Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, Edmilson said: a young, newcomer composer like they did with the MCU shows for Disney+. This really only applies to Loki. Christophe Beck and Henry Jackman are far from young newcomers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,265 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: This really only applies to Loki. Christophe Beck and Henry Jackman are far from young newcomers. Maybe not, but besides Loki there's also Laura Karpman from What If. Either way, if they hire a veteran, I guess it will be at least someone Disney already worked with, like John Debney or Christophe Beck. As much as I'd love a David Arnold score, he is virtually an unknown for Lucasfilm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 Fair or not, but objectively speaking animated shows are considered 2nd class citizens in these universes. Of course you hire cheap composers for those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,275 Posted November 19, 2021 Author Share Posted November 19, 2021 I still think Powell is in the box seat with this one. Just a hunch. I'm probably completely wrong and they'll ask Powell to do the Lando show instead (assuming it's a quasi sequel to Solo). Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, crumbs said: I still think Powell is in the box seat with this one. Just a hunch. I'm probably completely wrong and they'll ask Powell to do the Lando show instead (assuming it's a quasi sequel to Solo). I like your optimistic thinking that he definitely will get a series, just not sure which one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,280 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I was thinking again about who could be writing the score and assuming that it will not be as classical and old fashioned like we all hope and Disney might hire someone they already worked with, I thought that Laura Karpman might be a good choice. She did quite a good job on "What If...?". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,343 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Giacchino, so that ya’ll can have a breakdown over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,043 Posted January 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 11, 2022 I still vote for Joe Kraemer DrTenma, 1977, Docteur Qui and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,854 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Giacchino, so that ya’ll can have a breakdown over it. I'd be okay with him doing Andor, since that's a Rogue One spinoff anyway. I don't see him doing this one though. 1977 and GerateWohl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,423 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 John Williams Joel McNeely (after his terrific work both on Star Wars, Indy and The Orville) John Debney Joe Kraemer John Powell As you see the composer need to have a first name starting with a "J" 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,612 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Jichael Miacchino 1977 and Tydirium 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Jenry Hackman 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,265 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,854 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 39 minutes ago, May the Force be with You said: John Williams I'd give all the money in my wallet and my left nut. But that's never gonna happen. Raiders of the SoundtrArk and badbu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,612 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 how much money do you got in that nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,854 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, mstrox said: how much money do you got in that nut I don't know the exchange rate of semen. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,043 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,457 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Hans Zimmer & co GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbu 123 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 1. Christophe Beck & Michael Paraskevas 2. Michael Giacchino 3. John Debney so excited about that one!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted January 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2022 Reuse JW's old OT scores. badbu, Raiders of the SoundtrArk, GerateWohl and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,280 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Reuse JW's old OT scores. If they asked a smart sound editor to create to create a temp track score from Williams original material and ask any composer to create something alike for the show, they will have a problem. I hardly can imagine, who wouldn't give up on that task. William Ross maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Well, he ghost-wrote the original so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsevilr 4 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Junkie XL 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 Fits the J rule! Manakin Skywalker and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 4 hours ago, itsevilr said: Junkie XL 😂 You jest, but I actually think it's the most interesting suggestion so far. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,265 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 A Star Wars score with constant violent drumming and synth-y power anthems? Not for me, but I guess some people will be pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Edmilson said: A Star Wars score with constant violent drumming and synth-y power anthems? Not for me, but I guess some people will be pleased. Doesn't have to be like that. JXL can do anything. Even beautiful orchestral passages like in BRIMSTONE. But despite the interesting suggestion, I'd rather have him do smaller titles than these big tentpole things. Adore stuff like DISTANCE BETWEEN DREAMS and WHITE LINES, for example. More of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Edmilson said: A Star Wars score with constant violent drumming and synth-y power anthems? Not for me, but I guess some people will be pleased. He could do something innovative, such as remixing an Elvis song... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 4,280 Posted January 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2022 As we saw in The Mandalorian and now can see in BoBF John Williams' music is the heart and soul of Star Wars. Without it giving life and spirit to the action on screen the people in those silly costumes and masks walking and talking through those weird sceneries just look ridiculous. It is easier with the animated series. But live action requires some more magic. No visual effects can compensate that. At least currently it looks like that. Even though I must admit Solo and Rogue One worked quite well with their scores. But there the composers obviously understood what makes a Star Wars score a Star Wars score. Tydirium, Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Brando and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 444 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 19/11/2021 at 5:26 AM, Edmilson said: We may dream about Joe Kraemer, Don Davis, David Arnold, Joel McNeely, etc., but it's more probable Disney will hire a young, newcomer composer like they did with the MCU shows for Disney+. I hope so. The industry needs to build up a new generation of composers rather than names like Don Davis and David Arnold. Anne-Kathrin Dern especially should get a hard look. JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,892 Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 If relatively a new voice in the industry would be doing Obi-Wan or another Star Wars score then my picks would be: Anne-Kathrin Dern Mathieau Lamboley Carlos Rafael Rivera Christopher Willis And I would love it if Roque Banos or Fernando Velazquez get a chance like that. And I would love for Powell to do another Star Wars score. And a list of composers who I think might be great as well: Christophe Beck, Bear McCreary, John Debney, Pinar Toprak, Laura Karpman, Joe Kraemer, Daniel Pemberton, Natalie Holt & James Newton Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAvengerButton 175 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 For the fellow composers on here, if given the shot how would YOU personally compose the show if given the chance? I know companies are into fresh ideas for these types of things, so I don't think a more traditional score is going to cut it, though I'd be surprised. What I would do if I was allowed would be to take samples from the John Williams scores, and I mean samples in the Daft Punk sense, and sort of do a "remix" soundtrack. One could stretch those sounds into drones, or one could literally do a Daft Punk-esque mash up throwing several different samples together, giving it a kind of early LucasArts Star Wars score feel. That way you could have traditional elements, but also have it be some kind of transformative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,621 Posted January 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2022 I feel like a traditional approach is the best way to handle this. Maybe somewhat scaled back depending on the story but still largely orchestral thematic writing. Cerebral Cortex, crumbs and Manakin Skywalker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,275 Posted January 24, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2022 I feel like it made sense to go in a fresh musical direction for shows like Mandalorian, because we're seeing a new character and there's no established musical framework. Very different with Obi-Wan Kenobi. Williams scored him in six different films so there's an established musical identity (even though his theme technically morphed into the Force Theme). Not sure I want to hear the Force Theme re-interpolated with modern, new-age sensibilities. It's stately and elegant, encapsulating the mysticism of the Jedi. There's great musical potential exploring that theme during the darkest timeline, where Jedi are being hunted down and eradicated. Cerebral Cortex, Falstaft, Holko and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,854 Posted January 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2022 ^Completely agree with Crumbs. The more "modern" approach works perfectly for The Mandalorian and now The Book of Boba Fett. That same style (or any major difference from the film scores in general) just won't work for this series I imagine. They need a more traditional score for this show, especially now if Vader/Anakin will be in it as well. I'll be extremely disappointed if this series is literally just The Mandalorian but starring Obi-Wan. Edmilson, crumbs, michael_grig and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,275 Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 Yeah I don't think Ludwig is the right choice for this project, but he's been perfect for Mando. That said, he had the good sense to treat the Force Theme with reverence when it finally appeared in Mando... unlike a certain other composer who decided to get "creative" with the theme (and butchered it spectacularly). I also have no idea what direction they're taking with this series, stylistically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,423 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Göransson could perfectly come up with a more traditional approach, I've recently watched the final from Community season 2 where he perfectly well pastiched SW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,385 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I beg to all that is Holy that neither Görannsson nor Giacchino will come near this. But I'm up for pretty much anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,280 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I think, we would be lucky, if we got something like Giacchino's "Rogue One", where the composer at least tried to emulate the Star Wars sound, but I am not that optimistic anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,400 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: I think, we would be lucky, if we got something like Giacchino's "Rogue One", where the composer at least tried to emulate the Star Wars sound, but I am not that optimistic anymore. oh god please no Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,275 Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 31 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: I think, we would be lucky, if we got something like Giacchino's "Rogue One", where the composer at least tried to emulate the Star Wars sound, but I am not that optimistic anymore. The problem with Rogue One isn't that Giacchino was emulating a Star Wars score — it's that he was attempting to emulate a John Williams Star Wars score. Contrast that to Solo, which is a John Powell score through and through, yet retains the spirit of the existing Star Wars scores. It's also a big contrast to the more recent Fallen Kingdom, where Giacchino wrote a Giacchino score in the spirit of the Jurassic Park scores. Perhaps he's grown more confidence in his musical voice? It might seem like splitting hairs but the difference is enormous. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,790 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 If powel didnt had the williams theme, neither williams approved segments, for me the score would be another forgetable powell synth rythms driven score. to me rogue one sounds like a star wars score, even if the usage of williams music is not that good to some. if williams had composed the main theme of rogue one, it would be the best star wars score (ever) not directly written by williams. Evanus and GerateWohl 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,275 Posted January 24, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Luke Skywalker said: If powel didnt had the williams theme, neither williams approved segments, for me the score would be another forgetable powell synth rythms driven score. if williams had composed the main theme of rogue one, it would be the best star wars score (ever) not directly written by williams. Don't really follow your logic here. The worst aspect of Rogue One is Giacchino's attempts at arranging Williams' themes; what difference would it have made if Williams wrote yet another theme, when Giacchino would've butchered it like all the others? I think you're also selling Powell short by calling his music "forgetable synth rhythms driven," when all 3 of his Dragon scores are propulsed by rich melodies and distinctly colourful orchestration. Bayesian, Holko and Evanus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, crypto said: I think you're also selling Powell short by calling his music "forgetable synth rhythms driven," when all 3 of his Dragon scores are propulsed by rich melodies and distinctly colourful orchestration. But you can't deny that many of his scores do include synth elements, and some of us don't always find that successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,790 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 I find the dragon scores overbearing, and completely forgetable. I dont remember the main theme at all. i meant if giacchino had a new williams theme, it would be the main melody of the film, he probably would no have resorting to quote other themes. Anyway williams would have supervised those quotes too. He may even have used the full imperial march because williams would have prefered that instead of another imperialish theme. BTW i dont find giacchino usage of williams themes bad. I think he should have used more of them in the final space battle. Evanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Richard Penna 3,619 Posted January 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2022 That's an astonishingly anti-Powell sentiment from Luke. Solo, HTTYD and CotW are all recent Powell scores with rich orchestra and thematic writing. To call them 'forgetable powell synth rythms' stinks of Williams snobbery. Edmilson, Raiders of the SoundtrArk, crumbs and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: i dont find giacchino usage of williams themes bad. I think he should have used more of them in the final space battle. I don't find MG's use of JW's themes to be bad either, and I believe the general criticism is about how it's used with what's going on on-screen. 1 minute ago, Richard Penna said: Williams snobbery Hey, we're on JWFan.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,619 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: Hey, we're on JWFan.com. Oh I'm fully used to it. I just enjoy calling it out Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 52 minutes ago, crypto said: The problem with Rogue One isn't that Giacchino was emulating a Star Wars score — it's that he was attempting to emulate a John Williams Star Wars score. Contrast that to Solo, which is a John Powell score through and through, yet retains the spirit of the existing Star Wars scores. It's also a big contrast to the more recent Fallen Kingdom, where Giacchino wrote a Giacchino score in the spirit of the Jurassic Park scores. Perhaps he's grown more confidence in his musical voice? It might seem like splitting hairs but the difference is enormous. It's clear, like with the film itself, Giacchino was brought in to write a Star WarsTM score, whereas I got the impression Solo had more freedom in regards to the approach to the score, but with Williams' presence making a difference. I wouldn't think after almost two decades scoring both Pixar and mainstream film scores that his confidence all of a sudden matured with Fallen Kingdom, as opposed to merely having greater clarity to write a score that didn't need to fit some Williams mould. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,956 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 31 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: If powel didnt had the williams theme, neither williams approved segments, for me the score would be another forgetable powell synth rythms driven score. It's the Zimmer germ. He sold his soul to the devis and this is the price he's paying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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