The Book of Boba Fett (Disney+ Series)

[Jay 35,467]

Right, but why is this what Boba has decided to do with his life?

[Disco Stu 15,483]

I really can't even imagine being bothered by the stuff I've seen everyone complaining about.  Certainly, relative to the truly bad dreck of like the animated shows or TROS.

[Jay 35,467]

Never seen a single frame of any animated Star Wars thing personally

[Positivatee 326]

The Bob Fett cartoon from The Holiday Special was fun. 

[Jay 35,467]

Woah, apparently Matt Berry (Laszlo from What We Do In the Shadows) was the voice of the robot introducing everyone? I didn't even recognize him!

[Positivatee 326]

I saw his name in the credits and went back to the beginning to find him. I did not pick up on it at first. 

 

Nor did I recognize Jennifer Beals, but whatever. 

 

So Favreau and Filoni Star Wars has now used Richard Ayoade and Matthew Berry of The IT Crowd fame. How excellent. 

[Jay 35,467]

Gotta get Roy in there somehow

[MrJosh 824]

I thought it was a cool touch that the AOTC flashbacks were newly created...or at least we haven't seen that angle or take of young Boba picking up Jango's helmet. I think the shots of Kamino are new too. 

[rough cut 1,653]

So sad when the coolest thing about the whole episode is a five second flashback to a movie that came out 20 years ago. And two of those seconds were of waves!

 

😂

[GerateWohl 3,766]

And still, every time I see young Boba picking up his fathers helmet I expect the head to drop out of it.

[crumbs 13,908]

Yeah those brief AOTC flashbacks were cool! They must have gone back to the original dailies and created new shots of young Boba in the arena. 

 

I'd love to see Kamino revisited, was always one of my favourite prequel planets. And I'm entirely over the desert planets, specifically Tattooine, Jawas and Tusken Raiders! 

[Luke Skywalker 1,702]

Missed opportunity to have used the arrival of kamino music….

[David Story 57]

Mando and Boba sound like a 60's Morricone aesthetic and orchestration over here, with Star Wars-Williams elements at more heroic moments. I think it's what Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni were hoping for since they approved a first draft. It works really well in this corner of the SWU. Excuse if others have recently pointed this out. The catchy sound design effects done with acoustic instruments is wonderful.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,690]

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[DarthDementous 1,018]

5 hours ago, MrJosh said:

I thought it was a cool touch that the AOTC flashbacks were newly created...or at least we haven't seen that angle or take of young Boba picking up Jango's helmet. I think the shots of Kamino are new too. 

Yup, brand new CGI. I compared it to Attack of the Clones and couldn't find any equivalent shots, the big give-away is the look of the ocean. It's a testament to the quality of the original CGI that I actually had to double check, and in some cases at least in terms of the lighting the original is superior.

[crumbs 13,908]

Yeah CGI water has improved leaps and bounds in the last few decades, but AOTC was certainly impressive for its time (and still looks pretty great!) 

[Tallguy 2,568]

10 hours ago, Jay said:

Never seen a single frame of any animated Star Wars thing personally

 

Oh, please fix this. Rebels if nothing else.

[Not Mr. Big 4,544]

I'd leave it unfixed

[saulocf 72]

The last season of Clone Wars (or better yet, the last 4 episodes) are some of the best Star Wars ever. In any medium. It is that good

[Holko 8,993]

[Disco Stu 15,483]

To each their own!  I find TCW incredibly tedious and dull, even the most dramatic scenes seem to play out like the actors and animators were challenging themselves to tell a story with as little flair and interest as possible.

[Not Mr. Big 4,544]

31 minutes ago, Disco Stu said:

To each their own!  I find TCW incredibly tedious and dull, even the most dramatic scenes seem to play out like the actors and animators were challenging themselves to tell a story with as little flair and interest as possible.

I sometimes wonder if my dislike of it is based on the limitations of television 3D animation.  But the writing sucks too, especially the "jokes" (like a terrible, malformed precursor to PrequelMemes)

[saulocf 72]

It does start kind of clumsy, but the last 3 seasons have great material and less jokes. 

2 hours ago, Disco Stu said:

To each their own!  I find TCW incredibly tedious and dull, even the most dramatic scenes seem to play out like the actors and animators were challenging themselves to tell a story with as little flair and interest as possible.

that’s how much the flair is improved in the last seasons

[Disco Stu 15,483]

TCW just isn’t for me, which is fine.  
 

Anyway, I’m no great fan of Robert Rodriguez but his episode of Mando last year was one of my favorites of that season and I honestly cannot see the supposed flaws that others do in his action directing.

[Jay 35,467]

It's not like I went into the episode knowing he directed it, or have any specific predujices against his work. 

 

I simply watched the show, and found the street ambush to be laughably executed. I'm surprised you've bothered to type multiple posts defending it. But to each their own of course. 

[mstrox 6,273]

I also had no problems at all with the action, although Rodriguez’s trademarks were clear.

[Not Mr. Big 4,544]

I thought the direction was better than a certain Mandalorian episode

[DarthDementous 1,018]

On 31/12/21 at 5:28 AM, Disco Stu said:

I really can't even imagine being bothered by the stuff I've seen everyone complaining about.  Certainly, relative to the truly bad dreck of like the animated shows or TROS.

Don’t worry, it’s possible to be capable of being disappointed in all three

[DrTenma 116]

... So I'm in the group of people that didn't like it. I found the episode boring and badly done. I'm not a fan of The Mandalorian, but I put the quality of this episode among the worst of the two. Is quite sad for me to see something with the "Star Wars" name and feel so disconnected.

 

I'm glad many people enjoy the path that Favreau and Filoni are taking to the franchise but this is not for me.

[Jay 35,467]

Well I still have faith that the season overall will be good.  Some shows just take more than 1 episode to set everything up.

[Tallguy 2,568]

The only thing I didn't like was: I don't know who this character is. From the trailers I was OK with Boba as a changed man. It was even consistent with who we saw in The Mandalorian. But I'm not getting why this seems to be an honorable and merciful man from the moment he claws his way out of the sarlac.

 

Now of course we're dealing with a character that we've only really seen for about 7 minutes as an adult. We know a little more about his father. We've also seen him as a child in Attack of the Clones and The Clone Wars. So the show runners may be saying "Hey, no matter what the fans think they know we actually have a blank slate." Which might be an interesting choice. Sure he worked for Jabba the Hutt. But so did Han Solo. (And if you don't throw in the Special Edition of Star Wars he doesn't "work" for Jabba the Hutt. He just got paid by him and is still hanging around.)

 

I have to say I haven't been a Boba Fett fan since I actually saw him in The Empire Strikes Back. But I loved every moment that he was in The Mandalorian. After 40 years I'm on the Fett train.

[Jay 35,467]

The season could end up being a cool arc showing how he gets from the TESB/ROTJ bounty hunter who fell in a sarlacc pit, to the old man who shows up in Mando S2.  Fully on board to see that journey and hope its good.

 

I'm less invested in the modern day part, where he takes over Jabba's old business and is just gonna live on Tatooine as a gangster?  They better find a way to make that interesting.

[DrTenma 116]

19 hours ago, Jay said:

Well I still have faith that the season overall will be good.  Some shows just take more than 1 episode to set everything up.

You're absolutely right. For me it has more to do also with my impressions of the Mandalorian Maybe it ends being a great show... But I'm almost sure that it won't be a show that I enjoy.

[JNHFan2000 2,396]

I read somewhere that the series has quite a few suprises in store. The 1st episode was actually very slow burn for what's to come.

[SilverTrumpet 633]

2 hours ago, JNHFan2000 said:

I read somewhere that the series has quite a few suprises in store. The 1st episode was actually very slow burn for what's to come.

 

I'm sure those sources are all completely factual and none of them are astro turfed hype by SEO hungry clickbait websites. 

[JNHFan2000 2,396]

8 minutes ago, SilverTrumpet said:

 

I'm sure those sources are all completely factual and none of them are astro turfed hype by SEO hungry clickbait websites. 

Indeed they are😉😄

[rough cut 1,653]

Let’s hope it takes off and gets better (for those of us who were unconvinced by the season pilot), but was I the only one who had the feeling this was slapped together in a hurry?

[Jay 35,467]

Yes, it did not feel polished to me

[crumbs 13,908]

It was structurally confusing. Either commit to setting it right after ROTJ and focus entirely on the escape from the Sarlaac (and whatever happens next) or focus on the political stuff in Jabba's Palace with the crime lords and whoever.

 

It felt like half of two different episodes smashed together, but neither was particularly interesting in its own right.

[Jay 35,467]

I agree with crumbs

[crumbs 13,908]

Do you think originally it was focused on all the political stuff with Jabba in the palace, and they looked at the script and went, "well this is really dull." So they invented that side plot with the Tusken Raiders (zzzzz) to compensate?

 

Can't say I was on the edge of my seat watching the various aliens walking into Jabba's Throne Room offering "gifts" or whatever. That was incredibly dull.

 

[Jay 35,467]

Nah I think the idea all along was to show both his journey from Sarlacc to Mando S2, and also his journey post-Mando S2

 

I just didn't personally find the final execution of the start of these stories compelling in the first episode, but I never give up on any show after 1 episode.  I'm sure it'll grow on me

 

And the music was awesome!

[rough cut 1,653]

To me, it felt like the the reasoning was that “Oh, Mando is a success, we have to more stuff like this.”

 

And of course Boba is the obvious choice.

 

Then, no one had a clear artistic vision about what to do with the property - except “let’s make this” - and a couple ideas were thrown around.

 

And, as it is when there’s not one solid vision or one good idea (or goal), it gets confusing and you end up using a lot of ideas instead. There’s lack of solid ground making the whole thing feel wobbly and unfocused.

 

But, as said, Disney have the resources to make this great.

[GerateWohl 3,766]

I just have my cynical five minutes.

I remember those news stories where terminally ill people asked Lucasfilm, if they could watch the newest Star Wars episode before they die. Happened still with episode 7 and 8. Something like that will never happen anymore.

Under Disney Star Wars became meaningless in most ways. Just remains a leftover with some culture historical relevance and some kind of nostalgic money making franchise.

 

 

 

[Tallguy 2,568]

At the moment if I was on my deathbed I would rather ask to see the new Star Wars than the new Star Trek.

 

Before the show I had a pretty good guess that there would be flashbacks filling in the gaps between Jedi and Mando. It's a fairly ordinary story structure. Hell, it was Lost's week to week format.

 

BTW Boba blasting his way out of the sarlac was in literally the first Marvel comic set after Return of the Jedi in December of 1983. This wasn't a shocking turn of events.

[SilverTrumpet 633]

Both of you got it wrong. Go big or go home.

 

Ask for Lucas's sequel trilogy story treatments. 

[Mattris 361]

On 04/01/2022 at 10:58 AM, SilverTrumpet said:

Both of you got it wrong. Go big or go home.

 

Ask for Lucas's sequel trilogy story treatments. 

 

Quoted in a 2020 book by Paul Duncan called The Star Wars Archives: 1999-2005, George Lucas presented a summary of events for sequels to his original six Episodes:

 

- Luke Skywalker teamed up with dozens of previously-hidden Jedi to confront (Darth) Maul, his new apprentice, gangsters, and offshoot Stormtroopers.

 

- Leia eventually achieved galactic peace through her governmental work and became the (new) Chosen One.

 

Note that the very existence of these stories runs contrary to Lucas' blunt statement from 2005, "There is no Episode VII."

 

In a book called Star Wars: Fascinating Facts - published just six weeks before The Star Wars Archives: 1999-2005 - Pablo Hidalgo (the current head of the Lucasfilm Story Group) said that in 2012, George Lucas left the company sequel treatments that were very different that those described above.

 

In fact, Hidalgo said these Lucas treatments featured a young, female Jedi hopeful who eventually found a secluded Luke Skywalker. But the Jedi Master had withdrawn into despair... and died in Episode VIII.

[mstrox 6,273]

Turns out Book of Bob Fett is still good.

[Disco Stu 15,483]

The story of Boba joining the Tusken tribe is great, the “present” story continues to be only fine but still intriguing enough to keep me interested.  So yes, I enjoyed episode 2 a lot!
 

Huge mistake to make the hutts CG though.  Bad call.

[Holko 8,993]

Count me in as a fan now!