DangerMotif 1,037 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 The album is still alot of fun to listen to. It would be interesting to find out what the split between them was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Any reprisals of previous themes? Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,037 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Haven’t heard anything. The theme released friday is used a lot and some very similar spider man stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 Oh jeez another mediocre score from the Next John Williams. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,346 Posted July 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 hours ago, JoeinAR said: Oh jeez another mediocre score from the Next John Williams. Apparently the next Hans Zimmer now. As a big Rozsa fan, this had me grinning from ear to ear: Joe Brausam, A. A. Ron, Cerebral Cortex and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaaaackified 81 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 5 hours ago, Gibster said: Haven’t heard anything. The theme released friday is used a lot and some very similar spider man stuff Will see the movie later today, but after listening the album, I have the feeling that MG is using a similar string loop (an intentional nod?) with Doyle's Thor theme to represent Thor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,346 Posted July 6, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2022 "Show Intel" might be my favorite new pun title ~ On the qobuz page, you can open up each track to see which tracks Melumad is credited on https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/thor-love-and-thunder-michael-giacchino/p5pzhwk4l4v2a These are credited to Giacchino only Mama's Got a Brand New Hammer (6:10) Just Desert (2:25) Indigarr with the Diva (1:44) See Jane Thor (1:08) Distressed Out (2:38) Gorr Animals (2:33) The Ax Games (1:21) Thorring to New Heights (0:57) Show Intel (2:52) Saving Face (3:09) Think on Your Defeat (1:41) Bedside Hammer (1:35) Jane Stop This Crazy Thing (2:52) All's Fair in Love and Thor (1:44) Bawl and Jane (1:23) The Kids Are Alright (1:21) The Ballad of Love and Thunder (8:12) These are credited to Giacchino & Melumad The Not Ready for New Asgard Players (1:39) A Gorr Phobia (2:08) Utter Lunarcy (1:24) Temple-itis (1:38) Surely, Temple (1:01) The Power of Thor Propels You (2:01) Foster? I Barely Know Her! (3:06) One Wish to Rule Them All (2:58) These are credited to Melumad only We're Not Emos We're Gods (0:51) The Zeus Fanfares (1:26) I Was in the Pool! (2:25) Yavar Moradi, Edmilson, blondheim and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,598 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, Jay said: There are no tracks credited only to Melumad That's probably because she's using Giacchino's themes, but I suspect she otherwise composed those 11 cues on her own. Does Qobuz have An American Pickle with a similar breakdown, by any chance? Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 On that one all tracks are credited to both, except the final suite track that is only credited to Giacchino Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 989 Posted July 6, 2022 Share Posted July 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Jay said: On the qobuz page, you can open up each track to see which tracks Melumad is credited on https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/thor-love-and-thunder-michael-giacchino/p5pzhwk4l4v2a There are no tracks credited only to Melumad That's strange, because Spotify tells me that three of them are actually Nami solo: The Not Ready For New Asgard Players [MG/NM] A Gorr Phobia [MG/NM] We're Not Emos We're Gods [NM] The Zeus Fanfares [NM] I Was In The Pool! [NM] Utter Lunarcy [MG/NM] Temple-itis [MG/NM] Surely, Temple [MG/NM] The Power of Thor Propels You [MG/NM] Foster? I Barely Know Her! [MG/NM] One Wish To Rule Them All [MG/NM] Streaming services are starting to confuse me if this and Obi-Wan can't seem to be fully consistent across platforms for composer credits. Jay and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 6, 2022 Author Share Posted July 6, 2022 21 minutes ago, HunterTech said: That's strange, because Spotify tells me that three of them are actually Nami solo: We're Not Emos We're Gods [NM] The Zeus Fanfares [NM] I Was In The Pool! [NM] You're absolutely correct! I was reading the qobuz info wrong - it actually jives with what spotify says. Updated my list above! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Listened today, what a snooze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 The score really fails to make an impression in the movie. The suite that was released as a single is more interesting than anything in the film - and the suite isn't even in the film! There's a neat guitar/rock/metal version of the Marvel logo theme (which I assume isn't on the album), and the most memorable music is the "sad Gorr" stuff ("Just Desert"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Film is about to start. We shall see. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,346 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Share Posted July 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, Anthony said: There's a neat guitar/rock/metal version of the Marvel logo theme (which I assume isn't on the album) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 Can't say the score very prominent in the mix, save for a couple of moments, but it wasn't bad. I really enjoyed the movie too. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,434 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 So, despite being a comedian, Waititi inspired some of Gia's least entertaining scores of his career. I don't think even Giacchino diehards would put Jojo Rabbit among their favorites, and this new Thor, despite having a decent main theme, is overall a little boring. Also, I couldn't hear any similarities with his Spiderman scores, just the usual "Giacchino-isms" that are present in almost any score of his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee 247 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 It has a few fun moments, but this is pretty comfortably my least favourite of the four (Thor) scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Also, I couldn't hear any similarities with his Spiderman scores, just the usual "Giacchino-isms" that are present in almost any score of his. Yeah, I'm not sure what similarities other people claim to hear. This is probably Gia's weakest Marvel effort (and saying that, I don't think much of Far From Home). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,037 Posted July 7, 2022 Share Posted July 7, 2022 The new Theme is used for Thor and Jane. That new theme is great but besides some nice piano arrangements of it there isn’t really anything interesting in the score. The new theme is really great though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted July 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2022 I saw the film. I think there’s the usual Gia trick here. Have an extremely simple theme with very simple progressions, play it often enough and even your grandma will remember it. Does it make it memorable? I am not sure. Is it something I feel compelled to finger on the piano. Not at all. It is “memorable” in the sense I can recognize it when it plays in the movie but does it illicit an iota or reaction from me? No. The theme has no meaning for me. It doesn’t set my heart a flutter. It doesn’t tell me anything about the scene or the moment. It comes on because there ought to be music and scores ought to have themes. It doesn’t represent to me any kind of music excellence. And this coming from a man who once was able to illicit a tsunami of tears from audiences by playing a few notes of his theme on the piano. Why - because that had meaning. I am not saying this needs to be like that but just saying - Gia is capable of wonder and excellence, he just doesn’t seem disposed to it in recent times. Trope, Edmilson, Cerebral Cortex and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drawgoon 100 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 A little disappointing that the Ballad cue at the end of the album wasn't another suite of sorts, but more like a montage. Score is fine. But the Hammer suite is the only cue I will be revisiting again after this, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 A few words on Thor 4 - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 Saw the film yesterday. I think one of the problems of the score is that, as many before it, the main important scenes are tracked by popular songs. The only big scene scored i think is the arrival of thor jane, and it is effective. (I think the idea was to replicate wonder womans arrival on BvsS) The music is not bad, but it is not allowed to develop as in a fully orchestral only film. It is disjointed as some dots are missing. Maybe there is not even much score left unreleased as the film is just under 2 hours, and the digital release is not even 70 minutes…. Tiburon and Max 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saulocf 79 Posted July 10, 2022 Share Posted July 10, 2022 I quite liked the score in the film. I hate that scenes like the flying dolphin lasts for about 20 seconds and doesn’t let the score breath and carry the scene. In the 90s that kind of scene would last 3 minutes and we would have gotten an outstanding cue. The first ship travel scene, Janes appearance and the very first scene were very well score tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 That the theme is used for Thor and Jane at the same time is kind of boring. It's also the least interesting Thor theme so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 I cant get it out of my head though JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted July 12, 2022 Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 hours ago, Brónach said: That the theme is used for Thor and Jane at the same time is kind of boring. It's also the least interesting Thor theme so far. It sounds like it took inspiration from Ragnarok. I saw the film the other day and the score really isn't a big part of the film. Two themes stuck out - the two-part main theme and the theme for Gorr and his daughter. The rest was either underscore or just not prominent enough to be interesting on its own or with the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Weird how Giacchino seems to more or less get a pass from Clemmensen regarding precious themes, but he was all too happy to criticise Elfman’s work on Dr Strange. https://www.filmtracks.com/titles/thor_love_thunder.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,957 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Probably because Elfman talled in length about using Giacchino's theme and then actually not doing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee 247 Posted July 13, 2022 Share Posted July 13, 2022 Clemmensen's review of DS2 disappointed me. It's not that he didn't seem to care for the score, which is obviously fine, but he refused to evaluate it for what it is. He throws out comments about Wanda and Strange's themes fighting as if that's not a really cool thing. He mentions the similarities between Strange's and Wanda's themes as if that wasn't entirely purposeful, and he doesn't mention how Strange's theme links to America's theme or the Illuminati theme. He mistakes Wong's theme for Strange's. He mentions that the Wanda theme dominates the suites when the Strange theme is objectively played more. He doesn't seem to notice the development of Strange's theme at the end of 'An Interesting Question.' It's a weird review from Clemmenson, who I've always relied on to deconstruct dense scores to help me understand them better. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,434 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 MMUK's review: https://moviemusicuk.us/2022/07/15/thor-love-and-thunder-michael-giacchino-and-nami-melumad/ Not only he loved the score but he also left a message for all the Gia bashers on the internet at the end of his essay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 The real defense should be “How can anyone be expected to come up with interesting music for the movies he scores?”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,957 Posted July 15, 2022 Share Posted July 15, 2022 I've been a fan of Giacchino for a long time. I agree with Broxton's comments in his reviews of Giacchino scores this year. I think Giacchino is a great composer and I love all his scores from this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted July 18, 2022 Share Posted July 18, 2022 I watched the movie in theaters the day it came out. It was a fun experience but the movie is a real 6/10. The music was perfectly serviceable, but nothing jumped out at me. I'm only now going back to listen to the soundtrack. I'm looking forward to at least giving the album a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 What a bad movie. We almost turned it off due to the cringe and lack of any sense of urgency. Barely even watchable. It was uneven, unengaging and boring. The score was inoffensive but the GNR “best of”-album they used shamelessly, in what felt like almost every scene, really got on my tits and further helped to fuel any disenjoyment. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,383 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 This reminds me of when Batman Forever / Batman and Robin came out. I hated BF and all my friends told me I was too serious / too much of a Burton fanboy (or whatever the word that was used in 1995). Then BNR came out. And EVERYONE hated it. I was baffled. To me they were nearly indistinguishable. All of the faults of the second were obviously (to me) in the first. I've been saying for years that if Ragnarok wasn't such a good film it would be terrible. What I mean is that it does everything it wants to do perfectly. It's just that it really really hates Thor. I don't hate Thor. That's why I went to go see a Thor movie. So while it's a successful film it's not a very good Thor film. (It does have a couple of my favorite Thor / Loki scenes.) I'm not sure how much Ragnarok influenced Infinity War / Endgame (the production timelines of these films is wild). But they are definitely all "new Thor". When we re-watched all the Thor movies / Avenger movies this summer it was amazing to see that Thor used to be one of the grown-ups in the room. But nahhh, it's funnier when he's stupid. Watching him in Endgame recently I thought "Imagine if every time they brought up Peggy Carter or WWII it landed as a joke?" Because that's pretty much what they do with Thor. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,000 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Batman & Robin is, oddly, a more coherent movie than Batman Forever. Now that one doesn't make any sense whatsoever and jumps between darkness and camp with no sense of direction. At least the fourth movie commits to something fully and story threads go somewhere...as ridiculous as they are. I myself prefer Love and Thunder over Ragnarok for the very same reason. I came for a Taika Waititi movie and that's what I got. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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