Jay 30997 Posted April 9, 2022 Author Share Posted April 9, 2022 Wow, front cover mention for @John Takis, very cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toillion 91 Posted April 11, 2022 Share Posted April 11, 2022 My copy was at the post office a town over 5 days ago and has been “in transit to the next destination” ever since. 😓 I’m sure it’ll be here in the next couple days. I’m just impatient knowing it was so close. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 3602 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 19 hours ago, Toillion said: My copy was at the post office a town over 5 days ago and has been “in transit to the next destination” ever since. 😓 I’m sure it’ll be here in the next couple days. I’m just impatient knowing it was so close. Wouldn't happen to be stuck in Nebraska would it? I've been waiting for a LLL package that's been stuck in transit in North Platte NE for several days now, meanwhile a second package I ordered along with it already arrived on Sunday. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30997 Posted April 12, 2022 Author Share Posted April 12, 2022 On 09/04/2022 at 11:06 AM, Demondm810 said: Woohoo! So how's it sound? What's it like to finally hear the Prologue played at the original recording speed outside of the teaser itself? How are Takis's liner notes? Any other comments on the release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toillion 91 Posted April 12, 2022 Share Posted April 12, 2022 15 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Wouldn't happen to be stuck in Nebraska would it? I've been waiting for a LLL package that's been stuck in transit in North Platte NE for several days now, meanwhile a second package I ordered along with it already arrived on Sunday. Haha nope! Mine is stuck in Arkansas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovygoth666 194 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 @Demondm810 & @Toillion have you managed to give this a listen yet? And if you have is it any improvement over the original OST or LLL releases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12615 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 6 hours ago, Groovygoth666 said: @Demondm810 & @Toillion have you managed to give this a listen yet? And if you have is it any improvement over the original OST or LLL releases? I'd love to hear that Prologue at the correct speed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 1430 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 1 hour ago, crumbs said: I'd love to hear that Prologue at the correct speed! Well I guess you can adjust the speed of the turntable until it’s at the correct pitch and speed… bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12615 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: Well I guess you can adjust the speed of the turntable until it’s at the correct pitch and speed… Well yes, but I mean the actual recording straight from the recording sessions! Not a version which was artificially pitch-shifted once, then artificially pitch-shifted back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toillion 91 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 7 hours ago, Groovygoth666 said: @Demondm810 & @Toillion have you managed to give this a listen yet? And if you have is it any improvement over the original OST or LLL releases? Mine is still lost in the mail unfortunately. Groovygoth666 and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 30997 Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share Posted April 22, 2022 MM rebuilt this edition from the ground up from the raw takes. The Prologue is at the correct speed on this album because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6822 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Getting the "correct speed" playing a LP, well it's relative to each turntable... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15468 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 If the variation is dramatic enough to actually hear, you've just got a broken turntable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 6822 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 "dramatic" is relative, but generally the speed of a good turntable can be very precisely adjusted... but a certain setting can be good for one LP, but not for another... I never saw an LP sold with the mention "we garanty this LP was pressed with perfectly calibrated material." And if you handle an older LP made with analogue material, you take the chance the tapes were not even transfered at the right speed on the LP press... Then, the strap of a turntable tend to get loose with time, again it depends of the quality of the material... Ahhh... old technology... Exposing myself to music "not a the good speed" would represent a big regression for me. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 3602 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 15 hours ago, crumbs said: Well yes, but I mean the actual recording straight from the recording sessions! Not a version which was artificially pitch-shifted once, then artificially pitch-shifted back. The thing is that it wasn't artificially pitch-shifted. The original file they used was in 48kHz, and some dumbass, instead of clipping the frequency to 44.1kHz, accidentally changed the speed to 44.1kHz (which is a thing btw). If you change the speed back to 48kHz, what you end up with is the original, unaltered recording session file, without any artificial speed/pitch changing whatsoever, and it's true 48kHz as a plus. From then if you can convert it properly to 44.1kHz if desirable. I'm surprised more people didn't realize that. Bespin and Holko 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovygoth666 194 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 30 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: The thing is that it wasn't artificially pitch-shifted. The original file they used was in 48kHz, and some dumbass, instead of clipping the frequency to 44.1kHz, accidentally changed the speed to 44.1kHz (which is a thing btw). If you change the speed back to 48kHz, what you end up with is the original, unaltered recording session file, without any artificial speed/pitch changing whatsoever, and it's true 48kHz as a plus. From then if you can convert it properly to 44.1kHz if desirable. I'm surprised more people didn't realize that. Any ideas if this would be possible in Audacity/Adobe Audition and if so how to do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 3602 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 24 minutes ago, Groovygoth666 said: Any ideas if this would be possible in Audacity/Adobe Audition and if so how to do it? In Audacity, import the file and open the dropdown menu (click on the filename on the left next to the waveform), hover over "Rate", and select "48000 Hz". That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovygoth666 194 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: In Audacity, import the file and open the dropdown menu (click on the filename on the left next to the waveform), hover over "Rate", and select "48000 Hz". That's it. Awesome, so if I've done this right the Mondo version should sound like this 598174237_01.Prologue(CorrectSpeed).flac Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TJH132 44 Posted April 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2022 Overall, I'm very happy with this purchase. The album art is fantastic; it's so nice to see something other than just a re-hash of the original art. The notes are good, but not really detailed -- more like a love letter to the score. While I like having the extra music from the expanded release, the generous original soundtrack presentation has always been a favorite of mine, so this is perfect. The sound "seems" to be good, too. There are a lot of variables that go into how "good" the vinyl sound really is (turntable, pre-amp, stylus, speakers...). On my system, it generally sounds fantastic, save one rather large issue: The overall level seems lower than many other albums I own (classical, soundtrack or otherwise), meaning I have to turn it up a bit louder than usual. This makes the noise floor of the vinyl more apparent than some other LPs. Still, I like the sound of it, especially the low end, that really rumbles in all the right spots! Chewy, Jay, Toillion and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toillion 91 Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Mine finally came in today! I was pleasantly surprised since it had been two weeks with no tracking updates. I’m giving it a full listen now. The first thing I noticed was how low the volume was and I had to crank it up for this album. I listened to side 1 earlier and noticed a lot of surface noise so I stopped and gave them a good clean and now it is sounding much better. DrTenma and Chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahler3 393 Posted May 10, 2022 Share Posted May 10, 2022 Zavvi must’ve received their allocation as they now have it listed on their various geographic websites. Here’s the U.K. link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldfingers 50 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Not only Zavvi, some french websites listed it with a release date for June 2022. (June 3 for the MoV and june 30 for the Mondo). Seems June will be a big Hook month. The two vinyls (MoV and Mondo) and maybe something more? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 866 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Fingers crossed its one of the four that's left... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12615 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 I'd LOVE to see a new Hook expansion... does seem rather odd/unlikely that Mike was commissioned to work on an OST rebuild but the conversation never came up with either LLL or JW's team about doing a proper expansion at the same time. But their comments last year were a bit perplexing. And Mike said the Mondo was assembled using the same transfers done in 2012 for the last LLL expansion. But clearly no new Hook expansion can happen without new transfers of the music that was sourced from film stems on the 2012 release (assuming first-generation elements have been located... if they were even "missing" in the first place). So... who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 866 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 I was informed that the original elements have been located and are in good condition, so MM comments on that one particular Facebook post don't worry me anymore. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8024 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, crumbs said: And Mike said the Mondo was assembled using the same transfers done in 2012 for the last LLL expansion. But clearly no new Hook expansion can happen without new transfers of all the material that previously used film stems on the 2012 release. Would the reels already transferred in 2012 need retransfering though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 12615 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 12 minutes ago, Holko said: Would the reels already transferred in 2012 need retransfering though? Not sure. Let's say, hypothetically, a new expansion was assembled using a mix of transfers from 2011 and 2021/2022. Has audio transfer technology improved enough in the last 10 years that there'd be a difference in audio quality? Or would it be literally the same tech from 10 years ago, rendering fresh transfers a pointless exercise? And what was the resolution of those 2012 transfers? Can more detail be captured off those tapes now, in higher resolutions? These are the sorts of nerdy tech questions I wish got more detail about. Especially when it comes to the state of the tapes themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Farewell to Kings 3557 Posted May 11, 2022 Share Posted May 11, 2022 Pretty sure that post production plugins have advanced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kendal_Ozzel 33 Posted November 25, 2022 Share Posted November 25, 2022 For those who missed out (like myself), Hook is back in stock at Mondo: https://mondoshop.com/collections/all/products/hook-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-2xlp EDIT: Aaaaaaaaand they're gone. Toillion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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