Richard Penna 3,688 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 The opening cue sounds like exactly what it is - someone trying to emulate Davis' sound, but it goes between stylistic quotes (with the brass) and fairly generic original material. Why on god's green earth didn't they just bring back Davis (assuming he would be up for it). They clearly wanted his sound. Yavar Moradi and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 I’ll wait until the CD, but they might need to leave out some Davis or Davis-esque material due to Academy rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Given the reputation Cloud Atlas's score has, I'm ready to blame WB for this sounding like more standard modern blockbuster fare outside of the Davis bits, since I would think Klimek and Tykwer could be capable enough to make something more compelling. Not to mention scores like Jupiter Ascending showing the Wachowskis certainly allow for more expressive ventures still sound wise, so this is just coming off like heavy studio notes were adhered to based on some of the reactions here. That being said: I probably would still wait for the album, since there's a good likelihood stuff might've been left out. Not even thinking of the rules here, since I know the previous films had cues replaced or dialed out, so that could be a good possibility here. blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van_Etten 111 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 It looks like T&K had no idea how fit into Davis' shoes without copying his music 1:1, so they limited his input to minimum but still for the casual audience to not feel disjointed, added some electronics to it, and the rest 95% is their typical style of composing from Cloud Atlas or Sense8, with some influences from RCP-produced soundtracks. The worst part is now they tried to do more intense action scoring than usual, which was never their strength in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 I don't think it's bad. Generic as hell, passable is how I'd describe it. Does make me miss Davis though. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 I am sure it speaks for the quality of the movie itself. Not terrible, not good, not Matrixy enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 Personally, I judge each on their merits separately. I've known movies that were great but had terrible soundtracks, and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Fair. I mean I could say that about Matrix Revolutions even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 I'm listening to the FYC album now and not liking it at all. I liked the first track yesterday, but that was all Davis. The original stuff is not very exceptional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 The Matrix Resurgence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 The Matrix Regurgitated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 BABYLON BERLIN is terrific. Otherwise, I am completely unfamiliar with every film and score mentioned in this post!😳😗 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0llux 398 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Unfortunately they fall short with this score. Incredibly generic ideas and sounds. There's not much that harkens back to the original trilogy. The organic orchestral sound is gone, just modern day synthetic orchestral sounds. They may as well hire Junkie XL. That said, my expectations were low and this was not surprising. Don Davis set the bar really high and a couple of composers that aren't known for big symphonic works delivered exactly as I predicted in my mind. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ crumbs and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drawgoon 100 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 There is no reason to believe Davis was even going to find the opportunity to deliver something in the same spirit of the trilogy (if not better). Say what you will about the Hobbit scores but even though they brought back Shore for those, I thought the end results had none of the care or enthusiasm he poured into the Rings scores. Sure he delivered his trademark complex writing. But the soul of his work for the Middle Earth was completely gone there. Part of me thinks that had Davis been brought back for this (considering what happened during Speed Racer as well) all he was going to do was "resurrect" pieces from the trilogy and rework them to fit the picture, if not play around with Dark Knight / Inception temp tracks. Actually, I can't quite think of any "resurrected" franchises that managed to dodge this plight. Maybe except the new SW trilogy but then, at this point, Williams is more likely to have the authority to reject others' ideas than the other way around. Edmilson and Evanus 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van_Etten 111 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 As far as I know Lana Wachowski doesn't use temp tracks during editing process. And since Cloud Atlas she even prefers to have the score written mostly based on the first reading of the script, well before shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTenma 116 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 I like this FYC Promo but... I feel a little bit disappointed. Klimek and Tykwer could have done something better... I can't say if I prefer any of the Davi's scores for the previous films, but the style in the score stays too close to Davis. I know it makes sense but these guys shine more with another style, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,448 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 6 hours ago, Drawgoon said: Part of me thinks that had Davis been brought back for this (considering what happened during Speed Racer as well) What happened during Speed Racer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Edmilson said: What happened during Speed Racer? I assume that it's because they chose Michael Giacchino over Don Davis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 7 hours ago, Drawgoon said: Say what you will about the Hobbit scores They suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MedigoScan 324 Posted December 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2021 Nah they're great. Their role in the movie sucks. (First it was the random tracking of old inappropriate music, then it was the maddening scattershot muting of long sequences, then it was the terrible soundmixing burying the music underneath soundeffects) crumbs, Evanus and GerateWohl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,363 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Technically they didn't track in any LOTR recordings - they just had the LPO re-record some LOTR passages almost verbatim with Robert Ziegler conducting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 Fair enough, still pretty questionable. (Then again, I wish I could listen to some of those) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 1 hour ago, MedigoScan said: Nah they're great. Their role in the movie sucks. Haven't seen 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 I recently commented on the Ghostbusters: Afterlife score that it's a successful marriage of classic themes and new material. Well, after listening to this one, I would say this score represents the exact opposite. This is an example of how not to do it. The scant references to Davis' material feel so out-of-place that, aside from the opening title, they really shouldn't have used the material. Maybe the OST will be a different presentation, but I actually suspect that this is the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 It fits inside a soundtrack length already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share Posted December 5, 2021 Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drawgoon 100 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 21 hours ago, Edmilson said: What happened during Speed Racer? FSM's Rejected-Scores nerd said Davis' work was not used. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 6, 2021 Recently watched lotr and the hobbit trilogies and listened to the scores, and musically the hobbit scores are worthy succesors of the originals, bit the latter will always be better, but it happens always with sequel scores. some of the hobbits themes are better imo. Evanus, GerateWohl and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbu 123 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 a new trailer is coming today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Damn the FYC tracks disappeared quickly, is there any way to still listen to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 Nevermind, I figured out how to use ffmpeg to grab .aac files using the website links in the FYC thread. Currently up to TRACK 12, I'm...really enjoying this? I was really worried when Don Davis wasn't coming back but I'm honestly pretty happy with how this sounds, there's a good blend between orchestral chaos and the more digitized 'modern' sound, which I normally hate but for some reason I'm finding works quite well for THE MATRIX. There seems to be a decent amount of variety and energy in the tracks too. This may sound like blasphemy but I listened to this right after listening to THE MATRIX COMPLETE EDITION and I'm already enjoying my listening experience of MATRIX RESURRECTIONS more, so much of the former's score blended together and in some cases was so compositionally complex that it sounded more like sound effects than music. That isn't to say THE MATRIX's score doesn't work magnificently in the film, it's just as a standalone listening experience it really didn't do much for me, whereas I'm finding MATRIX RESURRECTIONS is quite entertaining as a standalone album. Maybe that means it'll be used horribly in the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 On 06/12/2021 at 3:46 AM, Luke Skywalker said: Recently watched lotr and the hobbit trilogies and listened to the scores, and musically the hobbit scores are worthy succesors of the originals, bit the latter will always be better, but it happens always with sequel scores. some of the hobbits themes are better imo. Worthy successors yes. Close to the original trilogy not the slightest. The original trilogy scores are all time greats. The Hobbit scores are 4 stars scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,348 Posted December 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 8, 2021 To you. AUJ is precious to me. GerateWohl, Yavar Moradi and TSMefford 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted December 8, 2021 Author Share Posted December 8, 2021 It sounds like they tried to replicate Davis' piledriver sound at points, but... their use is far too subdued. Davis had those sounds mixed in quite loud, they stood out. This really does come across as a poor person's Matrix score, way more so thaneven Erik Lundborg's Enter the Matrix does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,368 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 It seems a little like Zimmer's Bond score. Generic action queues plus quotes from the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,075 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 When they can't even get the quotes right, it's a lost cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted December 10, 2021 Author Share Posted December 10, 2021 OST has been announced. Looks like the FYC was actually the OST minus the remixes. Quote The “Exomorph Remix” of the theme was made by Johnny Kilmek and Tom Tykwer, the co-composers of The Matrix Resurrections score; the Oscar-nominated duo (huh?) of electronica musician Klimek and Run Lola Run director/composer Tykwer have worked together for over 20 years, dating back to the latter’s 1997 film Winter Sleepers. The multi-suite “Neo and Trinity Theme” opens with an ascending ambient piece before breaking into a full-on rave over the middle third of the track. The theme — which, given its length and track list placement, would fit well in the film’s end credits — closes with a strings section before the electronica beats reemerge to bring the song to its conclusion. In addition to Klimek and Tykwer’s 25-track score, The Matrix Resurrections soundtrack, due out Dec. 17 via Warner Bros/Watertower Music, also features remixes from artists like Marcel Dettmann, Moderna, and Thomas Fehlmann and more DJs who played a pivotal role in the underground music scene centered around the famed Berlin nightclub Berghain. The Matrix Resurrections Soundtrack Track List Opening – The Matrix Resurrections Two and the Same Meeting Trinity It’s in My Mind I Fly or I Fall Set and Setting Into the Train Exit the Pod The Dojo Enter IO Inside IO Escape Broadcast Depth Exiles Factory Fight Bullet Time Recruiting Infiltration I Like Tests I Can’t Be Her Simulatte Brawl Swarm Sky Scrape My Dream Ended Here Neo and Trinity Theme (Johnny Klimek & Tom Tykwer Exomorph Remix) Opening – The Matrix Resurrections (Alessandro Adriani Remix) My Dream Ended Here (Marcel Dettmann Remix) Nosce (Almost Falling Remix) Bullet Time (Moderna Remix) Back to the Matrix (Eclectic Youth Remix) Welcome to the Crib (System 01 Remix) Flowing (Thomas Fehlmann Remix) Temet (Esther Silex & Kotelett Remix) Choice (Psychic Health Remix) Monumental (Gudrun Gut Remix) SOURCE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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