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Thor 5,971 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 "Best" is obviously a tricky term, perhaps "favourite" is better. In either case, it's very difficult. Both are among my absolute top favourites. If push came to shove, though, I'd pick Zimmer. At the moment, he is my second favourite composer after Williams. Good to see BEYOND RANGOON on your list. It is my favourite Zimmer score, and also on my top 10 favourite scores of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SteveMc 2,672 Posted August 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2021 Zimmer has his very solid moments, but he is essentially a pop film composer and this colors his sensibilities in composition and production in a way that rubs wrong with my sensibilities. Horner was a postmodernist classical composer who rebelled against the establishment by embracing the form of pop film composing. Stuff like Krull, The Land Before Time, Braveheart, and The Spitfire Grill are works of artistic vision and integrity at a level that Zimmer will probably never match. Honestly, Zimmer is probably a more effective film scorer than Horner was, but Horner was the better composer. Holko, Bayesian, blondheim and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bounty95 462 Posted August 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 7, 2021 STII:TWoK Krull An American Tail The Land Before Time Willow Glory The Rocketeer Legends of the Fall Braveheart Apollo 13 Titanic The Mask of Zorro The Perfect Storm A Beautiful Mind The Legend of Zorro Avatar Case closed. I like The Lion King, Gladiator and PotC 3 though. Smeltington, NL197, Chen G. and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 4,981 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Difficult question. Both Zimmer and Horner were responsable for my love to film scores. I'd say Horner is the better composer/musician, but Zimmer knows how to make an effective score in a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 6,522 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 "Favourite" may be debatable, but as @SteveMc has explained above, Horner is pretty obviously the "better" composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ollie 861 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Horner. For all his repetition, the man knew how to milk every emotion from an orchestra and pull at your emotions. Zimmer's not even a blip on my radar. NL197 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 277 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 I dont know how much my vote can count. I voted Zimmer because I feel his work is just more diverse and purely based on music I enjoy his more. But on the other hand Horner doesnt use his students to make tracks for him (as far as I know), so I admired Horner more. Like Thor said, I am more voting for my favorite than whatever objective quality they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5,971 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 To quote the ol' emperor (can't believe I'm pulling a STAR WARS reference): "Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen". That is, Horner winning by a landslide. That's OK, but I want to shelter and nurture the few hardcore Zimmer fans in this forum. We should form a clique. I'm watching the Zimmer-voting people with much interest. All of you receive a star in my personal catalogue of messageboard people with great taste. MedigoScan and Aeane so far -- cool peeps! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 277 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 I totally understand the Horner love as well. Both were also a big part of my childhood. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,636 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Horner. Acknowledging his often problematic musical ethics i will say that Zimmer isn't as far behind him as he should be, speaking from a craftmanship perspective. KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May the Force be with You 2,032 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 I choose Horner just because he wrotes Avatar which is one of my favourite score. Horner's best scores: Avatar Titanic Aliens Cocoon *batteries not included Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan Zimmer is really closed with Dead Man's Chest At the World's End Inception Gladiator The Rock Interstellar WW84 Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 209 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 This vote is rigged I tell you. All @Jurassic Shark fault. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,810 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Prefer in which way? Musically? Visually? Sexually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 6,522 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Prefer in which way? Musically? Visually? Sexually? If I had to pick each… still James Horner. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 5,889 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 There are very few scores I really dig from Horner, so I voted Zimmer (who has Some). He also tops Goldsmith for me, tbh. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 1,691 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I don't have a strong leaning one way or the other. Both have/had some musical tendencies that can get on my nerves, and yet there are scores by both that take my breath away if I'm in the right mood. (Lion King and TWOK, I'm looking at you.) I'll vote for Horner based on my current mild preference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 737 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I think if offered the choice to see one of them live, I'd go with Zimmer, but as composers and considering their bodies of work, Horner is the winner. I saw Zimmer live in 2019. I've been to a lot of concerts, but that was really something special. The whole night just oozed joyousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianagirl 284 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 For me this is an easy choice. I much prefer Horner. I sometimes really like Zimmer but usually I’m rather uninspired by him. He’s very hit and miss for me. And when he misses it often feels like mood music more than score. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,810 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 7 hours ago, mstrox said: There are very few scores I really dig from Horner, so I voted Zimmer (who has Some). He also tops Goldsmith for me, tbh. Paging @Yavar Moradi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,327 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I struggle to embrace Horner's style, so it's clearly Zimmer for me. The latter is also the more innovative composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,636 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Brundlefly said: I struggle to embrace Horner's style, so it's clearly Zimmer for me. The latter is also the more innovative composer. That's true for the later Horner. In his early phase he could be cutting-edge. The Four Feathers was his last truly groundbreaking score (not all of it). He collided african/eastern and western styles in quite a fashion. And he had the chops to do that in a sophisticated way Zimmer could never dream of. Though i remain optimistic about Dune (and Wonder Woman wasn't shabby, either). SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,327 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, publicist said: Though i remain optimistic about Dune (and Wonder Woman wasn't shabby, either). Dune seems like his potential Magnum Opus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,810 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 @Lord Zimmer sucks. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 209 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: @Lord Zimmer sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 1,821 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 7 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Paging @Yavar Moradi! Yes? It’s his opinion and he’s entitled to it. I suspect he just hasn’t explored the breadth of Goldsmith’s work. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 2,639 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Horner is the more technically accomplished composer, but I generally like more of Zimmer's scores. Horner's stuff gets a bit 'wandering' and lacking in a focus sometimes. StarFox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,034 Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 When Horner hit it out of the park though, wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,723 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 I don't know exactly when it happened, but some time in the last few years I crossed some line and now I can barely enjoy anything from Hans Zimmer anymore. There was a time in my life when I really loved what Hans was doing. Gladiator was my big intro to his music, I loved the Dark Knight trilogy, his Dad Vinci Code score. But then something changed and his music seems so cookie cutter to me now. Even the rare score that is distinct still comes across like very predictable Hans Zimmer sounds layered on top of each other. For this reason, I prefer James Horner. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,706 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 I really like a lot of Zimmer’s work. I really love a lot of Horner’s. Chen G. and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,254 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 On 8/8/2021 at 7:10 AM, publicist said: Though i remain optimistic about Dune (and Wonder Woman wasn't shabby, either). The preview cues sadly weren't very promising... Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 323 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Zimmer is my favorite. Horner is my second favorite, maybe third behind Williams. Either way, both of them are up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAvengerButton 149 Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 On 8/7/2021 at 11:46 AM, Thor said: To quote the ol' emperor (can't believe I'm pulling a STAR WARS reference): "Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen". That is, Horner winning by a landslide. That's OK, but I want to shelter and nurture the few hardcore Zimmer fans in this forum. We should form a clique. I'm watching the Zimmer-voting people with much interest. All of you receive a star in my personal catalogue of messageboard people with great taste. MedigoScan and Aeane so far -- cool peeps! I'm here too even though I voted for Horner. I love Zimmer's repertoire through and through, though. He knows how to squeeze the emotion out of soundtracks using very interesting orchestral textures, but I also love when he lets himself do a Zimmer-esque spin on a more traditional sounding score, ala the stuff he's done for Pirates and Sherlock Holmes or his recent animated film scores. Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JoeinAR 1,894 Posted August 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2021 NL197, Chen G., May the Force be with You and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 188 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 These are extraordinarily different composers, difficult or impossible to truly compare. Edmilson and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 32,096 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 9,810 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 One's a composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 277 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 On 8/10/2021 at 3:58 PM, JoeinAR said: No such thing as a poor choice in cases like this, templar dude. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,894 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Anyone who chose the hack zimmer chose poorly. He is awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 7,986 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Horner vs. Zimmer? Ha ha Just discovered this. Is this a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,327 Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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