crumbs 14,300 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, ciarlese said: But nothing to do with "capacity restrictions" mentioned before. Oh, understood. But COVID would explain why so many people who bought tickets weren't able to attend (and couldn't sell tickets at short notice). It's likely that many people weren't able to board flights in their origin country after testing positive, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam0001 6 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, crumbs said: Oh, understood. But COVID would explain why so many people who bought tickets weren't able to attend (and couldn't sell tickets at short notice). It's likely that many people weren't able to board flights in their origin country after testing positive, too. Absolutely, including me. Luckily, I managed to ensure a fellow JW Fan could attend in my absence but not everyone would have been as lucky. Utterly upset about the situation but it is what it is. All the more reason to make Milan happen! Martinland, crumbs, apples and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciarlese 248 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Yes sure. There was even a member here who tested positive a few days ago and put his ticket on sale 😕. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Gutted for you @liam0001, but at least there's always Milan next year! Unfortunately just a reality of international travel for the foreseeable future. Probably wise to self-isolate for two weeks prior, to avoid any risk of contracting COVID. Easier said than done, obviously apples 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Michael G. said: And is it unofficially downloadable? I'm sure it will be rippable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 589 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 hours ago, crumbs said: Should we read anything into this? Were younger players prioritised or more interested in performing under Williams? They played very well. There was no need for the old guard 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Is anyone else in Australia having trouble accessing tonight's repeat livestream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heritage 73 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I was a little disappointed because many Berlin Philharmonic star players were not on board. I haven´t seen Dashin Kashimoto (violin), Ludwig Quandt (Cello), Mathew McDonald (Bass), Emmanuel Pahud and Mathieu Dufour (Flute), Albrecht Mayer (Oboe), Andreas Ottensamer (Clarinet), Stefan Dohr (Horn) to name just a few. Have we seen only the second Guard of the Berlin Philharmonic ? I think a little bit.. apples and MfL85 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steve 589 Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, heritage said: I was a little disappointed because many Berlin Philharmonic star players were not on board. I haven´t seen Dashin Kashimoto (violin), Ludwig Quandt (Cello), Mathew McDonald (Bass), Emmanuel Pahud and Mathieu Dufour (Flute), Albrecht Mayer (Oboe), Andreas Ottensamer (Clarinet), Stefan Dohr (Horn) to name just a few. Have we seen only the second Guard of the Berlin Philharmonic ? I think a little bit.. The substitutes did well. Couldn't have sounded better with the other players.... GerateWohl, bollemanneke, Hugo and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GlastoEls 556 Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 Another nice pic to see us all safely home! St0rMl0rD, Once, crumbs and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heritage 73 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 That is not the topic. But the Berlin Philharmonic has some of the best and most famous soloists in the world. They are famous for that soloists. And when they not on board, then we have seen not the best Performers of the Orchestra. Thats a fact you have to say. Like the Bayern Munich Football Team. When they play without their best players, then they play still good Football. But not the best... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,510 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, heritage said: That is not the topic. But the Berlin Philharmonic has some of the best and most famous soloists in the world. They are famous for that soloists. And when they not on board, then we have seen not the best Performers of the Orchestra. Thats a fact you have to say. Like the Bayern Munich Football Team. When they play without their best players, then they play still good Football. But not the best... However nicely to put it, they literally pulled a Boston Pops on Williams. Even if some of the scholars were amazing, the 20 000 euro / month performers that one can get used to in Berliner Phil recordings were noticeably missing in the sound of the orchestra. Nimbus 2000 showed it best. The group cohesion, agility, and precision there were... mixed. Compare and contrast: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel P. 738 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, heritage said: Like the Bayern Munich Football Team. When they play without their best players, then they play still good Football. But not the best... I really don't think that the lack of a few stars of the Berliner Philharmoniker would have such an impact on their performance at the concert as the absence of Robert Lewandowski in Bayern Munich in a football game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heritage 73 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Funny enough the program booklet does not say that the star solo players are not on board for these concerts. They are all listed in the program booklet. Pawel P.: Not all thats right. But Albrecht Mayer, Stefan Dohr, Andreas Ottensamer, Emmanuel Pahud and Mathieu Dufour are not to be replaced. In no Orchestra of this world... crlbrg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 22 minutes ago, Fabulin said: I have it on a VPN from my local library, but the stream just doesn't load Bizarrely, the stream only worked when I enabled an overseas VPN. Nothing would load from Australia (VPN enabled or otherwise). Quite strange. The feed looks utterly glorious in 4K, I have to say. I really hope they release this on 4K Bluray or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ciarlese 248 Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 Williams says the Jurassic Park piece is the last 5 minutes of the movie: do we all agree that is not the case? bollemanneke, St0rMl0rD, Martinland and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 556 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just now, ciarlese said: Williams says the Jurassic Park piece is the last 5 minutes of the movie: do we will agree that is not the case? Yet another FLUB! tmarps and Martinland 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciarlese 248 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, crumbs said: Bizarrely, the stream only worked when I enabled an overseas VPN. Nothing would load from Australia (VPN enabled or otherwise). Quite strange. The feed looks utterly glorious in 4K, I have to say. I really hope they release this on 4K Bluray or something. I think this is not 4K, it's HD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biodome 714 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, ciarlese said: Williams says the Jurassic Park piece is the last 5 minutes of the movie: do we will agree that is not the case? He was talking about the Composer's Cut Martinland and bigjimwilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Maybe he forgot the island fanfare was actually tracked at the end bigjimwilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo 25 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 14 hours ago, apples said: Noticed quite a few empty seats 🤔 8 hours ago, SteveMc said: I think that was due to covid capacity restrictions 5 hours ago, ciarlese said: There were no restrictions. People were required to have the relevant certificates in order to enter, and wear an ffp2 mask at all time, but no seat was made unavailable because of COVID. 5 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Another super spreader arrangement... probably there is also to consider that many (myself included) had more than one ticket for the same evening. I had two for the evening of the 14th, since I had modified my seat later with a better position. So for example my" first" seat remained empty, this also due to poor management of ticket sales/resale by the Philharmonie...but that's another story. This undoubtedly contributed to the presence of empty seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Wow! So if someone changed their seat, the original didn't go back up for sale? Strange. apples 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo 25 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 hours ago, crumbs said: Probably wise to self-isolate for two weeks prior, to avoid any risk of contracting COVID. I did so (also delivery of food at home...) since I was not fully vaccinated, just to be sure that the day before departure the antigen test was negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 This is very strange, how did they end up with so many empty seats in the one area? Reserved for family that never showed up? apples 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo 25 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, crumbs said: Wow! So if someone changed their seat, the original didn't go back up for sale? Strange. they didn't manage the exchanges. So surely if you didn't sell it to someone it would be empty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archive Collection 214 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, crumbs said: Is anyone else in Australia having trouble accessing tonight's repeat livestream? Try watching it in a lower resolution. I was having trouble this morning (4AM Melbourne time!!) but the lower resolution fixed it for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 37 minutes ago, crumbs said: Bizarrely, the stream only worked when I enabled an overseas VPN. Nothing would load from Australia (VPN enabled or otherwise). Quite strange. The feed looks utterly glorious in 4K, I have to say. I really hope they release this on 4K Bluray or something. What's the sound quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 24 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: What's the sound quality? In a word - glorious! Sounds rich and wide on my Sony WH-1000XM3s, wonderful low-end with the percussion too. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 And in techno-speak? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, crumbs said: Sounds rich and wide on my Sony WH-1000XM3s, wonderful low-end with the percussion too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,024 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 43 minutes ago, Hugo said: they didn't manage the exchanges. So surely if you didn't sell it to someone it would be empty. So you got your money back for the first ticket, but they didn't manage to put it back for sale? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, crumbs said: I mean how many channels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauling 17 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Hace 1 hora, ciarlese dijo: Creo que esto no es 4K, es HD. Could you share the link, please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,374 Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 How many times will I have to conduct this piece...? crlbrg, St0rMl0rD, Raiders of the SoundtrArk and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bigjimwilson 252 Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, crumbs said: This is very strange, how did they end up with so many empty seats in the one area? Reserved for family that never showed up? I think also there might be season ticket holders who aren’t interested in John. There was a lady sat next to us on Thursday who was utterly baffled by the concept of a film music concert. But by the end she was loving it. Marian Schedenig, apples, Martinland and 4 others 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugo 25 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: So you got your money back for the first ticket, but they didn't manage to put it back for sale? No, they did not accept refunds as indicated in the sales agreements. At the limit and in a completely exceptional way, after talking several times with them explaining the situation, there could be the possibility of receiving a voucher not the money back (I didn't need a voucher) and in that case the place would be put up for sale by them. I then continued to leave the ticket for sale. So as I wrote I had two tickets, used only one so there was an empty seat. Maybe for others, the things went the same. However what a wonderful evening!! also my "best" seat turned out to be a great choice, I listened in an incredible way from that seat. In my ears imaging and "stereo" soundstage were perfect, and also the reverb relationship between direct sound, early reflections and decay was incredible (this also thanks to the Philharmonie Hall and its shape). A dream! Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, Chewy said: How many times will I have to conduct this piece...? The perfect musical accompaniment for this GIF: apples 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Damn, so they won't be able to release surround? Or are you saying YOU are listening in stereo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Damn, so they won't be able to release surround? Or are you saying YOU are listening in stereo? The 4K stream was stereo, but it's possible something else will come out later in surround sound. The stream codec was lossy MPEG AAC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MfL85 36 Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, GlastoEls said: Another nice pic to see us all safely home! Lovely pic! Anyone travelling home today, have a safe journey home! Fittingly enough Berlin looks extremely moody today. Once, GlastoEls and crumbs 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,374 Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 After the concert, at the hotel: "Are they still clapping?" Muad'Dib, Holko, WilliamsStarShip2282 and 10 others 12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,337 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, crumbs said: The 4K stream was stereo, but it's possible something else will come out later in surround sound. The stream codec was lossy MPEG AAC. Oh, I see. Well, I wouldn't be too fussed if it remained stereo forever. It will sound terrific anyway. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 On 04/10/2021 at 6:52 PM, BB-8 said: Wonder whether there is something to the rumours that ASM will show-up with Schindlers and Cinders. Nope. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 15 hours ago, Michael G. said: https://www.instagram.com/p/CVGj7Zxg1J-/ LOL this is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 556 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Jay said: LOL this is great It really was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 I hope he's flying to Sicily to cameo as "disgruntled cafe owner" in Indy 5. Jay and St0rMl0rD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 18 hours ago, Ian Stouffer said: For reference, how long was the gap from the Vienna concert to it's Blu-Ray/CD/Vinyl release? I want to own a copy of this concert. The Vienna concerts took place on January 18 & 29 2020, and the BD / CD set arrived on May 4 2020 bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,300 Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 Can't wait to hear that extended clapping epilogue in Dolby Atmos. Biodome, St0rMl0rD, Martinland and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MfL85 36 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 So does anyone know - will John Williams leave Berlin today or stay for some more time. In the concert it sounded like he will return to LA in one or two weeks. Maybe he will rest some days before flying home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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