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On 6/8/2021 at 7:33 PM, DarthDementous said:

The budget for a single episode of TV, even one as high as The Mandalorian, still pales in comparison to the budget of a full blockbuster movie.

 

As a result, due to budget constraints, Luke in the Mandalorian isn’t even fully CGI - it’s a form of deepfake using ILM’s proprietary tech they’ve been developing 

Yeah, different techniques, time frames. Ant-Man and the Marvel films use Lola VFX, a studio specialized in de-aging; they do it by hand, almost like photoshopping each frame. On The Mandalorian I can't tell whether they tried to be bold and push their tech or if they rushed it carelessly and the results were less than ideal. Rogue One was a traditional CGI approach, unlike Lola, they modeled, motion captured and rendered Leia and Tarkin over a year and a half.

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Only just occurred to me, we'll get new parade/march source music (maybe intertwined with score, ala Nightclub Brawl from TOD)!

 

I guess the question is whether Williams will write something original, or just record music that would have played at the actual event?

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It probably won't be that way, but I would be more than okay with a ticker tape parade set to the ol' Raiders March, with an old Indy tired but smiling, having had secretely saved the day. Like the TOD end scene.

 

 

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4 hours ago, Fabulin said:

It probably won't be that way, but I would be more than okay with a ticker tape parade set to the ol' Raiders March, with an old Indy tired but smiling, having had secretely saved the day. Like the TOD end scene.

 

 

 

Strikes me more as a first act setpiece, maybe a foot chase with Indy being chased by spooks in a large crowd, weaving through the parade or something.

 

It's nice to see a return of Indy clashing with real life historical events again.

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On 6/11/2021 at 4:21 PM, Cerebral Cortex said:

 

It would have allowed Williams to get away with reusing Anthem of Evil since he barely got to use it in TROS. 

 

Anthem of Evil plays pretty heavily throughout TROS. Limited grand statements, but when I listen to the soundtrack it seems like I hear Anthem of Evil in almost every track on the CD.

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"Since we barely got to hear it" would have been better wording on my part. At least in the mixing of the version I watched, I had difficulty actually being able to hear it except for in a handful of moments. 

 

It was a bad joke on my part regardless. 

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3 hours ago, Cerebral Cortex said:

"Since we barely got to hear it" would have been better wording on my part. At least in the mixing of the version I watched, I had difficulty actually being able to hear it except for in a handful of moments. 

 

It was a bad joke on my part regardless. 

 

Oh, you were speaking in terms of the film mix. Yeah, modern film mixes are absolutely atrocious. Compared to the sound mixes of the first films in these respective franchises (Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark), films like The Force Awakens just sound so...bad. There's just no other way to describe it.

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Loved watch that video of the original parade. I’m very excited to see a new Indy adventure set in that era. 
 

It’s just so crazy to think that in about six years from that parade, Spielberg would have released Jaws.

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On 6/12/2021 at 6:18 AM, Muad'Dib said:

 

The trick will be on the movements and the voice.

 

They can fix that though!  In Mandalorian, they perfectly de-aged Hamill's voice to match ROTJ era. 

 

 

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7 hours ago, karelm said:

 

They can fix that though!  In Mandalorian, they perfectly de-aged Hamill's voice to match ROTJ era. 

 

 

I don't think Hamill recorded a performance and they de-aged his voice, because he was surprised when Luke showed up on The Mandalorian, which implies that he wasn't directly involved. I think we're actually seeing a form of audio deep-fake there where a neural network trained on samples of young Mark Hamill has then been set to recreate certain sentences with perhaps some additional parameters for tweaking performance (although it does sound rather robotic). You can hear a bit of audio artefacts in some of the lines.

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5 hours ago, DarthDementous said:

I don't think Hamill recorded a performance and they de-aged his voice, because he was surprised when Luke showed up on The Mandalorian, which implies that he wasn't directly involved. I think we're actually seeing a form of audio deep-fake there where a neural network trained on samples of young Mark Hamill has then been set to recreate certain sentences with perhaps some additional parameters for tweaking performance (although it does sound rather robotic). You can hear a bit of audio artefacts in some of the lines.

He was directly involved.  John Favreau talked about it here at 4 minutes in.

 

https://www.goodmorningamerica.com/culture/video/jon-favreau-talks-season-finale-mandalorian-74839269

 

 

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On 7/13/2021 at 3:57 PM, crumbs said:

 

Strikes me more as a first act setpiece, maybe a foot chase with Indy being chased by spooks in a large crowd, weaving through the parade or something.

 

It's nice to see a return of Indy clashing with real life historical events again.

Well, now we know.

Indiana Jones 5 filming in Glasgow! SPOILERS Boyd Holbrook Phoebe Waller-Bridge AMAZING PICTURES 0-47 screenshot.png

 

Boyd Holbrook, looking acceptable as Mutt +10 years.

 

And here: Mutt's stunt double on a motorcycle.

 

Therefore, Mutt confirmed recast with Boyd Holbrook.

 

The Adventures of Mutt can now be expected to return in some form :) 

Also, since Indy is on horseback, the chances for at least one statement of the Raiders March during the parade are rising.

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If this is Mutt (and it appears so), I would love for Williams to develop the descending Indy variation he toyed with at the conclusion of the end credits.  

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I’m glad I watched this thread. I now have a while to convince my brain that this is mutt. I won’t spend the entire runtime of the movie trying to be convinced.

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4 hours ago, blondheim said:

The end of the end credits is one of the best moments in KOTCS.

 

Yes! 

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This week Lucasfilm announced there will be a special episode of the Disney Gallery docuseries on the Luke cameo due next month. Hopefully we'll get some insight into the technique and their intentions with it.

 

This goes without saying but I do hope they use a more mature and proven technique on this film.

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I would imagine they resorted to such a technique on Mando to save time, save money, and use less resources to ultimately help keep it a secret. This last part is supported further in how those scenes were tweaked and improved after the episode was released. I would be very surprised if they use that same technique on Indy.

 

I think it's more likely that they'll be resorting to what ILM has continued to perfect with their work on stuff like The Irishman and the Marvel films (and more aptly perhaps what ImageEngine did with Mangold's Logan) in that there will be an active CG model imposed over the actor/stand-in because of both how much better the achievable results are and how much more flexibility you have over the end result. They might already even have a current Harrison Ford model bopping around their servers for when they worked on TFA. 

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Wow. That’s so cool to see kind of a “timeline” for the various locations and sets. For my part it didn’t feel spoiled at all. Just more excited to see it. The sequence with, what appears to be, Ford’s stunt double riding a horse through the parade will be a fun musical opportunity for Williams. I imagine it will be the Basket Games-esque scene for this picture. Just please don’t score every action scene like that Mr. Williams🙏

 

PS- Looks like Mangold’s checked the box for the “Giant Goon/Thug” character 😃Fingers crossed he gets a grizzly end! 

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3 hours ago, Fabulin said:

P.S. A final thought, on Jones being old: in East-Asian cultures it is completely normal to have stories of 80-year old monks, warlords or martial arts masters kicking ass.

 

 

I also don't have a problem with aging characters. Ursula K. Le Guin's Earthsea saga ends with the child character introduced in the first book in his old age. She said of the final book something along the lines of "there are not enough stories about characters aging, and we all age". So I don't mind at all an older Indy. 

 

Havig said that, is it just me or does Harrison look in better shape these days compared to when he filmed Indy 4? That photo posted earlier of Harrison walking around London with a sling on his arm, and before that a photo of him cyclying. He does not look his age at all.  

 

And thanks for all the photos. I'm here for all the spoilers I can get! Always been more of a music fan. Having said that, the Indy films - well the first three - were certainly part of my childhood. Looking forward to the movie, but looking forward to the score a million times more, and I prefer seeing all these set shots. It sets my mind wandering what possible musical gems are in store. More excited for the score and music as a result. 

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Harrison is surely enjoying the free moments he has outside of the filming:

 

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On 7/19/2021 at 7:16 PM, Fabulin said:

I've done a bit of digging...

 

and think that the film is going to have really cool aesthetics:

 

The "Wolfenstein" opener:

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Cool locations:

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Fancy old-fashioned interiors:

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Old-fashioned New York, with an All-American parade:

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Actors looking really good, wearing suits or uniforms in many scenes, which reminds me of that polished feel of Tom Cruise and Henry Cavill's M:I: Fallout

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More vehicle / action eye-candy

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Mangold is doing a good job, he is an energetic director like Spielberg when the latter was young.

Showtime: The director looked in his element as he waved his hands about before the scene beganAction: Prior to the scene, director James Mangold could be seen giving the actor instructions as he aggressively ran through the band

He is certainly not a couch-sitting grandpa Lucas, and after Logan's handling of de-aging and CGI and the overall competence of Ford vs. Ferrari, I have full confidence that this film is guaranteed to be enjoyable, whether it ultimately rises to the level of the original trilogy or not (I have recently rewatched The Temple of Doom and I have to say that the bar is not always that high).

 

After TROS (how technically impressive that score was despite the mess and nonsense of a film it accompanied), and with Williams's recent ambitious plans (Vienna, Berlin, Boston, New York, Violin Concerto No. 2...), I think maestro is going to really make an effort to close another series of scores with one better than KOTCS. The only missing factor influencing the potential for a soaring scoring is the for now unknown editing style of the film.

 

P.S. A final thought, on Indiana Jones being old: in East-Asian cultures it is completely normal to have stories of 80-year old monks, warlords or martial arts masters kicking ass.

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People enjoy them for their symbolic value, even if a literal reading seems hard to believe. I think a ca. 70-years-old Indy, helped by guns, wits, and younger allies, is not going to look ridiculous if the fight scene choreography is done with a brain.

 


July 29, 2022 CANNOT COME ANY FASTER!!!

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6 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Harrison is surely enjoying the free moments he has outside of the filming:

 

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Wonder if they’ll work in an intense bicycle chase just for him? 😃

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5 minutes ago, WampaRat said:

Wonder if they’ll work in an intense bicycle chase just for him? 😃

 

It's kinda funny to imagine Indy riding a bicycle away from bad guys. That would actually be quite fun! A nice twist on the usual motorbike/horseback formula.

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