The Book of Boba Fett (Disney+ Series)

[Jay 32,037]

I hope the show is good but I'm more excited for the score I think

 

I hope it gets weekly releases instead of the two-volume approach, but I doubt it will 

[Disco Stu 15,475]

I can't wait for the score too.  I have a feeling that it will be even farther afield from the "traditional" Star Wars sound than Mando, which won't please the ones who dislike Mando for not being Williamsy enough.

[Jay 32,037]

I love the Mando score for what it is.  It wouldn't occur to me at all to be disappointed it doesn't sound like a Williams score.

[May the Force be with You 2,032]

A little Departure of Boba wouldn't hurt though...

By the way I've watched episode 6 and 7 of Mando's season 2 recently and was surprisingly not disturbed by the music

[Disco Stu 15,475]

Nice to see that all the trailers have come from the first half of the first episode!
 

 

[Tallguy 1,835]

The lightbulb just went off for me that we really didn't know anything about what The Mandalorian was really going to be about. Can they pull that off again?

[Jay 32,037]

 

[JNHFan2000 1,570]

https://music.apple.com/nz/album/the-book-of-boba-fett-from-the-book-of-boba-fett-single/1602271490

 

First single for the series.

[Jay 32,037]

 

 

 

[mstrox 5,876]

I thought that was a lot of fun!  More fun than I expected for a show based on Bob Fett.

[Arpy 4,087]

Some of the action in the Mos Espa streets - particularly the parkour stuff was so bad. 

I liked the flashbacks to Boba's past, I hope we can explore some of those moments more, maybe some more kamino?

 

[mstrox 5,876]

The action was very Robert Rodriguez, and I’m guessing if you didn’t like the action style of his episode of The Mandalorian, you’ll dislike this one equally.  I thought the fight showed off the Fennic character really well, and I’m in favor of anything that makes the character of Boba Fett look like he’s not a badass tbh.  Making up for decades of fanboy worship here.

 

I loved the B-movie monster at the end - terrific!

 

Also thought the scene with the mayor’s majordomo was very funny.  
 

Assuming the whole season will have the framing/flashback narrative running through it of what brought Boba to the point we saw him in Mando - leaving with the respect of Tuskens, finding/reviving Fennic, probably tracking the armor to Timothy Oliphant’s Mando character, etc

[Thor 5,961]

Great first episode. Love the fact that they're revisiting locations of the films, and events. My guess it's primarily Filoni pulling the strings on that, not Favreau.

[saulocf 60]

Loved loved the first episode. Even without baby yoda I’d say that this has the potential to be even better than Mandalorian (mainly because of its structure). Very intrigued to where the story might go.

[Bespin 6,997]

No Baby Yoda?

 

Not even a baby Salacious Crumb?

[mstrox 5,876]

This one has Baby Droopy McCool

[GerateWohl 2,840]

2 hours ago, mstrox said:

 

I loved the B-movie monster at the end - terrific!

That looked almost exactly like Poseidon's Ray Harryhausen sea monster from 1981's Clash of the Titans. Wouldn't surprise me, If this was contiously adapted, for whatever reason.

[Bespin 6,997]

I'm curious about seeing Hutts... and how they fight. That could be fun.

 

But, I still have no intention to suscribe to Disney+ again.

[JNHFan2000 1,570]

2 hours ago, Thor said:

Great first episode. Love the fact that they're revisiting locations of the films, and events. My guess it's primarily Filoni pulling the strings on that, not Favreau.

I also loved the episode.

Favreau wrote this episode. So I do think it was mostly him

[GerateWohl 2,840]

I liked the episode surprisingly well, apart from the score and the unnecessary Marvel-like hand to hand combats (apart from lightsaber fights Star Wars needs no martial arts). 

[Positivatee 323]

6 hours ago, mstrox said:

I thought that was a lot of fun!  More fun than I expected for a show based on Bob Fett.

 

[Jurassic Shark 9,776]

His real name is William Fett.

[Tom Guernsey 1,725]

20 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

His real name is William Fett.

Robert Fett, surely? (Don’t call him Shirley, obvs).

[Jurassic Shark 9,776]

That's what they want you to believe.

[Disco Stu 15,475]

I liked episode 1

[Bespin 6,997]

So a first Episode about Fett... on Tatootine... and not single one Hutt?

[mstrox 5,876]

You could hear them slithering just offscreen 

8 hours ago, mstrox said:

Also thought the scene with the mayor’s majordomo was very funny.  

Just found out that this was David Pasquesi, who is probably best known as Selena’s sleazy ex-husband on Veep, but of course we all know him as Stew the Meat Man from Strangers With Candy.  Waiting with bated breath for him and Amy Sedaris’s character to meat up.

[Tom Guernsey 1,725]

Agree it was an enjoyable first episode - the music was quite well spotlighted on occasions too. Can't say I noticed anything that sounded like Solo, but maybe I wasn't listening carefully enough. The updated Cantina Band was a cute nod to the original film. Funny that Ennio Morricone once made some fairly scathing remarks about JW's approach to the original Star Wars movies and now we have these spin off scores which a fairly Morricone inspired at times. I'm not sure that's what Ennio meant!

 

(Minor spoilers) Typically fine production values; the CGI beast near the end looked like something Ray Harryhausen would have conjured up; not sure it quite fitted with the Star Wars universe somehow. It also seemed quite a lot bigger from its claws/arms compared to the full size, but that could just be me.

[Edmilson 4,966]

3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

His real name is William Fett.

It's actually very easy:

 

Robert -> Bob

William -> Bill

Richard -> Dick (😂)

 

And last but not least:

Jason -> Jay

 

[Tom Guernsey 1,725]

6 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

It's actually very easy:

 

Robert -> Bob

William -> Bill

Richard -> Dick (😂)

 

And last but not least:

Jason -> Jay

 

Actually, his name was always written wrongly... It's Robert A. Fett which became Bob A. Fett but due to a typo, is now Boba Fett. I hope that clears it up for everyone.

[Jay 32,037]

 

[DarthDementous 952]

That was a…rough first episode. I can’t quite figure out why the action directing is so clunky, it feels like when someone gets hit that camera frames are being cut out. The staging also has problems, most notable being why Boba Fett and Fennec Shand didn’t have guns at all in that scene - they even had them in the concept art!

 

Seeing some red flags for Fett’s characterisation as well. I was worried that since he’s the protagonist they’d start sanding off his edges and that seems to be the case. Found it very hard to buy Fett would give two shits about the Rodian in the camp, and wouldn’t have just escaped on his own.

[mstrox 5,876]

But are the rough edges things we’ve seen in the movies, or something we’re gleaning from decades of ancillary materials most of which are not canon?  The character of Fett is so slight in the three movies he’s in that pretty much any development is from forty years of headcanon and a bunch of non-canon books.  Onscreen we have “sad about dad,” “guy who likes to disintegrate and wins the Han Solo bounty,” and “guy who accidentally flies into a pit.”

[DarthDementous 952]

7 minutes ago, mstrox said:

But are the rough edges things we’ve seen in the movies, or something we’re gleaning from decades of ancillary materials most of which are not canon?  The character of Fett is so slight in the three movies he’s in that pretty much any development is from forty years of headcanon and a bunch of non-canon books.  Onscreen we have “sad about dad,” “guy who likes to disintegrate and wins the Han Solo bounty,” and “guy who accidentally flies into a pit.”

Even from his limited characterisation in the movies I get zero sense of altruism, and considering how his father acted, that is reinforced even more to me. Taking TCW into account adds yet even more fuel to the fire.

 

More importantly, it’s an opportunity to have a protagonist that isn’t a goodie two shoes for a change. Boba Fett is set up as an antagonist in the films so it can come across as jarring (and harder to believe as the same character) if you make him too sympathetic. I’m fine with playing up the Mandalorian culture side of him, in fact I encourage it because that gave him some much needed depth and motivation in the EU, but don’t throw away the appealing parts of the original character please.

[Disco Stu 15,475]

I’m shocked, SHOCKED that you have nitpicks

[DarthDementous 952]

3 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

I’m shocked, SHOCKED that you have nitpicks

Please do tell me how what I’ve pointed out is a nitpick and not something important to the fabric of the show or something that could make or break the believability of an action scene.

[DarthDementous 952]

Thinking about it a bit, I think the biggest problem this show is going to face is distinguishing itself from The Mandalorian. It's not the only way, but I think the angle of making Boba Fett claw his way to the top of the crime-world with any methods necessary (this time, yes disintegrations) would've been an effective way to do that. Right now he risks crossing too far over into Din Djarin's territory as a character, so you really need to push him in a very different direction to avoid that. It also gives some much needed flavor to this show, I'm starting to worry that all the future Star Wars TV shows are going to feel very same-y, but in this case it's more likely because you've got a near identical creative team to Mando.

The soundtrack works well enough, but especially after Star Wars Visions I'm starting to miss composers taking a crack at a more traditional sound. There's quite a few Japanese composers in that line-up that I would absolutely love to work on more Star Wars projects.

[WampaRat 1,096]

8 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said:

Agree it was an enjoyable first episode - the music was quite well spotlighted on occasions too. Can't say I noticed anything that sounded like Solo, but maybe I wasn't listening carefully enough. The updated Cantina Band was a cute nod to the original film. Funny that Ennio Morricone once made some fairly scathing remarks about JW's approach to the original Star Wars movies and now we have these spin off scores which a fairly Morricone inspired at times. I'm not sure that's what Ennio meant!

 

(Minor spoilers) Typically fine production values; the CGI beast near the end looked like something Ray Harryhausen would have conjured up; not sure it quite fitted with the Star Wars universe somehow. It also seemed quite a lot bigger from its claws/arms compared to the full size, but that could just be me.

Thought the same! It reminded me of the Kraken from the 1981 “Clash of the Titans”

Cool to see Star Wars embracing its goofy B-movie serial inspirations.

 

They sure packed a ton in those 25 minutes. But it always feels over too fast. But it adds to the charm of the show I suppose.
“Tune in next week…”

 

 

[GerateWohl 2,840]

I mean, if you accept that these shows so far, Mando and Boba, are just pure fan service and the simple plot is just a vehicle to trigger the various nostalgia button in fans of the original, it is fine and particularly fun.

 

I really hope, that the Obi Wan series is going to be a little different and will come up with interesting additional story lines.

 

[JNHFan2000 1,570]

33 minutes ago, GerateWohl said:

I really hope, that the Obi Wan series is going to be a little different and will come up with interesting additional story lines.

 

I do think Obi-Wan, Ahsoka, Endor & the other series will be more like that.

I almost feel like Mando & Boba are kind of 'safe' to get people on Star Wars'  side again. Now with the future shows they can take more risks.

[DarthDementous 952]

2 hours ago, GerateWohl said:

I mean, if you accept that these shows so far, Mando and Boba, are just pure fan service and the simple plot is just a vehicle to trigger the various nostalgia button in fans of the original, it is fine and particularly fun.

 

I really hope, that the Obi Wan series is going to be a little different and will come up with interesting additional story lines.

 

That’s really not fine to me, because so far that’s mostly what the Star Wars media offering has been. Hell, it has been a large chunk of blockbusters lately, it has really ceased to be fun to me and just become awfully rote. Mandalorian got huge praise despite this which I suspect has only communicated to Lucasfilm ‘more of exactly this please’ when really Star Wars is in desperate need of new creative visions (for the love of God more Visions please). It’s also in desperate need of better writing, so I don’t like seeing that complacency communicated because now there’s little business incentive to try to achieve that.
 

That’s being somewhat achieved in publication right now, the High Republic era is pretty solid and I look forward to seeing live action content from it, but the TV/movies are sorely lacking in comparison

 

As for Obi Wan being distinct? I wouldn’t hold my breath, and I’m not looking to get into a cycle of ‘maybe the next one will be different’ until a series can actually show that 

[crumbs 12,961]

Meh, thought that was pretty mediocre.

 

And it felt noticeably cheap in a way I never felt with Mando. At no stage did I believe anyone was standing in a real location or a real desert; it all felt like exactly what it was, a bunch of actors in LA surrounded by a fake digital set. Something about the staging was really artificial, almost prequel-esque (where actors couldn't walk more than a few meters in any direction, lest they move too far from the green screen). The parkour chase scene through Mos Espa (or wherever) looked particularly cheap.

 

I really hope Obi-Wan doesn't look like this. Star Wars isn't meant to look pristine, glossy and clean!

[GerateWohl 2,840]

Temuera Morrison is not the youngest anymore and he does not really have the slim body shape of episode 6 Boba Fett and He has to wear an uncomfortable armour. No wonder the fights do not really look very fancy. 

Like already his Mando episode Rodriguez' this one has some kind of amateurish fan film charm. The score pays into that.

[crumbs 12,961]

Yeah I thought the Rodriguez episode of Mando was the worst of the entire series. Resembled a fan film more than a Hollywood production. 

[Luke Skywalker 1,506]

Yeah somehow boba packed a few kilograms while inside the sarlaccc

[rough cut 1,468]

Bad!

 

First episode is total cringe. Bad script, bad acting and bad effects. Bad, bad, bad all around.

 

I’ve seen fan films that held my attention better than this (I actually managed to fall asleep despite watching it in the middle of the day and being a huge OT and Mandalorian fan).

 

I won’t be breaking my neck to catch any further episodes.

[Positivatee 323]

[Disco Stu 15,475]

The flashback stuff was definitely the strongest part of the episode, but I'm certainly interested enough by the "present" storyline in Mos Espa to keep watching.  Also, I loved the design of the monster that comes out of the sand.

[Jay 32,037]

The Book of Boba Fett 1x01 Stranger in a Strange Land

 

Well that was not a very great episode of television.  I absolutely loved the entirety of The Mandalorian, and was kinda shocked by how much of a lesser quality this had compared to that.

 

I thought it was kind of strangely structured, with the majority of the episode being about his life right after the sarlacc pit, but there being a what, maybe 15 minute interlude in the middle of the "present day" stuff, whatever the Mando timeline is called.  The "flashbacks" were definitely the better part, even though by this point we've seen enough of Tattooine, Jawas, Sand People, etc that I yearn for more unique locations (like Mando mostly gave us).  Cantina Latina was really cool though

The "main" timeline stuff, I was just sort of confused and bored by.  Are we supposed to know why he's the new crimelord of Mos Espa, or is that something the flashbacks will eventually end by showing us?  By far the worst-executed portion of the whole episode was when they get ambushed in the streets.  I haven't seen such lazy and poorly done fight staging in a major production like this in a very long time.  The way it started with them surrounded by the guys with shields they shoulda been dead, and for it to go from that to slow, lithless "each bad guy waits for his turn to attack slowly instead of them all attacking at once" was painful to watch.  My wife was in the room while I was watching and even she commented on how poorly this fight was done, and she usually never notices stuff like that.  Sheesh.

Well, I have hope it will get better.

The music was great!

[Holko 8,222]

2 minutes ago, Jay said:

Are we supposed to know why he's the new crimelord of Mos Espa, or is that something the flashbacks will eventually end by showing us?

Bib Fortuna took over from Jabba, and Boba killed him and sat in his throne in the final scene of Mando S2.