Princeling1987 22 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Richard Penna said: I was mainly talking about in context of putting the film and album versions next to each other. If you relegated the album version to the end, then yes, perhaps. Could we perhaps avoid using 'competent' and related terms when it comes to discussing arrangement decisions? It saddens me that we're routinely accusing producers of being incompetent when often they just make decisions we don't always agree with. I listened to the FYC in the car today - I was reminded of how well the Alpha, Valka and Drago themes are introduced amongst the existing themes. There's also another motif that I think I heard bits of in Valka's Dragon Sanctuary which reappeared later on, but wasn't sure what it represented. The "Valka theme" that you mention is actually the Lost and Found theme. The one that begins "Valka's Dragon Sactuary" with chorus is actually Valka's theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: It's been ages since I saw the 2nd film, but is it conceivable that the 'original' opening for #2 is something Powell did for the album? It has that feel to it for me, especially given that the whole track is largely a concert piece for all of the first film's themes. No, because the demo of that version was in the preview of the opening that was released prior to the theatrical release. 24 minutes ago, Jay said: Huh, you prefer the original opening for HTTYD1 over the re-write? Wow, for me, the revised opening is one of my favorite moments in the entire score! The alternate version is also a rewrite, the original is only available via demos and uses the Winds of Change theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 987 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Also, it's in the end credits like the alternate from the first movie, so it definitely looks to have been written for the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 Both versions of Dragon Racing are so good, there's no reason not to have the film version as the album opening and the album version as an end credits piece. Holko and Drawgoon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,398 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Anthony said: Both versions of Dragon Racing are so good, there's no reason not to have the film version as the album opening and the album version as an end credits piece. That'd be great. We need Mike Matessino to work with Powell on these albums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 8 minutes ago, Anthony said: Both versions of Dragon Racing are so good, there's no reason not to have the film version as the album opening and the album version as an end credits piece. That's a nice idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Jay said: That's a nice idea! That's how the film has it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 I need to see this film... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 While I'm not as familiar with the Dragon scores as I am with Solo, it was a little frustrating to end up with an "expanded" album rather than a "definitive" version. Only including film versions of cues while omitting the previously available album versions was strange, and joining cues (the train/mine/kessel run) where they clearly didn't need to be joined (nor were they on the OST) was rather odd. I had to self-engineer a hybrid album using material from both the OST and DE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 Yea I was hoping that Intrada would get to be able to put the Solo Deluxe on physical CD, and include bonus tracks after the main program with all the other stuff he recorded that isn't on the DE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I sure would like to hear everything Williams did for it. Anyway, wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 Oh yea those LA recordings for Solo are a huge holy grail Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Anthony said: Both versions of Dragon Racing are so good, there's no reason not to have the film version as the album opening and the album version as an end credits piece. 1 hour ago, Jay said: That's a nice idea! Wouldn't that result in having the film version and the alternate demo version right after eachother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,342 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 26 minutes ago, Jay said: Huh? Post edited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 12, 2022 Author Share Posted March 12, 2022 Oh I have no issues with bonus tracks being redundant or whatever. Only main programs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Edmilson said: That'd be great. We need Mike Matessino to work with Powell on these albums! HTTYD1 could use a fresh remaster. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted March 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 13, 2022 You need a fresh remaster! Smeltington, Edmilson, crumbs and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 More like a top to bottom restoration, rebuilt from the ground up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 A complete rerecording. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,305 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 ...or a replacement score from another composer. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 Has anybody gotten a shipping notice yet? I ordered Friday and mine still says "unfulfilled". I checked the product pages for everything I bought on that order, and they all say "In stock, ready to ship"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,676 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Nope - silence from the UK distributor too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,281 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Nor here, although my Omni score arrived much to the my partner's surprise (he'd ordered it as a random present for me!). Now just have to wait for the CDs to read along... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 I guess Varese's shipping team doesn't work weekends You'd think they'd announce new titles on Mondays or Tuesdays instead of Fridays if that's the case... Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,338 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Nothing here either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 36 minutes ago, Jay said: I guess Varese's shipping team doesn't work weekends Do weekends last Friday to Monday in the special world? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 I don't get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Weekends are Saturday to Sunday. They didn't ship on Friday and it's Monday and they didn't ship it today either. Feels great having paid more for fast courier shipping. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 We don't know if they shipped some out on Friday and/or today or not. There's like 4 people here who said theirs hasn't shipped yet, out of up to potentially 2,000 orders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 987 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Mine actually has, though it's still in the "label created" phase currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 14, 2022 Author Share Posted March 14, 2022 Excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,281 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Omni must have started shipping the scores ages ago as it usually takes a week or two to get to me. My order of the two Elfman Batman scores took absolutely ages. Unusual for a company to dispatch quite so ahead of the official release date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,429 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 While waiting to hear the music I come with an alternate cover to replace the one from Varèse which like the Iron Giant wasn't really my (little Giacchino moment) Hic-cup of Tea Tom Guernsey and Taikomochi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,741 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 5 hours ago, HunterTech said: Mine actually has, though it's still in the "label created" phase currently. I too have a label created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, A. A. Ron said: I too have a label created. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,741 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Shipped! Full disclosure I did pay the extra dollar for First Class. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 987 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Same here. I expect it to get here Thursday (though I could be surprised given other recent shipments that arrived early). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,676 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 16 hours ago, Jay said: You'd think they'd announce new titles on Mondays or Tuesdays instead of Fridays if that's the case... This! 100%! As I've stated before, Friday evening release is useless for the international store (waiting a minimum of 3 days before dispatch) and if it's midday in the west coast, it's only giving Varese themselves a few hours. I don't even get a first class postage option (makes no sense why) so if they're busy, which it appears they are this week, it's nearly a week to receive something that's about 5 hours drive from here. I hate to complain about it really - amongst all the bug-bears of people here, waiting for things is my achilles heel Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 I just got my sipping email 15 minutes ago, with a tracking number. Only entry is the tracking is the "label created" thing though. Wait - they ship out of Texas now!? Since when? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,676 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 It's entirely possible I'll get it tomorrow and Awesome Distro's shipping dept is uncommunicative, but I'm not holding my breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,741 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 35 minutes ago, Jay said: Wait - they ship out of Texas now!? Since when? This is certainly my first Varese shipment from Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 The lure of low taxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 987 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Yeah, I was thrown off by the Texas thing, since I figured their offices were still in LA like the other labels. Not sure why that would be, though I doubt Back Lot might've had anything to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 No no, I ordered HTTYD along with 5 other titles and they all shipped from Texas. Clearly their warehouse is there now. I'm sure their offices are still in LA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I ordered mine from the international store - wonder where that will come from. No shipping notification yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,322 Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Anthony said: I ordered mine from the international store - wonder where that will come from England... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,499 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I had to email them to get a tracking number and any update - turns out they created a label today and it was picked up by UPS an hour ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,676 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I just got a shipping e-mail, and the tracking number says it was actually received by RM this afternoon so I'll get it Thurs. Pleaaaaasseeee Varese.... change your release day.. this sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Pleaaaaasseeee Varese.... change your release day.. this sucks Bit of a strong reaction... Mine has shipped too. Woop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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