Popular Post Edmilson 5,673 Posted September 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2021 !!!!!! https://deadline.com/2021/09/the-lord-of-the-rings-composer-howard-shore-score-amazon-tv-series-middle-earth-jrr-tolkien-1234839274/ Smaug The Iron, Once, Cerebral Cortex and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 8,621 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Cerebral Cortex and Arpy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 372 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Sweet Jesus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUH 63 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Hard to put into words how much this would mean to me if it comes true. What a gift for fans, I would be beyond ecstatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 610 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 It really is just like Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,346 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 The way we heard it, he's already involved. Bear McCreary is also said to be involved in the scoring process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 5,673 Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 Maybe Shore will just write some themes, with the majority of the score being handled by Bear? It's an interesting combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,346 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Maybe Shore will just write some themes, with the majority of the score being handled by Bear? That was my thinking, yeah. But all we know is both composers are said to be involved. We don't know the capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KK 3,288 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Is McCreary the series composer that you were informed about Chen? Or is there another name you're still sitting on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drawgoon 81 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Would be great to see Shore on board as the sole composer. If Bear McReary is also involved then it could turn out like Powell/Williams' collaboration on Solo: Shore's theme(s), Bear's style. I am fine with that. But I'd prefer for this to be Shore's solo gig - and ideally in the same spirit as the Rings trilogy, and not the Hobbit trilogy. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 33,670 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 343 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Bear is far more experienced scoring for TV, so I think they could compliment each other nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,346 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, KK said: Is McCreary the series composer that you were informed about Chen? Or is there another name you're still sitting on? I'm not sitting on anything else. Well, at least, not in the music department. McCreary's name wasn't supposed to come-out for a couple more hours, but then this news broke out. We don't know any specifics about the capacity in which either composer is working, only that they're seemingly both attached. 6 minutes ago, Drawgoon said: If Bear McReary is also involved then it could turn out like Powell/Williams' collaboration on Solo: Shore's theme(s), Bear's style And some of Shore's colours, too: leitmotives tend to go with certain instrumental colours: The Shire theme with tin whistle, Master of Laketown with Clavichord, Faramir with Pan Flute, Lorien with Nay. Even in Wagner, Valhalla gets the tuben, Notung gets the trumpet, the giants get timpani, etc... If Shore is sketching out themes, he should give some indication as for their "signature" instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 343 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 So, everybody weigh in, do we think it's gonna ge a 100% original score, or can we expect to hear some good ol' themes again? The Ring themes, Elven themes, perhaps earlier takes on the Shire and Gondor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,346 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 The Shire is irrelevant to the timeframe. Based on the premise as far as understand, a lot of the existing themes are perfectly applicable to the scenario: be it a lot of the Sauron and Ring material, some Orc material, certainly a great many Elven themes (especially if they decide to go with the Lorien theme for the younger Galadriel and that sort of thing). I was thinking the "Second Age Gondor theme" from the alternate prologue would make for one hell of a Numenore theme; and the Power of Mordor had already been used to depict Sauron's might in the Second Age in early iterations of the prologue. Both are some of Shore's greatest material, so... But maybe Shore will give Eregion a new theme? Or Gil galad? Who's to tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chen G. 3,346 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 A real stroke of genius would be to use the "Elvish Pledge" motive a lot. Its used for the reveal of the Doors of Durin to signify the alliance of Eregion and Moria, and later to parallel it with the alliance of the Elves and the Rohirrim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,622 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 35 minutes ago, Kühni said: A volcano just erupted in the Canary Islands, you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monoverantus 343 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Perhaps you'll finally get some material from The Prophecy canonised X D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,346 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 That'll take a while though. As far as I can tell, for the first couple of season we'll have Sauron mostly in disguise. Not a lot of opportunities for a lot of overt "bad guy" music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 484 Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 . Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Edmilson 5,673 Posted September 19, 2021 Author Share Posted September 19, 2021 I'd love to see Doug Adams' analysis of the Hobbit themes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Doug Adams 489 Posted September 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: I'd love to see Doug Adams' analysis of the Hobbit themes! Doug Adams would love to show you his analysis of the Hobbit themes! crumbs, mstrox, blondheim and 6 others 3 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 448 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Why get Bear McCreary (a fine composer on his own) involved when Shore is offering his services to the show? Shore has the luxury of spotting each episode, plus writing and recording without a ton of last minute changes like the Hobbit/LOTR films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,288 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Well we don't know in what capacity Shore will be involved. But him writing some themes which be expanded upon by McCreary (or others) sounds like the most likely scenario, a la Williams/Powell and Solo. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,622 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 12 hours ago, Kühni said: I did my undergrad thesis on that very island. I should be booking the next flight there... The photo below from my time there in 2006 is about 5 km to the south of where the eruption is currently taken place. Awesome videos so far. Let's just hope La Palma remains stable and doesn't slide into the Atlantic Ocean, creating a huge tidal wave that will endanger the eastern seaboard of the Americas. @Jay...look out for high ground. It’s curious, to me, La palma always looked like the template they used to create most isla nublar maps in jurassic park merchandise in the 90s… and now “mount sibo” has erupted… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 10,654 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I thought @Lord Zimmer was scoring this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 31 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I thought @Lord Zimmer was scoring this. Shit is rigged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 2,951 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 7 hours ago, KK said: Well we don't know in what capacity Shore will be involved. But him writing some themes which be expanded upon by McCreary (or others) sounds like the most likely scenario, a la Williams/Powell and Solo. I hope it's not this arrangement - it feel that's having two implications; that the series isn't worth Shore's time for him to do the whole thing, and that McCreary doesn't get to compose his own themes. Shore as primary composer with McCreary helping him out where needed would work, and indeed may be necessary if a large quantity of music is needed in a short space. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,346 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 We shall see. We really don't know the details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 959 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 😎 Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,159 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 On 19/09/2021 at 5:06 PM, Chen G. said: A real stroke of genius would be to use the... Even if you do say so yourself! Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,051 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Please let this happen. I just finished a dedicated listen through the Hobbits and we need Howard Shore to do this. There is no more important musical opportunity coming up that I can imagine, other than Williams scoring Spielberg's autobiography. Screw the Avatar sequels, this is what I'm lighting candles for. Evanus and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,346 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 It does seem everything lines-up: Shore had said he's willing to return, Amazon has reportedly came in contact with him. The timing was around the beginning of post-production, with still plenty of time to conclude negotiations and for Shore to research, sketch themes (he doesn't need to wait for cut footage, he can write-off the script) and do whatever actual scoring he had committed to. It is interesting how these serialized leitmotif scores are branching-out: Williams had done Adventures of Han and a theme park, Shore is appearantly doing a TV series, both with the objective of exploring new thematic material within their great construction. blondheim 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,051 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 The Lord of the Rings is the greatest film-music achievement in our lifetimes. I'm not ready for it to be over. JNHFan2000 and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,346 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Sure. We already know Amazon's show is a prequel to the films, not a re-adaptation. So, if Moria looks the same, you'd expect its musical character to also remain similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,483 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 I think it's clear that Shore would care about leitmotivic continuity in new series entries than Williams ever has or would in Star Wars. The obvious reason why is that Shore has great reverence for the works and world of Tolkien, he loves them as great works of literature and mythology. While to Williams, Star Wars will always have the original association of being a silly Flash Gordon update for kids from Spielberg's friend George. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,346 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 I'm sure they both care. The whole idea of these leitmotivic works is in providing new variations and new definitions of old themes and spinning new themes off of old ones. So they both relish in the opportunity to extend the canvas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 33,670 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Is this twitter account anything legitimate, or are they just repeating the rumor from last year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,346 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 They're just retreading what we reported at Fellowship of Fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 33,670 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 33,670 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,346 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 No shit... Edmilson and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 901 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chen G. said: No shit... I bet you the majority of armchair score fans would believe it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,346 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Some of my co-hosts asked that, yeah. Monoverantus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 10,654 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Co-hosts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,346 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 I've been involved with The Fellowship of the Fans for a while now... EDIT: Yes Howard Shore: https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/02/10-burning-questions-about-amazons-the-rings-of-power Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JibberJabberwocky 8 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 For the brevity of that sentence in the article, that's huge news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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