Fabulin 3,511 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Yea sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,526 Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 It's real damn fun but I wouldn't quite say that. Jurassic Shark, SteveMc, blondheim and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted July 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 1, 2021 It's easily in my Top 10 Star Wars film scores. Jurassic Shark, Jay, GerateWohl and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 For the 2010s it certainly is in the top! For me it’s up there with HTTYD and Force Awakens as the best of that decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTallJodie 59 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 In recent years, absolutely. It stands head and shoulders above the sonic wallpaper most films get these days. Of ALL TIME? The competition there is stiffer, but it's still a lot of fun. Yavar Moradi and Taikomochi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Well Williams did wrote a theme so I think the answer is easy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,448 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Of course it's not on par with the very best film scores of all time... but it's a brilliant score and one of the best of the 2010s, and that is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 968 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 Absolutely! Yes, John Williams wrote some of the themes, but Powell makes them his own in the way he uses them. It also features some of the best action music I’ve heard in the modern era. The complete Train Heist cue is 10 minutes of the best action music I’ve ever heard. Hands down. There are very few composers at the moment who can write extended action music that is interesting and, more importantly, melodic at the same time. James Newton Howard can do it when he feels like it but Powell exceeds in this department. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, LongTallJodie said: In recent years, absolutely. It stands head and shoulders above the sonic wallpaper most films get these days. Of ALL TIME? The competition there is stiffer, but it's still a lot of fun. Exactly. "THE great"? Maybe not, hard to say. But it certainly is great! Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 I do. It's like Powell blended Williams with Goldsmith action writing and went to town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 I like it a lot, but no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,042 Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 I really enjoy most of it. My gut response to the poll question is no, though. Powell's themes don't collectively reach the level of "great" to me, and while I really like his handling of Williams's new themes, I'm less enthusiastic about his handling of previous Williams material. Overall - fun score that fits the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I don't know if Solo is really one of "the great film scores," but it's certainly one of my favorites. I think it's just a little lopsided due to the weaknesses of the film itself, which provided Powell the opportunity to write a ton of fantastic action music for the beginning and middle, but no satisfying climax at the end. That bad ass riff that plays as Qi'ra kills Dryden is the last piece of action music in the movie and unfortunately, it just kind of abruptly ends as the movie itself fizzles into nothingness. The fact that this cue is titled "Dryden's Long, Long Fight" makes me think someone at the scoring stage wished it really was a longer fight, if only to provide a canvas for a better musical resolution. Certainly one expects something a little more dramatic, if not thrilling from the finale of a Star Wars film. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 It's fun, but certainly far from *the* greats. Neither in concept nor execution. And the last SW Williams'ses aren't, either. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,391 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 19 minutes ago, publicist said: And the last SW Williams'ses aren't, either. Edmilson and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Top 50 all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 770 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Good, but not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Is it better than the music of the 70's, 80's and 90's? No. Is it better than most music from the last 20 years? Absolutely. Jurassic Shark and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 There's an option missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,368 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I am not sure if anybody really dares seriously calling a film score one of the great film scores if its movie is just mediocre (even with the score). I don't. Solo too much relies on Star Wars nostalgia, too few really good original ideas. No question, the score is better than the movie. But that applies to at least 80% of all John Williams scored movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 49 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: I am not sure if anybody really dares seriously calling a film score one of the great film scores if its movie is just mediocre (even with the score). Jurassic Park? The Omen? (Just the first two that come to my mind) Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,286 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I guess it depends on the definition of mediocre but the overwhelmingly popular consensus on Jurassic Park is definitely that it's one of the all-time memorable Spielberg/Williams collabs and not just great music in some forgettable movie. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,368 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 36 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: Jurassic Park? The Omen? (Just the first two that come to my mind) But in these two examples I can say that the score managed to lift the movie up by about at least two levels. Not my experience with Solo. The score did not really improve the movie itself. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: The score did not really improve the movie itself. The movie doesn't allow it to. Mixed too low. bored 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I can't hear you over the sound effects. bored 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 hours ago, GerateWohl said: I am not sure if anybody really dares seriously calling a film score one of the great film scores if its movie is just mediocre (even with the score). What, you never saw Conan the Barbarian? 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: Jurassic Park? The Omen? (Just the first two that come to my mind) Jurassic Park is in no way a mediocre film. 58 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: The score did not really improve the movie itself. 46 minutes ago, Holko said: The movie doesn't allow it to. Mixed too low. Exactly. The biggest problems with Powell’s Solo stem directly from the movie itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said: What, you never saw Conan the Barbarian? That's such an overrated score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,526 Posted July 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2021 Conan's a great score. And the movie's a bit better than mediocre. Yavar Moradi, GerateWohl, Not Mr. Big and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,368 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 37 minutes ago, A. A. Ron said: What, you never saw Conan the Barbarian? That is a pretty good argument against my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: That's such an overrated score. That's like calling The Empire Strikes Back an overrated score. I'm sure lots of people do, but it's still a stupid take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Not according to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,714 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: That's such an overrated score. 2 hours ago, Holko said: Conan's a great score. And the movie's a bit better than mediocre. The score's great. The film's great. Basil's great. Arnold's great. They're all great. Very, very, very great. blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Quote Do you consider Solo: A Star Wars Story to be one of the great film scores? No, not really. At least not if we're talking in a historical sense. But I think it's a fine score -- I prefer it over all of Williams' sequels, for example. Both film and score are certainly among the highlights of the year it came out. bored 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bored 309 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I always think of Solo, Hubris Choral Works, and HTTYD 3 as examples that show that Powell could be one of the greats. Unfortunately, his best scores are frequently mixed way too low for most audiences to recognize their quality, and much of Powell's filmography is filled with a lot of generic, forgettable blandness, or music that's well made but not unique. His career has highlights, but his best work is either associated with a specific franchise, or is a collab with another composer (John Williams, Zimmer, Harry Gregson-Williams). Solo is a great score to me, but not on the level of the first 6 Star Wars scores. It's probably 8th best after The Force Awakens. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I don’t think it’s quite as good/great as the sequel scores, but it’s pretty close. I’d put it a hair below “great”. I would place the HTTYD scores in that category though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I place Solo above HTTYD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 638 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Probably in the top 3 of the millennium so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 6 hours ago, GerateWohl said: But in these two examples I can say that the score managed to lift the movie up by about at least two levels. Not my experience with Solo. The score did not really improve the movie itself. That's certainly so. But they're still (or because of it) among the Great Film Scores, even though Solo is a film I ultimately find more enjoyable (if far more generic), with a perfectly fine score that I don't count among them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post blondheim 1,157 Posted July 2, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 2, 2021 9 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: That's such an overrated score. 8 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Not according to me. Ouch. Oof, that hurts to read. Basil is one of my all-time favorite composers. I think he is under-rated in the extreme. I once got into a screaming match with someone over Poledouris. He deserves respect. People sometimes talk about Goldsmith being a cult composer, but Basil really takes the cake for obscure projects. He scored John Waters' films for chrissake And sidebar: like when the fuck is someone going to release the complete Amerika? (I have strong feelings about Basil. He was also adorable as hell and I would give anything, ANYTHING to hear the song he composed for his wife Bobbie. A-ny-thing. Anything.) Edmilson, Yavar Moradi and Tom Guernsey 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 54 minutes ago, blondheim said: Ouch. Oof, that hurts to read. Basil is one of my all-time favorite composers. I think he is under-rated in the extreme. I once got into a screaming match with someone over Poledouris. He deserves respect. People sometimes talk about Goldsmith being a cult composer, but Basil really takes the cake for obscure projects. He scored John Waters' films for chrissake Agreed 100%. After we finish The Goldsmith Odyssey a quarter century from now or whatever, my friend Jens and I want to do The Poledouris Odyssey (which would obviously be a lot shorter). Basil's a favorite of mine. 55 minutes ago, blondheim said: And sidebar: like when the fuck is someone going to release the complete Amerika? And sidebar: when the fuck is someone going to release the complete Free Willy 2? And when the fuck is someone going to release the complete Serial Mom? Yavar Tom Guernsey and ChrisAfonso 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,418 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I haven't seen the movie or listened to the score. But I will say the poll being a 50/50 split as I type this, really surprises me. Maybe I'm missing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 As much as I love Solo and John Powell, I wouldn't call it "one of the great film scores". As usual with Powell it is very accomplished technically, but "great" usually signifies something deeper... But who cares if I find it great or not? If you like the score, listen to it, if you don't, then find something else. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitam 364 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 I answered "no" to the poll. I've listened to Solo a bunch of time, and I enjoy it, but beyond the Enfys Nest material (and Williams' themes of course) I can't ever remember a thing from it... which is another way of saying I just don't find it very memorable. Now if the poll were about How To Train Your Dragon, that would be another story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Yavar Moradi said: Agreed 100%. After we finish The Goldsmith Odyssey a quarter century from now or whatever, my friend Jens and I want to do The Poledouris Odyssey (which would obviously be a lot shorter). Basil's a favorite of mine. And sidebar: when the fuck is someone going to release the complete Free Willy 2? And when the fuck is someone going to release the complete Serial Mom? Yavar I have been working on a Poledouris survey myself! I have been obsessed with Basil Poledouris for years. And I'd rather see the first Free Willy or Les Miserables get a new release. I also want the complete Conan the Destroyer, warts and all. Give me all the warts. Weird aside: I have always thought Basil would have produced an incredible Batman theme had he ever been given an opportunity. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 15 hours ago, A. A. Ron said: Jurassic Park is in no way a mediocre film. This!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Not even close. It is one of the best non-JW SW scores in any media, but it is far from an all-time great. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 5 hours ago, eitam said: Now if the poll were about How To Train Your Dragon, that would be another story. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Is it a classical golden age-esque score? Because I have to confess I stopped listening after hearing the first 20 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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