of last year. That it annoys this board's many Zimmer haters is just an added bonus. :)

 

You just love it for the extremely long album releases. :)

 

8 hours ago, Thor said:

The Smith/Rock situation was bizarre. I've only seen the brief clips, which -- as alluded to above -- seem to indicate him laughing first, then suddenly turning.

 

It was obviously an exaggerated, sarcastic laugh.

 

8 hours ago, King Mark said:

I already knew before they read the winners it was going to be Encanto, the deaf sign language actor, the woman director , Will Smith to make up for the unexpected win of Anthony Hopkins over  Chadwick Bosman last year, and Jessica Chastain because her role was somewhat LGBTQ related.

 

Not to mention the German sound designer.

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38 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

 

That really made me smile:

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...This was done, they said, to save time. Running long was the ultimate enemy of the Oscars telecast.

This year’s Oscars was the longest ceremony since 2018, running a full 39 minutes over their allotted time.

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In the first opening monologue, Wanda Sykes joked that “The Power of the Dog” was too long. “I watched that movie three times, and I’m almost halfway through.” The film is shorter than seven of the 10 Best Picture nominees. Perhaps this was an earlier indicator that the Academy has a fuzzy relationship with time, as a concept.

 

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15 minutes ago, GerateWohl said:

The film is shorter than seven of the 10 Best Picture nominees. Perhaps this was an earlier indicator that the Academy has a fuzzy relationship with time, as a concept.

 

LOL

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I never heard of CODA.

Is it a music biopic?

1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

Yeah. If you're going to hit someone, do it with an open fist. Then they're less likely to press charges.

So, I can slap JTW and get away with it?😰😗

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13 minutes ago, Bayesian said:

If this thing blows over for Will Smith, it'll be in large part because of Chris Rock's class act response -- rolling with the punch (literally) and not making any kind of reaction to it (which, incidentally, allowed people to originally wonder if it was all being staged), managing to crack a joke to break the tension even after the show's producers did nothing, and then publicly stating he wouldn't press charges. Rock will come out the winner here, I feel, even if his joke was in poor taste. Which it was.

 

Lol. This, along with most media headlines, is a pretty one-sided take. Chris was the provacateur. He's been cracking low-blow "jokes" and going after Jada for some time now. And alopecia, is not something to joke about.

 

Assault is clearly wrong. But Chris was the one in control here. He knew what he was doing, and he is no hero.

 

2 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Actually, yesterday's ceremony was an utter disaster, and not just because of the whole Smith/Rock fiasco. 

 

Here's a funny breakdown of all the Academy's poor choices:

 

https://www.indiewire.com/2022/03/2022-academy-awards-review-bad-show-will-smith-1234711870/

 

Ha! Had no idea this was the longest ceremony since 2018...what a joke! So they cut 8 categories, and STILL went overtime with stupid twitter lists and BTS talking about why they like the new Aladdin?

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10 hours ago, King Mark said:

 You seriously think the awards go to who is actually the best nowadays? 

Most of the awards  go to the nominees who fill out the most diversity and inclusion checkboxes.

 

I already knew before they read the winners it was going to be Encanto, the deaf sign language actor, the woman director , Will Smith to make up for the unexpected win of Anthony Hopkins over  Chadwick Bosman last year, and Jessica Chastain because her role was somewhat LGBTQ related.

Well, if you look back at my predictions I kinda made the same point.

I was wrong about Zimmer losing to a guy with an Hispanic name, though😅

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5 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said:

Smith shoulda slapped whoever was responsible for deciding NTTD deserved Best Song. 

 

Agreed. But a Bond song always wins that category. Second to that, will be a Disney/Pixar song.

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6 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said:

Smith shoulda slapped whoever was responsible for deciding NTTD deserved Best Song. 

Well, the song was okay, but the performance lacked something...

like a performance😄😅

2 minutes ago, KK said:

 

 

Agreed. But a Bond song always wins that category. Second to that, will be a Disney/Pixar song.

So few films have original songs these days.

It used to be common

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2 hours ago, GerateWohl said:

No. The fight should not have taken place at all.

Smith should either immediately or later have later demanded an appology from Rock.

 

Or he or his wife could have told Rock that what he said was distasteful and disrespectful. Or they could have sued him. What he shouldn't have done is assault, and it had zero consequences, and he was given an Oscar like everything was all right. His award should be revoked and he should be banned. 

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47 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

I never heard of CODA.

Is it a music biopic?

So, I can slap JTW and get away with it?😰😗

What is wrong with you, man?

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It's a good thing they revoked the mask mandates.

If Smith ran up on stage in a mask, the LAPD would have put forty bullets in.him.

😣😒

Just now, JTW said:

What is wrong with you, man?

What's wrong with me?

I act like an adult, I guess

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10 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

 

It's a good thing they revoked the mask mandates.

If Smith ran up on stage in a mask, the LAPD would have put forty bullets in.him.

😣😒

What's wrong with me?

I act like an adult, I guess

Is that what you call acting like an adult? Talking about slapping someone who you disagree with? And now I'm sure you're going to call it a joke. I have reported you because this kind of behavior is unacceptable. 

9 minutes ago, Ricard said:

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Well, his cursing twice on live television didn't look like it was staged. 

Rock thought Smith would hug him or maybe slap him gently, that's why leaned in, but he clearly didn't anticipate being slapped that hard. But Smith wasn't as fast as Bruce Lee, and he saw the slap coming.

"Keep my wife's name out of your f.cking mouth! Keep my wife's name out of your F.CKING mouth!" isn't something that would be staged without beeping it out on live television watched by millions of people worldwide, including children. 

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3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

That's what Will Smith should have done!

He shouldn't have done anything. He initially did the best thing possible: he laughed at the joke, like everyone else in the room did, except for his wife, who then pushed Smith into acting like a berzerker. 

 

If the Smith's hadn't laughed, Rock would have apologized later and everyone would've blamed him. What Smith did, was so wrong that nobody cares about Rock's possible distasteful joke (which, if he knew about JPS's condition, it was, but if he didn't know about it, it wasn't imho). 

Smith was forced into this assault by his wife, and he absolutely overreacted, that is inexcusable. 

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3 minutes ago, bruce marshall said:

I'm reporting you for that remark.😉

You're still acting like a child, Bruce.

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3 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Sociopath?

I'm not their psychiatrist... 

2 minutes ago, GerateWohl said:

I guess, originally someone else was the winner, but they changed it on short notice after Smith's assault, impressed by his performance.

Best performance of his career? 

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29 minutes ago, JTW said:

Is that what you call acting like an adult? Talking about slapping someone who you disagree with? And now I'm sure you're going to call it a joke. I have reported you because this kind of behavior is unacceptable. 

Well, his cursing twice on live television didn't look like it was staged. 

Rock thought Smith would hug him or maybe slap him gently, that's why leaned in, but he clearly didn't anticipate being slapped that hard. But Smith wasn't as fast as Bruce Lee, and he saw the slap coming.

"Keep my wife's name out of your f.cking mouth! Keep my wife's name out of your F.CKING mouth!" isn't something that would be staged without beeping it out on live television watched by millions of people worldwide, including children. 

 

That was intentional, to sell the idea this was serious. It is ironic that a rapper who never swore in his songs would use that word, but that's why some markets use the tape delay, to censor out all the fuck words. 

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43 minutes ago, KK said:

This, along with most media headlines, is a pretty one-sided take.

 

Not without good reason. Will Smith tipped the balance decidedly against himself when he decided to resort to violence. If his outburst had been purely verbal there would, at the very least, have been much more equivocation in these headlines; he may well even have come out of it portrayed as the virtuous one in contrast to Rock's nasty provocateur. But that's not how it was.

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If he'd limited it to a non-sweary but verbal comeback, we'd be probably talking about how Smith stood up for his wife.

 

But he resorted immediately to physical violence. TBH, I'm surprised that he wasn't escorted from his seat, at least after a few moments once the producers had realised what had happened. What would a theatre owner do if a patron walked on stage and hit an actor? They'd be out of there.

 

Both Rock and Smith made bad decisions last night but I think Smith's was worse. So many more professional and dignified ways to handle it.

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2 hours ago, JTW said:

Well, his cursing twice on live television didn't look like it was staged. 

Rock thought Smith would hug him or maybe slap him gently, that's why leaned in, but he clearly didn't anticipate being slapped that hard. But Smith wasn't as fast as Bruce Lee, and he saw the slap coming.

"Keep my wife's name out of your f.cking mouth! Keep my wife's name out of your F.CKING mouth!" isn't something that would be staged without beeping it out on live television watched by millions of people worldwide, including children. 

 

Agreed. I hadn't seen the whole thing before posting the meme.

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1 hour ago, Jay said:

He should have been escorted out. And his Oscar should still be revoked to send a clear message to people like Smith that this kind of behavior isn’t tolerated at the most prestigious award show in the world. 
If this had been Matt Damon, George Clooney or Brad Pitt, a white man, slapping Rock, would the same thing have happened, I wonder? Or they would have been escorted out, called a racist, and their award revoked? 

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I don't think there has ever been an actor whose career ended on the same day he won an Oscar. 

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42 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Will can always make a new Men in Black movie or a sequel to Aladdin.

I don't think so. He ruined Spielberg's night (MIB is co-produced by Amblin), and the Oscars airs on ABC, which is owned by Disney that won't hire Smith after he's being cancelled by the public. The studios don't want to lose money on an actor whose movies people are not going to watch. So I don't think Smith will recover from this fiasco anytime soon. 

32 minutes ago, Positivatee said:

 

He was already in talks for I Am Legend 2.

It's now called I WAS LEGEND and it's a biopic.

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Just now, mstrox said:

His career is not over.  People who have done far worse continue to have fruitful Hollywood careers.

Far worse than smacking someone in the face at the Academy Awards watched by entire Hollywood and millions of people, including children worldwide? I don't think so. 

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