Popular Post Fabulin 3,505 Posted August 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2021 So that they can play it when he wins for Indiana Jones 5. https://www.classicalwcrb.org/show/the-boston-symphony-orchestra/2021-08-13/film-night-with-the-pops-and-john-williams-2021 Martinland, Chewy, WilliamsStarShip2282 and 5 others 5 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,839 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Are there any impressions of this new piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,278 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 48 minutes ago, artguy360 said: Are there any impressions of this new piece? It sounds like Jupiter to me in the beginning. And some of it sort of sounds like Galaxy's Edge. Some have said it sounds like 90's JW WilliamsStarShip2282 and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 It's pretty cool. Fits in well with some of his many other little orchestral concert overtures. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Permanent Waves said: Some have said it sounds like 90's JW I agree with that. It's refreshingly retrospective. WilliamsStarShip2282 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,799 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 Where did you all listen to the piece? Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamsStarShip2282 308 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 7 hours ago, Permanent Waves said: It sounds like Jupiter to me in the beginning. And some of it sort of sounds like Galaxy's Edge. Some have said it sounds like 90's JW That's why I actually thought it was a piece that he pulled off the shelf and dusted off! It was a nice work, and I really loved the new concerto as well. Makes me quite excited for the other new works expected, and I hope we get to hear it unlike a few other pieces that never surface like "A Toast". Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,235 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 14 hours ago, Fabulin said: So that they can play it when he wins for Indiana Jones 5. https://www.classicalwcrb.org/show/the-boston-symphony-orchestra/2021-08-13/film-night-with-the-pops-and-john-williams-2021 5 hours ago, WilliamsStarShip2282 said: I hope we get to hear it unlike a few other pieces that never surface like "A Toast". Are you referring to Overture to the Oscars? We'll all get to hear it on Sunday. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Falstaft 2,097 Posted August 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2021 Couldn't help myself. Here's a transcription of the soaring main theme, as it appears after the Jovian/Galaxy's-Edgesque opening. I left out some of the trumpet countermelody stuff around m. 14-16 for clarity's sake, and a few of the chordal inversions are speculative on my part, given the low audio quality at present. Really classic 1980s-sounding Williams, not-so-distant cousin of "The Mission" and a few other occasional pieces. Some of the harmonies and progressions are particularly characteristic -- oddly enough, most similar to the music when Willie is lifted from the lava pit in TOD! Miguel Andrade, Tom, Once and 6 others 6 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 243 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 The theme has a Phoenix feeling . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 638 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 It's really a great piece. When I first heard it at the concert I was convinced it was a super obscure old piece that I had never heard before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,278 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Nemesis said: The theme has a Phoenix feeling . John Williams, rising from the ashes? igger6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,612 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 I am looking forward to hearing this. I like the return of the 80s sound in various recent pieces--but I really like that it is not copy and paste but infused with elements of his contemporary writing. Running list of pieces that sound a bit throwback (to me anyways): Great Performances Theme Rose's Theme Galaxy's Edge Speeder Chase (well, sort of anyway) Once and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,612 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 3 hours ago, Falstaft said: Couldn't help myself. To paraphrase Jerry talking to George: "Schubert." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,800 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 The string writing is absolutely *lovely*. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamsStarShip2282 308 Posted August 23, 2021 Share Posted August 23, 2021 6 hours ago, Ricard said: Are you referring to Overture to the Oscars? We'll all get to hear it on Sunday. No, the other ones for the Hollywood Bowl and Vienna. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 889 Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 I love it! The main theme strikes me as one of the longest-lined melodies in any Williams overture. It just goes and goes and goes. The theme would certainly be catchier if it were shorter, but if you ask me, that's one of the characteristics that marks it as a more "mature" entry in his oeuvre: it's more concerned with doing musically interesting things than with giving us an earworm to latch onto—although thankfully, it's not fixated on virtuosity like many of his brass pieces. The full orchestra is on display here. The textures are fantastic, really evoking an idealized vision of Hollywood. (This would have been a perfect piece for the entrance plaza loop at the Disney-MGM Studios back in the late '80s/early '90s.) Overall, I wouldn't class this with the very best of his Olympic music and other fanfares, but it's up there, especially among his recent concert works. What a joy to have this land in our laps! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joni Wiljami 1,205 Posted August 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 24, 2021 Where did you all listen to this piece? JoeinAR, toothless and jocores 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,044 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Anyone who heard it already either attended the concert, or listened to a recording somebody who did attend the concert shared with others. However! This concert (with the Men of Yorktown March from Midway added into the middle for some reason) is broadcast tonight on FM as well as the internet thanks to WCRB. https://www.classicalwcrb.org/show/the-boston-symphony-orchestra/2021-08-13/film-night-with-the-pops-and-john-williams-2021 The stream button is at the top of that page. So soon many additional fans will be able to hear this work - and in proper sound quaility. The broadcast begins just under 5 hours from now. And I am just realizing, should I get set up to record the FM broadcast? In case the internet stream is too compressed? EDIT: Nevermind, while I have an FM radio on the desk in my office here, I can't position the antennae anywhere where 99.5 isn't full of static. Oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,251 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 @Jay As I mentioned on another thread, the Men of Yorktown March is likely taken from the Lockhart album, just to make last the whole radio show the two usual hours instead of the somewhat shortened concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Does anybody plan on recording the FM broadcast or WCRB stream? I would really love to have Overture to the Oscars as part of my Apple library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamsStarShip2282 308 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, JohnnyD said: Does anybody plan on recording the FM broadcast or WCRB stream? I would really love to have Overture to the Oscars as part of my Apple library. Yeah I completely spaced and forgot to hit record when it started. Since its mostly definitely not allowed to record it...uh.... if somebody could not DM me totally not in regards to a recording of the concert, I'd sure be real appreciative. Much obliged! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,044 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Listening live now. It's always cool when a perfect recording of a concert I attended gets released Well the Overture sounds even more wonderful now that I can hear it properly again. The Pops played this really well! The announcer explained that it was the world premiere of the new piece "that captures the elegance and excitement of one of Hollywood's grandest traditions" Will and WilliamsStarShip2282 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post igger6 889 Posted August 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2021 Looks like we found track 1 for Lockhart's Lights! Camera! 2sic! Tom, Jay, Falstaft and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,612 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 hours ago, igger6 said: Looks like we found track 1 for Lockhart's Lights! Camera! 2sic! Oh yeah. The last track, though, must be the Esplanade Overture! Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 889 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tom said: Oh yeah. The last track, though, must be the Esplanade Overture! Haha, it'll be a nice pick-me-up after the main title from The Secret Ways. Smeltington and Tom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,612 Posted August 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2021 To the piece itself, it has an Arts and Sports Vibe, which, funnily enough was Miguel's prediction for what the piece might be way back when (well, a couple weeks ago). There are two moments where it feels like it might break out into the Rose's theme version found in The Fathiers. But the main melody has a nice 80's News ring to it, while also unique. I found the Jupiter strings borderline distracting--it feels like a direct lift and will likely serve to fuel the "Williams rips off Holst" crowd. I would be happy if Williams cites it as inspiration in an official piece notes, if there ever be such a thing. Will, Falstaft and Miguel Andrade 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 The more I've listened to it, the more I've loved the ending to this piece (the final 30 seconds or so). Such exciting energy. igger6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Know 325 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Late to the party. What a gorgeous piece! I wonder if it will be performed this weekend at the Hollywood Bowl. I have tickets but don’t believe the program has been listed yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,044 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Spoiler It will be Will and Dr. Know 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,457 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I listened to the piece, it's definitely a John Williams composition. With all the... ti di di di... and the TA TA TA TAAAAAMM. Very good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,612 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Here is another piece (the Winton Flyer section) I get some vibes from for the new piece: Will and TheUlyssesian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,612 Posted August 31, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 31, 2021 Jay, crumbs, Will and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 889 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Just listened to it again on @Tom's post. What a fantastic piece. Sheesh. Write stuff forever. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,044 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 It would be nice to hear in the Academy Museum somewhere https://www.academymuseum.org/en/ Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,457 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Don't say sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Man, nobody really does those sweeping string lines quite like Johnny. They just whisk you away on a blanket of warmth. Will and Dr. Know 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,616 Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 Somehow i missed this thread .Happy to hear a new Williams celebratory piece and I loved it instantly. This is my favorite kind of Williams piece. It does have a Galaxy's Edge feel to it. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Tom 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,612 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Slower than the premiere, but good. I prefer the faster pace. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,612 Posted March 4, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2022 Just gave this piece a fresh listen (Tanglewood performance) after several months. It is a special little piece--a nice hybrid of 80's and contemporary Williams, much like the aforementioned Galaxy's Edge. Way more class than any of the recent Oscar ceremonies deserve--like Williams reminding the audience of what he remembers from his younger days. Will, WilliamsStarShip2282, Cerebral Cortex and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 The more I listen to it, the more this wonderful piece reminds me of two brilliant William Walton works, Johannesburg Festival Overture and Scapino Comedy Overture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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