Popular Post crumbs 14,300 Posted October 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2021 Of the Star Wars sequels, The Last Jedi proved the most faithful to John Williams' intended score, with one major exception: the opening Escape sequence. After Williams recorded the score's first 8 cues, Rian Johnson restructured the entire sequence, forcing deep music edits to match the revised opening. Sadly Williams followed suit on his OST, presenting a heavily truncated suite of these cues in Main Title and Escape. Now, with the aid of sheet music and mockups, I've reconstructed the film's opening sequence, reintegrating deleted footage where available, and restored Williams' complete score to its intended glory. In my opinion, the best continuous stretch of film scoring in the trilogy. Enjoy! Williams' ability to ratchet up musical tension is simply unrivaled, paired with a climactic release to make the hair on your neck stand up. A shame neither the film nor soundtrack presented Williams' complete intended score; this had every potential of being the greatest opening track of any Star Wars soundtrack, period. Alas, the wait continues for expanded releases that showcase the Maestro's complete musical vision. Special shout out to @BrotherSound and another anonymous user for their help! CGCJ, crlbrg, TSMefford and 30 others 18 9 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Cool! Any chance of sending me a PM with the audio track (music only, I mean)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Just finished watching..... tremendous work Watching this, I don't see why Johnson thought he needed to change anything. Not only is the whole sequence paced wonderfully here, the music is all very right for it throughout. Well, maybe it wasn't him, maybe it was Disney execs butting their heads in, who knows. Giftheck and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximumcorran 1 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 this scene is absolutely incredible and the score is perfect. no one else could have done it so well crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Falstaft 2,132 Posted October 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2021 12 hours ago, crumbs said: Williams' ability to ratchet up musical tension is simply unrivaled, paired with a climactic release to make the hair on your neck stand up. A shame neither the film nor soundtrack presented Williams' complete intended score; this had every potential of being the greatest opening track of any Star Wars soundtrack, period. Brilliant work, @crumbs (and @BrotherSound). Hairs on the back of your neck standing up is right -- I got chills and I've seen/listened to this sequence god how many times now. crumbs, Docteur Qui, Cerebral Cortex and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j39m 75 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Thank you so much for sharing. This is phenomenal! This sequence makes wonderful use of the "Resistance" motif. I'm especially pleased to see the time-changing version make an appearance at 05:55; I was so excited to hear it in the OST and gutted when it didn't sound in theaters. 08:29 is another fantastic one that I don't think I've heard anywhere. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuartosur 12 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Exellent work !! many thanks for sharing! crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Escape is easily one if the best action music sequences of the ST. I rate it above The Battle of Crait. Certainly nothing from TROS comes close. Maybe The Falcon sequence from TFA is a close second? crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 THIS IS FANTASTIC crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I'm bummed they didn't keep this, but a bit more bummed that Williams chose to follow the film edit in the OST track. This just flows so much better musically than the final version in the film. crumbs and Manakin Skywalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,436 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 I love it!!!!!!!! Thank you for this! Such great emotional writing toward the end of the scene. One of Williams' biggest challenges must have been to sustain the tension in the music during the "your mom" jokes. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 638 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 7 hours ago, artguy360 said: Escape is easily one if the best action music sequences of the ST. I rate it above The Battle of Crait. Are people really that big fans of Battle of Crait? It always felt like an action version of Reunion from The Rise of Skywalker. Escape is way better, especially the OST version (compared to the film version). The edit was great, by the way. Added back in that amazing rendition of the Resistance theme. I felt a lot more emotionally involved here and Paige's scenes were a lot more impactful. Just that little more time spent with her makes a difference. Gives it all more breathing room. Also, I remember hearing about that opening with Finn. Considering how much the movie shook things up from the formula, it's really not a bad way to open the film. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Datameister 2,037 Posted October 15, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 15, 2021 Thanks for posting your awesome work, @crumbs. Let's hope that anonymous user who did the mockups and music editing eventually finishes their TFA edit, with 5 kajillion versions of that film's first ten minutes! BrotherSound, Manakin Skywalker, Faleel and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,713 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Brilliant work @crumbs!!! That musical sequence is indeed one of the best in the whole trilogy and this video further illustrates that. Williams really knows how to construct a dramatic arc while constantly expertly weaving in and out of the action thematically as we switch to different sides of it. And most of all he understands the dynamics of musical storytelling meaning that he (even though this aspect might be often dictated by the film, director and other demands) miraculously manages to make the music gradually more complex and louder and not have the score blaring on overdrive levels all the time from start to finish. Edmilson and crumbs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragoz350 450 Posted October 15, 2021 Share Posted October 15, 2021 Wow! There was even more unreleased stuff here than I thought. Have these mockups ever been uploaded here on the board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MfL85 36 Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 Wow, this was simply incredible. Thank you so much for restoring the original version. One question: Do you have the score without sound effects and dialogue? crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 This is just the best. Thank you so much Crumbs, for all your work restoring this part of a score that I really love. (And seeing this again, my god how I wished Johnson had done IX as well. But this isn't the right place to discuss that, I know) Taikomochi and crumbs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BrotherSound 2,242 Posted October 17, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2021 Just wanted to add a few notes for the truly nerdy: This version uses the cue Williams wrote for the original opening, 1M2 Finn Wakes Up, but we don’t yet know if it was ever recorded. The deleted scene doesn’t use it, but there’s a couple deleted TFA scenes that definitely had music recorded, but aren’t presented with it. 1M2A is the untitled cue that provides the score for the revised opening. There’s also a 1M2A Fix titled Son of Starry Night with a different version of the music immediately following the crawl, but it wasn’t used and it’s unknown if it was recorded. I don’t know if @crumbs referenced it, but the novelization exactly matches this ordering of events, which must have been what Williams scored before things were shuffled around. The ending is a bit of a mystery. 1M8 We Lose Girl Ace, the final cue here, actually ends with a short note and an overlap indication, with the note that we “cut back to battle” here. Did the battle originally continue even longer? Judging from the spectrograph, the long final note appears to have grafted on for the album, and the film instead uses tracked music here and for the short Snoke scene that follows. What he intended to overlap here, and if it was ever written, is unknown. 1M9 is Revisiting Snoke, and it certainly doesn’t work to overlap those two. There’s a tiny bit of known music missing from the leak, so I guess it’s possible there’s a 1M8A or something that’s missing, but I thought it was odd. Edmilson, ragoz350, Holko and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,384 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Is there any music that was tracked from the opening battle in The Battle of Crait or vice-versa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 Vice versa. Part of the music in the opening sequence is tracked in from the Battle of Crait music. You can see so in the FYC breakdown here The crazy part is they had JW write an insert for the opening that replaced part of the tracked music. I wonder if hat he thought about that request... Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,300 Posted October 18, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 16/10/2021 at 10:40 PM, MfL85 said: Wow, this was simply incredible. Thank you so much for restoring the original version. One question: Do you have the score without sound effects and dialogue? On 15/10/2021 at 1:27 AM, JohnnyD said: Cool! Any chance of sending me a PM with the audio track (music only, I mean)? By popular demand, a music-only version. Enjoy! ragoz350, Cerebral Cortex, MfL85 and 8 others 5 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmarps 217 Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 The score - when presented like this - is absolutely sublime and really ups my estimation of TLJ's music, so thank YOU! And darn directors and their unmusical alterations to their pictures crumbs and Jay 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 17/10/2021 at 5:44 PM, BrotherSound said: This version uses the cue Williams wrote for the original opening, 1M2 Finn Wakes Up, but we don’t yet know if it was ever recorded. The deleted scene doesn’t use it, but there’s a couple deleted TFA scenes that definitely had music recorded, but aren’t presented with it. That is what has confused me about this. I was wondering: what happened to the opening heard on the album and in the film? The pan down to the Resistance ships evacuating; Lieutenant Connix spotting the First Order Star Destroyers coming out of hyperspace? I figured that was missing while everything else is included here. Would it not be more prudent to utilize what was clearly recorded AND used vs. what was not used and may or may not have been recorded? Obviously the revised opening was recorded AND used, since it is both in the film and on the album. Forgive me if I'm a bit confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,372 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 1 hour ago, JohnnyD said: Would it not be more prudent to utilize what was clearly recorded AND used vs. what was not used and may or may not have been recorded? Obviously the revised opening was recorded AND used, since it is both in the film and on the album. I believe you can easily re-insert it properly in the music edit crumbs uploaded. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 2 hours ago, JohnnyD said: That is what has confused me about this. I was wondering: what happened to the opening heard on the album and in the film? The pan down to the Resistance ships evacuating; Lieutenant Connix spotting the First Order Star Destroyers coming out of hyperspace? I figured that was missing while everything else is included here. The final film's opening scenes with Connix, etc. was reshoot material. Those scenes didn't exist in the first cut JW scored. The revised opening cue (heard in the final film) is 1M2A, which bridges the end of 1M1 to partway through 1M3, meaning the entirety of 1M2 (and the first section of 1M3) went unused. There's debate around whether 1M2 was recorded, but clearly the music for deleted footage covered by 1M3 was recorded (because the rest of that cue is retained in the final cut). 2 hours ago, JohnnyD said: Would it not be more prudent to utilize what was clearly recorded AND used vs. what was not used and may or may not have been recorded? Well, no. That would defeat the entire point of this project – showing Williams' original intent and replicating the film's assembly from when he first scored it. Anyone who wants to hear the revised cues/inserts synced to picture can watch the official isolated score, and 1M2A is available clean on the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I see. Thanks for clarifying. Just out of curiosity, when does each cue start and end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, JohnnyD said: I see. Thanks for clarifying. Just out of curiosity, when does each cue start and end? On 17/10/2021 at 9:32 PM, Jay said: You can see so in the FYC breakdown here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,383 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 good work, crumbs. makes me want to give TLJ another listen soon. Haven't listened to it all the way through in a couple years, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jay said: You can see so in the FYC breakdown here I actually meant to ask when each cue starts and ends in this presentation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I know, but you can figure it out based on that list (and the OST list which is linked to in that post) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I need clarification on another thing. I can’t identify the cue, but one section of music occurs after the next in both the film and on the album, while in this presentation the same section occurs before the next. The time stamp in this presentation for the section I’m referring to is 9:35 to 9:48. This presentation represents the sequence as composed and conducted, right? Why is the album sequence different in this section? Does the album presentation somewhat reflect the final picture, hence a restructuring of the sequence? Forgive me if I’m a little confused and need clarification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Because John Williams has been putting things out of chronological order on his albums for 5 decades to enhance the listening experience crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,220 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I knew that, and overall the listening experience is great. In this instance, however, it is a section of an entire cue that is put in different sequential order. I’m just curious. I always thought that was how it was recorded; it certainly sounds that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 32 minutes ago, JohnnyD said: I actually meant to ask when each cue starts and ends in this presentation. I split the MKV file in the top post into chapters, marking where each cue starts and ends. Download the video then play in VLC, you'll be able to see where each cue begins via the chapters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,281 Posted October 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2021 Here's what's inside the OST track "Main Title and Escape" 1 Main Title And Escape (7:26) 0:00-1:25 = Opening 1:26-2:14 = 1M2A [b1-23] 2:15-2:29 = 1M3 Welcome Poe and Hux [b16(partial)-24] 2:29-2:37 = 1M3 Insert David and Goliath [b1-6] 2:38-2:45 = 1M3 Welcome Poe and Hux [b89-end] 2:46-3:18 = 1M4 He's Insane [b5-15/42-end] 3:18-4:35 = 1M5 Resistance Force 4:35-5:01 = 1M6 We Can Do This (b68-84) 5:02-5:41 = 1M7 Fighter Down [b1-5/7-11/22-end] 5:42-end = 1M8 We Lose Girl Ace [b1-17/19-end] Here's what's inside the FYC track "Escape" (which is also what is heard in the film itself) 1 Escape (7:41) 0:00-0:46 = 1M4 He's Insane [b1-38] 0:46-0:52 = 1M3 Welcome Poe and Hux [b1-20/22(partial)] 0:52-1:31= 1M5 Resistance Force [b14-23/25-26/48-53/53-62] 1:31-1:43 = 8M76 To the Target [b13-20] 1:43-1:52 = 1M6 Insert 1:52-2:07 = 8M76 (with Insert 4-6-17) To the Target [b30N-33a/35-42] 2:07-2:21 = 1M6 We Can Do This [bar 18(partial)-26] 2:21-2:29 = 1M5 Resistance Force [bar 42(partial)-47] 2:29-3:01 = 1M6 We Can Do This [bar 37-39/43-59/61/64/67] 3:01-3:13 = 1M5 Resistance Force [b1-13 with edits/27/27-39/41-45/59-60/64] 3:50-4:39 = 1M6 We Can Do This [b68-70/69/71-77/77-78/98-108/108-112/79-84] 4:39-5:30 = 1M7 Fighter Down [b1-2/7-30/32] 5:30-7:04 = 1M8 We Lose Girl Ace [b1-40/42-43] 7:04-7:30 = 9M81 Rescuing Luke [b14-24] 7:30-end = 1M9 Revisiting Snoke [b2-4] Here's what's inside this custom edit that showcases Williams' original intentions 0:00-1:27 = Opening 1:27-2:26 = 1M2 Finn Wakes Up 2:26-5:02 = 1M3 Welcome Poe and Hux 5:02-6:10 = 1M4 He's Insane 6:10-7:40 = 1M5 Resistance Force 7:40-10:28 = 1M6 We Can Do This 10:28-11:32 = 1M7 Fighter Down 11:32-end = 1M8 We Lose Girl Ace Smaug The Iron, Edmilson, ragoz350 and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,384 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 So, the scene that Williams originally scored was 13 minutes long. But then during the editing the filmmakers cut it down to 9-10 minutes (including the opening crawl)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 In this custom edit, from the start of the Main Title to the end of We Lose Girl Ace runs 13:25 In the final film, from the start of the Main Title to the end of the tracked music that replaced the ending of We Lose Girl Ace runs 11:54 So the sequence was shortened by about a minute and a half from the version he initially scored crumbs and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1977 1,743 Posted October 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2021 RJ shortens probably the best sequence in the movie (resulting in a hack of JW's musical intentions) but elects to include: booby green milk alien monster cow nonsense animal rights virtue signalling male lead falls out of bacta tank and spouts liquid while wondering around spaceship purple haired ball gown wearing feminist belittles and emasculates latino male co-lead iconic iris out takes place after random broom boy non-character irrelevant coda ? Holko, Omen II, Edmilson and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bellosh 3,383 Posted October 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 20, 2021 Do us all a favor and don't fill this thread up with these stale as fuck TLJ opinions. Can't speak for crumbs but I'd doubt he'd want his topic and hardwork sidetracked like this. Take it to that dumpster fire of a star wars thread. Courtney Sees Ghosts, Bofur01, heidl and 15 others 6 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtney Sees Ghosts 269 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 I didn't think it was possible for the music in this sequence to be even better than it was in the movie. Nice to hear Poe's Theme 3 times during this. That first reprisal is beautiful. Man, I'd love expanded edition soundtracks for all the Star Wars films. Makes me wonder what else changed with the music editing in this one because it's not as obvious as the Prequels or J.J.'s two films. Least I don't think so. Are there any more edits? I love this. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,281 Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Just now, CourtneyNeedsAW said: Nice to hear Poe's Theme 3 times during this. That first reprisal is beautiful. Yea! My favorite parts of this The Resistance Theme works great here too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravinsky 203 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Apart from the dazzling nature of this breathtaking sequence it's also great to hear the very opening (after the title crawl) as originally intended. To be honest I cannot hear where the mock ups come in and out as the whole reworking is so seamless so fantastic work Crumbs. I've tried to download the music only track into my phone but it's only allowing me to play and not store. Drat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,300 Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 23 minutes ago, stravinsky said: Apart from the dazzling nature of this breathtaking sequence it's also great to hear the very opening (after the title crawl) as originally intended. To be honest I cannot hear where the mock ups come in and out as the whole reworking is so seamless so fantastic work Crumbs. I've tried to download the music only track into my phone but it's only allowing me to play and not store. Drat! Thanks for the nice comments @stravinsky If you'd like to download the FLAC version of the music-only track, open this link then click the download button top-right: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravinsky 203 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, crumbs said: Thanks for the nice comments @stravinsky If you'd like to download the FLAC version of the music-only track, open this link then click the download button top-right: Thankyou very much indeed. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 638 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 3 hours ago, stravinsky said: Apart from the dazzling nature of this breathtaking sequence it's also great to hear the very opening (after the title crawl) as originally intended. To be honest I cannot hear where the mock ups come in and out as the whole reworking is so seamless so fantastic work Crumbs. I've tried to download the music only track into my phone but it's only allowing me to play and not store. Drat! I just started listening to the music only version as I returned to this thread to make a similar point. The album/film version which opens after the crawl with the piccolo solo copied straight from Star Wars was always so confusing to me. At first I thought The Last Jedi was going to be a movie about how history repeats itself, and would try to explain away all the similarities between TFA and Star Wars. So with that I thought I thought TLJ would open with a First Order Destroyer chasing a Resistance ship escaping, framed in the same way as the opening scene of Star Wars to really drive the point home. So now I realize it's just because they changed how the movie opened and needed to shove new music in there and took an arrangement from a previous movie, which a lot of the score did. It's not quite needle dropping, but it happens a few times. Leia Poppins was a great example. It's basically just taken (and re-recorded) from the concert piece of Leia's theme. Even the Luke and Leia scene doesn't have unique orchestration. It was a surprising choice when this was the only one of the three movies that weren't rushed and re-edited 7,000 times before release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Courtney Sees Ghosts 269 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 On 20/10/2021 at 12:11 PM, Jay said: Yea! My favorite parts of this The Resistance Theme works great here too Yeah! I'm so used to the film version of this piece that I forgot about that really cool reprisal of the Resistance during the action when Poe is wrecking stuff. It was included on the album and was so sad that it wasn't in the movie. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,037 Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 7 hours ago, SilverTrumpet said: I just started listening to the music only version as I returned to this thread to make a similar point. The album/film version which opens after the crawl with the piccolo solo copied straight from Star Wars was always so confusing to me. At first I thought The Last Jedi was going to be a movie about how history repeats itself, and would try to explain away all the similarities between TFA and Star Wars. So with that I thought I thought TLJ would open with a First Order Destroyer chasing a Resistance ship escaping, framed in the same way as the opening scene of Star Wars to really drive the point home. So now I realize it's just because they changed how the movie opened and needed to shove new music in there and took an arrangement from a previous movie, which a lot of the score did. It's not quite needle dropping, but it happens a few times. Leia Poppins was a great example. It's basically just taken (and re-recorded) from the concert piece of Leia's theme. Even the Luke and Leia scene doesn't have unique orchestration. It was a surprising choice when this was the only one of the three movies that weren't rushed and re-edited 7,000 times before release. This one had a Williams temp track, and it seems Johnson wanted him to follow it pretty closely in some spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 638 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Datameister said: This one had a Williams temp track, and it seems Johnson wanted him to follow it pretty closely in some spots. Well, not the bash the guy too much because that's not what this thread is about, and I respect that, but isn't the story that RJ temp tracked the whole film with Williams music, shipped it to him, and just told him to do his thing and didn't even meet with him? I always found that so strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,300 Posted October 22, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 22, 2021 26 minutes ago, SilverTrumpet said: isn't the story that RJ temp tracked the whole film with Williams music, shipped it to him, and just told him to do his thing and didn't even meet with him? I always found that so strange. This has been blown out of proportion. Johnson reviewed the entire film in-person with John, once the film was ready for him to start scoring. He recounted the first time they watched the film in this funny anecdote: Holko, Tiburon, j39m and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 638 Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 I swear I didn't get it from a clickbait article or something, which is often the case for these sorts of stories that do get blown out of proportion. I think it was the Soundtracking podcast when he saw a guest but I can't find it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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