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Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director’s Cut 4K Restoration (supervised by Mike Matessino)


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8 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

We’ve already been discussing this in the UHD thread. We’ve also agreed that ST: TMP is the greatest of all the Star Trek scores.

 

This is what happens when you miss staff meetings.

 

It deserved its own thread, dammit!

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10 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

We’ve also agreed that ST: TMP is the greatest of all the Star Trek scores.

I agree with that too.

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The greatest of all Trek scores, IMHO, and my personal favorite.

 

One of the greatest Jerry Goldsmith scores, Trek or not.

 

As for the 4K Director's Edition, this is an absolute Holy Grail as far as I'm concerned.

 

They have the right people behind it, and I hope we can FINALLY get the film as Robert Wise intended in an apropriate resolution.

 

The ideal would be to have both Theatrical and Directors Edition versions of the film on the disk, with the special features telling us about the DE restoration, and the DE special features from the DVD included on the Blu-ray disk.

 

The Wrath Of Khan Directors Edition Blu-ray shows how to do things well.

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I don't think you have anything to worry about, so long as Mike is involved in the process.

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25 minutes ago, OneBuckFilms said:

 

The ideal would be to have both Theatrical and Directors Edition versions of the film on the disk, with the special features telling us about the DE restoration, and the DE special features from the DVD included on the Blu-ray disk.

 

The Wrath Of Khan Directors Edition Blu-ray shows how to do things well.


 I’m hoping for all 3 versions to be presented one day. The extended cut that had 12 or so extra minutes, maybe they can finish the SFX / fix the stage showing for the scene of Kirk in his spacesuit going after Spock. 
 

I’m one of the few who still prefers the original theatrical cut. 

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Is the director's cut any better than the theatrical version? At that time I loved everything related to Science Fiction. But the Star Trek movie managed to bore me to keep, almost. But it's been 40 years since I saw the movie. 

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1 hour ago, OneBuckFilms said:

I regard it as the definitive version of the movie, though I love both versions.

 

Same. Many of the film's problems are mitigated in the Director's Cut. The added scenes really help and I don't miss any of the trimmed stuff.

 

Yavar

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The Director's Cut has cheesy looking credits and unthinkably omits "Viewer off.... VIEWER OFF!"

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I never got the film on Blu, hoping they might yet do a HD restoration of the DC. Who knows, if this sells (and/or streams) well, perhaps there's still a tiny chance for HD versions of DS9 and VOY down the road.

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46 minutes ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

 

Damn, that's right. "Viewer off" is one of the best lines in the movie, along with the aforementioned "oh my God" and "will you PLEASE sit down!?" along with "there's a THING out there" and the all-time classic, "Dammit Bones, I NEED you!"

The opening credits of the DE using the album version of 'Main Title' -where two strikes of the timpani begins the cue instead of two strikes on the snare drum from the theatrical cut--was a foreshadow of those worst things mentioned.

Read discussion of the Main Title alternate takes

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Just now, SyncMan said:

The opening credits of the DC using the album version of 'Main Title'

:eh:

Crap, well that's enough to put me off!

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26 minutes ago, Holko said:

:eh:

Crap, well that's enough to put me off!

 

I agree this change wasn't for the better, but there are enough huge improvements (including previously omitted stuff being edited back in, which flesh out character relationships and development sorely missing from the theatrical cut) that you really should check out the Director's still. I'm glad to have both cuts, even if personally I might pick and choose things from both. Overall I far prefer the new cut over the rushed theatrical cut.

 

Yavar

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In summary:

 

If you have never really liked Star Trek: The Motion Picture but have never seen the Director's Edition, give it a shot and I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the improvements.

 

If you have always liked the theatrical cut, well, there may be some things you miss in the new cut as they were really trying to tighten things up but may have left out some fun bits.

 

For someone who has never seen any version of the film, I know that the Director's is the version I would show to them first.


Yavar

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The film and score that jump-started this hobby for me back in August of 1994. Classic stuff, warts and all (then).

 

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Wonder if Paramount may be mulling over finally allowing Shatner to attempt to fix his ST V - even if it's only trims and new F/X shots.

 

May explain why they are electing to release only I-IV initially, with TMP: DE following later. As flawed as TMP: TE is, it's got a lot more going for it than V.

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I'm wondering what will be changed in the newest version of the Director's Edition. Without Wise what will they feel they have latitude to change?

 

But then I thought: If they change ANYTHING will there be fans demanding the original 2001 Robert Wise Edition?

 

Me: I just want all of it (Theatrical / Television / DE / Deleted Scenes) in the best possible format so that I can edit together MY edition!

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9 hours ago, Tallguy said:

I'm wondering what will be changed in the newest version of the Director's Edition

 

Who said anything changed?

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1 hour ago, Jay said:

 

Who said anything changed?

 

At the most basic level they're going to be using new models. So that's change although the intention is that it will not be noticeable.

 

But I know Daren has said that he wants to redo the briefing lounge scene. At the least fixing the star field so that it matches the nacelle or a more ambitious approach of putting them on a virtual set of the officer's lounge. Or will they rerender the nacelle to be 4k and leave everything else as is? 

 

There were other changes to the music (the overture, the main titles) that were not intentional but were done because there was a time crunch and the original elements weren't available. This is my recollection, someone can and will correct me if I'm wrong. Obviously Mike had everything at his disposal when he did the CD set. 

 

EDIT: I want to be clear that I'm just musing about what might be. If they manage to produce a 4K replica of the 2001 film with everything I like and everything I hate from the edition that was supervised by Wise (and Goldsmith!) then I'm still good with it. Just be sure to give me the theatrical cut in comparable quality. I want at least the equivalent of the Wrath of Khan blu ray (both versions). At best I want the Star Trek equivalent of the Blade Runner box (EVERYTHING!).

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To Paraphrase Mr. Sulu any chance I can see the Enterprise....

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On 7/10/2021 at 12:49 PM, JTWfan77 said:

Wonder if Paramount may be mulling over finally allowing Shatner to attempt to fix his ST V - even if it's only trims and new F/X shots.

 

 

  
If amateur effects artists on YouTube can do wonders to V’s piss poor visuals, imagine what a half competent SFX company could do on a budget to fix it up.

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1 hour ago, Nick1Ø66 said:

 

You know engineers, they love to change things.

 Premiere night half of my audience were engineering students. That was the biggest laugh.

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