Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Holko said: Pressing plants: If the indexes are off, that's probably an issue with the source files, not something that happened at the pressing plant. Smeltington and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 2 hours ago, Brundlefly said: Why is it only now that people are going mad about it? No one is angry about it. 12 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: If the indexes are off, that's probably an issue with the source files, not something that happened at the pressing plant. Exactly. It’s a mistake from the label, but it’s worth pointing out it’s also a mistake multiple labels have made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 13 hours ago, Bespin said: Stop finding false defaults. 2 hours ago, Bespin said: We don't care. What is wrong with you? I was simply addressing a potential error that can be easily rectified. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Don't use the term "glitch", unless it's a real glitch, if you know what a glitch is, mercy. A glitch in the recorded musical domain, an audio glitch or a "digital" glitch, is a micro drop-out, a micro loss of sound, of data, a default created by a digital error or, for an analogue recording, a power surge, a static problem that damage a micro part of the sound. There is no glitch on The Eiger Sanction. Chose you words right please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I was simply pointing out a possible issue, unsure if it was just my set or if it was on other copies. Sorry. 12 hours ago, lairdo said: I can definitely confirm the error both on my CD 2 and on the subsequent rip of these tracks. Here's a shot from Audacity of the end of Track 14. As mentioned above, an easy fix which I have just finished. Edit - I did not notice this until it was mentioned above either. I just played straight through a few times and did not hear the track change. But nice to have it fixed. So, @Bespin, this does not constitute an error? This is normal? Okay, then. Like I said, it can be easily fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 It's an index error. We live with them since the very first CD! To understand this, you need to understand how the audio is stored on a CD, in fact, as one big continous "stream". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyD 1,223 Posted August 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2021 As a collector of the Maestro’s work on CD, this is the first index error I’ve ever come across. 1977, Chewy and DrTenma 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 And so in EAC, that's why they added the 'COPY RANGE' feature! Very usefull for CDs with misplaced indexes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciarlese 250 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, Bespin said: It's an index error. We live with them since the very first CD! To understand this, you need to understand how the audio is stored on a CD, in fact, as one big continous file. Insert an audio cd in your computer and see how many files you see in the CD drive folder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Audio CDs are mastered as one long stream of sampled audio—one big recording encompassing all the songs and the silent passages in between them, much like one side of a vinyl record. Yes, your PC shows you the different tracks according to the index (or CUE sheet). Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittBash 282 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Anyone one know of a Mac App that has a copy range feature? Worst case scenario I rip the discs as wav and put the missing bits back in to the right tracks in Audition but this would be easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciarlese 250 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, Bespin said: Audio CDs are mastered as one long stream of sampled audio—one big recording encompassing all the songs and the silent passages in between them, much like one side of a vinyl record. Yes, your PC shows you the different tracks according to the index (or CUE sheet). But it's not a single file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, ciarlese said: But it's not a single file. It's a stream, fixed on my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 4,127 Posted August 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2021 Got tired of waiting for a re-stock, so I went and bought the Target exclusive with the variant cover and the bonus track "On The Chair Lift" Chewy, Alan, MikeH and 6 others 2 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Bespin said: It's a stream, fixed on my post. It's a stream that contains a TOC (at the beginning, I assume, but I forget). That TOC has a glitch in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,127 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 This is a pretty big get for me, personally. More than just filling a gap. With Eiger in my hands, I now have EVERY commercially released JW Film Score on CD! (In at least one form) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hedji said: This is a pretty big get for me, personally. More than just filling a gap. With Eiger in my hands, I now have EVERY commercially released JW Film Score on CD! (In at least one form) You own the 3-CD Mr. Chips boxset? Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hedji said: This is a pretty big get for me, personally. More than just filling a gap. With Eiger in my hands, I now have EVERY commercially released JW Film Score on CD! (In at least one form) Oooh, same here! Finally! Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,127 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, Bespin said: You own the 3-CD Mr. Chips boxset? I do. I managed to get it on eBay this year for a fairly tolerable $60. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Just now, Hedji said: I do. I managed to get it on eBay this year for a fairly tolerable $60. FY!!!! Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,127 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 I had it as a Saved Search for ages and then one day got lucky. I have now removed Eiger Sanction from my eBay saved searches. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted August 17, 2021 Author Share Posted August 17, 2021 I picked up Mr. Chips when it was available during its original release. I suspect one day it might get remastered and reissued. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Jay said: 4 hours ago, Hedji said: This is a pretty big get for me, personally. More than just filling a gap. With Eiger in my hands, I now have EVERY commercially released JW Film Score on CD! (In at least one form) Oooh, same here! Finally! I *think* I'm there since Always. Andy and Chris ChrusherComix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Does anybody know which track is the main theme? (if there is one) Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Jeff says they've been made aware of the issue (also that nobody caught it because nobody there skips any track by the great Johnny Williams )- I'd wager they pulled a Sleepy Hollow and froze their stock until corrections arrive, just without explicitly saying so, that's why it went temp oos so quickly. Chewy and MrJosh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 9 hours ago, Hedji said: I do. I managed to get it on eBay this year for a fairly tolerable $60. I have two spare copies... Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 654 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,074 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Because he can. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,359 Posted August 18, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: Does anybody know which track is the main theme? (if there is one) Thanks! I count 5 themes in this score, personally. Here’s where you can find them on the original soundtrack album: Mystery Theme 1 Main Title @ 0:08, 0:26 Main Theme 1 Main Title @ 0:50, 1:15, 1:44 2 Theme From The Eiger Sanction (Flugelhorn Version) @ 0:16, 1:01, 1:54 4 The Icy Ascent @ 0:15, 0:59, 2:03, 2:53 5 Friends And Enemies @ 0:21, 0:53, 1:37 7 Theme From The Eiger Sanction @ 0:16, 0:57, 1:43 9 Theme From The Eiger Sanction (Hemlock and Jemima) @ 0:00, 0:55 12 Up The Drainpipe @ 2:53 13 The Eiger @ 0:43, 1:02, 1:42 Suspense Theme 3 Fifty Miles of Desert @ 0:13, 1:00, 1:35, 2:14, 2:34 5 Friends And Enemies @ 0:00, 0:11 11 The Microfilm Killing @ 0:09, 0:27 13 The Eiger @ 0:26 Action Theme 3 Fifty Miles of Desert @ 1:47 Training Theme 8 Training With George @ 0:00, 0:37, 1:40 10 George Sets The Pace @ 0:07, 0:27, 1:02, 1:38, 2:14, 2:23 (Training Theme B Section) 8 Training With George @ 0:22 10 George Sets The Pace @ 1:10, 1:58 Chris ChrusherComix, Andy, MrJosh and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jay said: 1 Main Title @ 0:08, 0:26 That's the one, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted August 18, 2021 Author Share Posted August 18, 2021 What do you mean, @Not Mr. Big? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,481 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 crlbrg and MikeH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 16 hours ago, Holko said: Jeff says they've been made aware of the issue (also that nobody caught it because nobody there skips any track by the great Johnny Williams )- I'd wager they pulled a Sleepy Hollow and froze their stock until corrections arrive, just without explicitly saying so, that's why it went temp oos so quickly. Does that mean I have to send my copy back for a replacement? If so, it would just be Disc 2 that I would have to send back, right? I was able to fix the issue for my Apple library. Were I to play the physical CD via my 4K Blu-Ray, I’d let it play through. Though, I guess if I were in the mood to go to Never Quaver, then the issue would be slightly of inconvenience. Any advice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,347 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, JohnnyD said: Does that mean I have to send my copy back for a replacement? If so, it would just be Disc 2 that I would have to send back, right? I was able to fix the issue for my Apple library. Were I to play the physical CD via my 4K Blu-Ray, I’d let it play through. Though, I guess if I were in the mood to go to Never Quaver, then the issue would be slightly of inconvenience. Any advice? You don't have to send anything back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MrJosh 892 Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 5 hours ago, JohnnyD said: Does that mean I have to send my copy back for a replacement? If so, it would just be Disc 2 that I would have to send back, right? I was able to fix the issue for my Apple library. Were I to play the physical CD via my 4K Blu-Ray, I’d let it play through. Though, I guess if I were in the mood to go to Never Quaver, then the issue would be slightly of inconvenience. Any advice? You just need to tell them you're very Eiger for a replacement disc. Tallguy, QuartalHarmony, Jay and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 According to Roger over on the Intrada boards, the first printing of Eiger Sanction did actually sell that fast - they didn't turn off ordering because of the indexing glitch Quote Quote Intrada seems to be having some bad luck lately... first Sleepy Hollow, now this... wondering what happened with Extreme Prejudice considering it is also out of stock already... unless those few extra minutes were enough to convince hundreds of people to order immediately and there simply wasn't enough copies in the first batch pressed. Yeah stuff happens. Both Eiger and Extreme Prejudice blew threw their initial pressings. We'll fix the repressings of Eiger http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=84251#p84251 Dr. Rick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,314 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 23 minutes ago, Jay said: According to Roger over on the Intrada boards, the first printing of Eiger Sanction did actually sell that fast - they didn't turn off ordering because of the indexing glitch http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=84251#p84251 Wow! Great news... Wonder how many copies were in that first batch? Will have to pre-order for the next batch now that Khan is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 I think most titles they order 500 copies at a time? But maybe a title they knew would be a big seller like this they started with 1,000? I dunno! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,481 Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 My order shipped, I can now release my autobiography. Andy, Raiders of the SoundtrArk, GerateWohl and 8 others 2 1 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciarlese 250 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Jay said: According to Roger over on the Intrada boards, the first printing of Eiger Sanction did actually sell that fast - they didn't turn off ordering because of the indexing glitch http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=84251#p84251 Are they going to offer a disc replacement to those who have received the set from the first batch? From a seller's position they should, otherwise in the future customers may chose to avoid ordering on day one and feel they are testing a product for those who come later... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted August 19, 2021 Author Share Posted August 19, 2021 I have not seen a public announcement from Intrada about replacing discs for people who ordered the first pressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, ciarlese said: customers may chose to avoid ordering on day one and feel they are testing a product for those who come later It does feel more and more risky ordering version 1.0 of a new Intrada release :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 2 hours ago, crumbs said: Wonder how many copies were in that first batch? Will have to pre-order for the next batch now that Khan is available. I pre-ordered it with Khan from Music Box the other day. Wonder if I'll get a first or second pressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Omen II 1,235 Posted August 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2021 My cat was so excited when I received my copy that she proffered her undercarriage. Falling And Swinging thx99, Andy, crlbrg and 6 others 3 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 19, 2021 Share Posted August 19, 2021 40 minutes ago, Omen II said: My cat was so excited when I received my copy that she proffered her undercarriage. Falling And Swinging It clearly didn't come in a box. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,391 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 11 hours ago, ciarlese said: Are they going to offer a disc replacement to those who have received the set from the first batch? From a seller's position they should, otherwise in the future customers may chose to avoid ordering on day one and feel they are testing a product for those who come later... 11 hours ago, Jay said: I have not seen a public announcement from Intrada about replacing discs for people who ordered the first pressing. Roger confirmed it on the Intrada forums! Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,359 Posted August 20, 2021 Author Share Posted August 20, 2021 Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,481 Posted August 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 20, 2021 I asked both ScreenArchives and Intrada, because I'm not sure who will send me the replacement disk. Already intrada, confirmed me they will send me a replacement CD for Cocoon. I'm so busy right now managing all those defective CD! I think it could be worthwile to create a thread just to list the recent defective CDs from each labels. I'm sure it would be helpfull for some users who don't have the time to read all the different threads for each release. Amer, Smeltington and Chewy 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 563 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 29 minutes ago, Bespin said: I think it could be worthwile to create a thread just to list the recent defective CDs from each labels. And defective teeth / non teeth booklets! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted August 20, 2021 Share Posted August 20, 2021 39 minutes ago, Bespin said: Already intrada, confirmed me they will send me a replacement CD for Cocoon. What's wrong with Cocoon? 39 minutes ago, Bespin said: I think it could be worthwile to create a thread just to list the recent defective CDs from each labels. I'm sure it would be helpfull for some users who don't have the time to read all the different threads for each release. I agree, sort of like a faulty discography. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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